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1 Technical Committee on Water Spray Fixed Systems () M E M O R A N D U M DATE: October 2, 2014 TO: FROM: and Alternate Members of the Technical Committee on Water Spray Fixed Systems () Chad Duffy, NFPA Staff Liaison Office: (617) SUBJECT: AGENDA NFPA 15 First Draft Meeting (Annual 2016) Enclosed is the agenda for the First Draft meeting for NFPA 15, Standard for Water Spray Fixed Systems for fire Protection, which will be held at the Holiday Inn Inner Harbor, Baltimore, MD 8:00am to 5:00pm EDT on Thursday November 20, Please submit requests for additional agenda items to the chair at least seven days prior to the meeting, and notify the chair and staff liaison as soon as possible if you plan to introduce any first revisions at the meeting. All NFPA Technical Committee meetings are open to the public. Please contact me for information on attending a meeting as a guest. Read NFPA's Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA Standards (Section ) for further information. Additional Meeting Information: See the Meeting Notice on the Document Information Page ( for meeting location details. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact Elena Carroll, Project Administrator at or by C. Standards Administration Page 1 of 5

2 Technical Committee on Water Spray Fixed Systems () NFPA 15 First Draft Meeting (Annual 2016) Thursday, Nov.20, :00am 5:00pm EDT Holiday Inn Inner Harbor, Baltimore, MD 1. Call to Order 8:00 AM 2. Introductions and Attendance 3. Review Agenda AGENDA Thursday, November 20, NFPA Staff Liaison Presentation and Review of Key Dates in Current Cycle 5. Chairman Comments 6. Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes 7. Act on Public Input for NFPA New business 9. Adjourn Meeting Please submit requests for additional agenda items to the chair at least seven days prior to the meeting. Please notify the chair and staff liaison as soon as possible if you plan to introduce any first revisions or committee input at the meeting. Page 2 of 5

3 Technical Committee on Water Spray Fixed Systems () NFPA 15 First Draft Meeting (Annual 2016) Thursday, Nov.20, :00am 5:00pm EDT Holiday Inn Inner Harbor, Baltimore, MD Key Dates for the Annual 2016 Revision Cycle Proposal Closing Date July 7, 2014 Final Date for First Draft Meeting December 12, 2014 Posting of First Draft and TC Ballot January 30, 2015 Ballots Returned By February 20, 2015 Post Final First Draft March 6, 2015 Comment Closing Date May 15, 2015 Final Date for Second Draft Meeting October 30, 2015 Posting of Second Draft and TC Ballot December11, 2015 Ballots Returned By January 4, 2016 Posting Final Second Draft January 18, 2016 Closing Date for Notice of Intent to Make a Motion (NITMAM) February 19, 2016 Issuance of Consent Document (No NITMAMs) May 13, 2016 NFPA Annual Meeting June 13-16, 2016 Issuance of Document with NITMAM August 4, 2016 Technical Committee deadlines are in bold. Page 3 of 5

4 Technical Committee on Water Spray Fixed Systems () NFPA 15 First Draft Meeting (Annual 2016) Thursday, Nov.20, :00am 5:00pm EDT Holiday Inn Inner Harbor, Baltimore, MD Meeting Preparation Committee members are strongly encouraged to review the published input prior to the meeting and to be prepared to act on each item. Handout materials should be submitted to the chair at least seven days prior to the meeting. Only one posting of the input will be made; it will be arranged in section/order and will be prenumbered. This will be posted to the NFPA Document information pages located at If you have trouble accessing the website please contact Elena Carroll at Mandatory Materials: Last edition of the standard Meeting agenda Public input Committee Officers' Guide (Chairs) Roberts Rules of Order (Chairs; An abbreviated version may be found in the Committee Officer s Guide) Optional Materials: NFPA Annual Directory NFPA Manual of Style Prepared committee input/comments (If applicable) Regulations and Guiding Documents All committee members are expected to behave in accordance with the Guide for the Conduct of Participants in the NFPA Codes and Standards Development Process. All actions during and following the committee meetings will be governed in accordance with the Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA Standards. Failure to comply with these regulations could result in challenges to the standards-making process. A successful challenge on procedural grounds could prevent or delay publication of the document. The style of the document must comply with the Manual of Style for NFPA Technical Committee Documents. Page 4 of 5

5 Technical Committee on Water Spray Fixed Systems () NFPA 15 First Draft Meeting (Annual 2016) Thursday, Nov.20, :00am 5:00pm EDT Holiday Inn Inner Harbor, Baltimore, MD General Procedures for Meetings Use of tape recorders or other means capable of producing verbatim transcriptions of any NFPA Committee Meeting is not permitted. Attendance at all NFPA Committee Meetings is open. All guests must sign in and identify their affiliation. Participation in NFPA Committee Meetings is generally limited to committee members and NFPA staff. Participation by guests is limited to individuals, who have received prior approval from the chair to address the committee on a particular item, or who wish to speak regarding public input or comments that they submitted. The chairman reserves the right to limit the amount of time available for any presentation. No interviews will be allowed in the meeting room at any time, including breaks. All attendees are reminded that formal votes of committee members will be secured by letter ballot. Voting at this meeting is used to establish a sense of agreement, but only the results of the formal letter ballot will determine the official action of the committee. Note to Special Experts: Particular attention is called to Section 3.3(e) of the NFPA Guide for the Conduct of Participants in the NFPA Codes and Standards Development Process in the NFPA Directory. This section requires committee members to declare any interest they may represent, other than their official designation as shown on the committee roster. This typically occurs when a special expert is retained by and represents another interest category on a particular subject. If such a situation exists on a specific issue or issues, the committee member shall declare those interests to the committee and refrain from voting on any action relating to those issues. Smoking is not permitted at NFPA Committee Meetings. Page 5 of 5

6 NEW PROCESS ACTIONS AND MOTIONS Possible Action #1: Resolve PI (no change to section) Action Required Sample motion Make a statement to resolve a PI I move to resolve PI # with the following statement... Possible action #2: Create First Revision (make a change to a section) Action Required Sample motion Step 1 Create a First revision based one or more PIs I move to create a First Revision based on PI # Step 2 If the revision is related to multiple PIs, generate a statement to respond to all of them together Step 1 Create a First Revision I move to create a First Revision as follows... Step 2 Generate a statement (substantiation) Possible Action 3: Create Committee input Step 1 Create proposed revision for solicitation of public comments I move to create CI with a proposed revision to X as follows... Step 2 Generate a statement to explain the intent and why the Committee is seeking public comment

7 Attachment #1: Previous Meeting Minutes

8 TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON WATER SPRAY FIXED SYSTEMS NFPA 15 A11 REPORT ON COMMENTS (ROC) MEETING WEB LIVE TELECONFERENCE November 3, The meeting was called to order by Committee Chair Kerry Bell, at 1:00 PM eastern time, November 3, The Roll was taken. Committee Members present: (P =, A = Alternate, V = Voting Alternate) Kerry M. Bell, Chair, P Robert M. Gagnon, PE, Secretary, P Justin B. Biller, P Ralph E. Bless, P Kevin F. Carrier, P Harvey E. Goranson, P David R. Hague, P Robert A. Loyd, P James M. Maddry, P E. Parks Moore, P Thomas L. Multer, P Roz Nielsen, P Thomas A. Noble, P Larry W. Owen, P Rick R. Schartel, P Jeffrey W. Sutton, P Dennis Taylor, P Samuel Toren, P Karl Wiegand, P Kenneth W. Linder, V Terry L. Victor, A (Voting for Christy Marsolo) Russell P. Fleming, A (Alt. to Karl Wiegand) George E. Laverick, A (Alt. to Kerry M. Bell) Matt Pognant, A (Alt. to David R. Hague) John F. Viola, A (Alt. to E. Parks Moore) Victoria Valentine, Guest Barry Chase, NFPA Liaison 3. Minutes from the ROP meeting of February 3rd, 2010 were reviewed, and there were no objections or corrections. 4. Barry Chase reviewed the 2011 Annual Revision Cycle.

9 5. The report of Task Group on Pipe Stands was presented and addressed. 6. The report of Task Group on Vapor Mitigation was presented and addressed. 7. Public comments were addressed by the committee. 8. Committee comments were addressed by the committee. 9. Old business and new business were addressed. 10. Committee Chair Kerry Bell adjourned the meeting at 3:35 PM EDT. Respectfully submitted, Robert M. Gagnon, PE Committee Secretary

10 Attachment #2: Public Input/15

11 Public Input No. 24-NFPA [ Section No. 2.3 ] 2.3 Other Publications ANSI ASME Publications. of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM

12 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43rd Street, 4th Floor, Society of Mechanical Engineers, Three Park Avenue, New York, NY ANSI/ Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code (BPVC), Section IX, Welding and Brazing Qualifications, ASME B1.20.1, Pipe Threads, General Purpose, ANSI B16 ASME B16.1, Cast Gray Iron Pipe Flanges and Flanged Fittings, ANSI ASME B16.3, Malleable Iron Threaded Fittings Classes 150 and 300, ANSI B16 ASME B16.4, Gray Iron Threaded Fittings Classes 125 and 250, ANSI ASME B16.5, Pipe Flanges and Flanged Fittings, ANSI ASME B16.9, Factory-Made Wrought Steel Buttwelding Fittings, ANSI ASME B16.11, Forged Fittings, Socket-Welding and Threaded, ANSI ASME B16.18, Cast Copper Alloy Solder Joint Pressure Fittings, ANSI ASME B16.22, Wrought Copper and Copper Alloy Solder Joint Pressure Fittings, ANSI ASME B16.25, Buttwelding Ends, 1997

13 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM ANSI ASME B36.10M, Welded and Seamless Wrought Steel Pipe, ANSI ASME B36.19M, Stainless Steel Pipe, ANSI C2, National Electrical Safety Code, ASME Publications. American Society of Mechanical Engineers, Three Park Avenue, New York, NY Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code (BPVC), Section IX, Welding and Brazing Qualifications, ASTM Publications. ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA ASTM A 53/ A 53M, Standard Specification for Pipe, Steel, Black and Hot-Dipped, Zinc-Coated, Welded and Seamless, ASTM A 135/A 135M, Standard Specification for Electric-Resistance-Welded Steel Pipe, ASTM A 182/A 182 M, Standard Specification for Forged or Rolled Alloy-Steel Pipe Flanges, Forged Fittings, and Valves and Parts for High-Temperature Service, ASTM A 234/A 234M, Standard Specification for Piping Fittings of Wrought Carbon Steel and Alloy Steel for Moderate and High Temperature Service, ASTM A 312/A 312M, Standard Specification for Seamless Welded and Heavily Cold Worked Austenitic Stainless Steel Pipes, ASTM A 536, Standard Specification for Ductile Iron Castings, ASTM A 795/A 795M, Standard Specification for Black and Hot-Dipped Zinc-Coated (Galvanized) Welded and Seamless Steel Pipe for Fire Protection Use, ASTM B 75/B 75M, Standard Specification for Seamless Copper Tube, ASTM B 88, Standard Specification for Seamless Copper Water Tube, ASTM B 251, Standard Specification for General Requirements for Wrought Seamless Copper and Copper-Alloy Tube, ASTM D 323, Standard Test Method for Vapor Pressure of Petroleum Products (Reid Method), AWS Publications. American Welding Society, N.W. LeJeune Road, 36 Street, #130, Miami, FL AWS A 5.8M/ A5.8, Specification for Filler Metals for Brazing and Braze Welding, AWS B2.1, Specification for Welding Procedures and Performance Qualification, AWS B2.2/B 2.2M, Standard for Brazing Procedure and Performance Qualification, rd edition IEEE Publications. Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, Three Park Avenue, 17th Floor, New York, NY IEEE /ASTM- SI - 10, American National Standard Practice for Use of the International System of Units (SI): The Modern Metric System, 2002 For Metric Practice, Other Publications. Merriam-Webster s Collegiate Dictionary, 11th edition, Merriam-Webster, Inc., Springfield, MA, 2003.

14 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM Updated edition dates to current editions, change in address for American Welding Society, and elimination of ANSI due to development by ASME and IEEE. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 37-NFPA [Chapter C] Relationship Submitter Full Name: Aaron Adamczyk Organization: [ Not Specified ] Submittal Date: Sat Jun 07 21:45:01 EDT 2014

15 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM Public Input No. 32-NFPA [ Section No ] ASTM Publications. ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA ASTM A 53/A53M, Standard Specification for Pipe, Steel, Black and Hot-Dipped, Zinc-Coated, Welded and Seamless, ASTM A 135/A135M, Standard Specification for Electric-Resistance-Welded Steel Pipe, ASTM A 182/A182M, Standard Specification for Forged or Rolled Alloy-Steel Pipe Flanges, Forged Fittings, and Valves and Parts for High-Temperature Service, A. ASTM A 234/A234M, Standard Specification for Piping Fittings of Wrought Carbon Steel and Alloy Steel for Moderate and High Temperature Service, e1. ASTM A 312/A312M, Standard Specification for Seamless Welded and Heavily Cold Worked Austenitic Stainless Steel Pipes, ASTM A 536, Standard Specification for Ductile Iron Castings, -84( 2009). ASTM A 795/A795M, Standard Specification for Black and Hot-Dipped Zinc-Coated (Galvanized) Welded and Seamless Steel Pipe for Fire Protection Use, ASTM B 75, Standard Specification for Seamless Copper Tube, ASTM B 88, Standard Specification for Seamless Copper Water Tube, ASTM B 251, Standard Specification for General Requirements for Wrought Seamless Copper and Copper-Alloy Tube, ASTM D 323, Standard Test Method for Vapor Pressure of Petroleum Products (Reid Method), (2014). Update to current year dates. Submitter Full Name: Steve Mawn Organization: ASTM International Submittal Date: Wed Jul 02 15:29:01 EDT 2014

16 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM Public Input No. 25-NFPA [ Section No ] 3.3.2* Combustible Liquid. Any liquid that has a closed-cup flash point at or above 100 F (37.8 C), as determined by the appropriate test procedures and apparatus. 4.5 Flammable and combustible liquids The test procedures and apparatus to assess whether a liquid is a flammable or combustible liquid are set forth in Section 4.4 of NFPA 30. Combustible liquids are The Reid vapor pressure shall not exceed an absolute pressure of 40 psi (276 kpa) at 100 F (37.8 C), as determined by ASTM D323, Standard Test Method for Vapor Pressure of Petroleum Products (Reid Method) Flammable and combustible liquids shall be classified according to Section 4.3 of NFPA 30. [ 30, 2012] Definitions cannot contain requirements based on other codes, standards or regulations and the requirements must be in the body of the standard, per the NFPA Manual of Style. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 26-NFPA [Section No ] Relationship Submitter Full Name: Marcelo Hirschler Organization: GBH International Submittal Date: Fri Jun 27 17:45:02 EDT 2014

17 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM Public Input No. 28-NFPA [ Section No ] * Fire Area. For the purpose of this standard, an area that is physically separated from other areas by space, barriers, walls, or other means in order to contain fire within that area. Fire Areas in NFPA 15 are not necessarily meant to contain a fire, but are merely the maximum constraints of a single water spray system. Section , specifically (2) and (5), shows that it is not the intent of this standard to limit a fire to a single fire area * The number of systems expected to operate simultaneously shall be determined by evaluating the following factors: (1)Possible flow of burning liquids between areas before or during operation of the water spray systems (2)Possible flow of hot gases between fire areas that could actuate adjoining systems, thereby increasing demand (3)Flammable gas detection set to automatically actuate systems (4)Manual operation of multiple systems (5)Other factors that would result in operation of systems outside of the primary fire area Submitter Full Name: Roland Asp Organization: National Fire Sprinkler Association Submittal Date: Tue Jul 01 14:49:27 EDT 2014

18 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM Public Input No. 26-NFPA [ Section No ] * Flammable Liquid. Any liquid that has a closed-cup flash point below 100 F (37.8 C), as determined by the appropriate test procedures and apparatus. 4.5 Flammable and combustible liquids The test procedures and apparatus to assess whether a liquid is a flammable or combustible liquid are set forth in Section 4.4 of NFPA 30, and a The Reid vapor pressure that does of flammable or combustible liquids shall not exceed an absolute pressure of 40 psi (276 kpa) at 100 F (37.8 C), as determined by ASTM D 323 D323, Standard Test Method for Vapor Pressure of Petroleum Products (Reid Method) Flammable and combustible liquids are shall be classified according to Section 4.3 of NFPA 30. [ 30, 2012] Definitions cannot contain requirements based on other codes, standards or regulations and the requirements must be in the body of the standard, per the NFPA Manual of Style. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 25-NFPA [Section No ] Relationship Submitter Full Name: Marcelo Hirschler Organization: GBH International Submittal Date: Fri Jun 27 17:55:34 EDT 2014

19 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM Public Input No. 22-NFPA [ New Section after ] Qualified. A competent and capable person or company that has met the requirements and training for a given field acceptable to the AHJ. This suggested revision adds the definition of "qualified" to the standard, and is related to Public Input #21 that adds the term "qualified person" to section 4.3. These two Public Inputs suggest revision to the standard to follow the format of other NFPA standards. This definition was extracted from NFPA 96, section This definition was chosen over the definition of "qualified person" in NFPA 80 because it is simplified, requires acceptance of the AHJ and does not utilize a laundry list more suited for an annex provision. We also suggest petitioning the NFPA Standards Council to consider using one definition for all standards using the term "qualified" or "qualified person" as an Official Definition. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 21-NFPA [Section No. 4.3] Relationship Submitter Full Name: Jim Muir Organization: Building Safety Division, Clark County, Washington Affilliation: NFPA's Building Code Development Committee (BCDC) Submittal Date: Tue May 20 13:39:09 EDT 2014

20 0 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM Public Input No. 9-NFPA [ Section No ] A study shall A hazard risk analysis shall be made of the physical and chemical properties of the materials for which the water spray protection is being considered and a fire risk analysis to determine the advisability of its use. The word study is too vague and provides little direction. Hazard risk analysis and fire risk analysis are both defined NFPA terms and are specific and applicable to this standard. Submitter Full Name: Kelly Nicolello Organization: Western Regional Fire Code Dev Submittal Date: Tue Apr 01 18:48:04 EDT 2014

21 1 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM Public Input No. 21-NFPA [ Section No. 4.3 ] 4.3 * Workmanship. Water spray system design, layout, and installation shall be entrusted to fully experienced and responsible parties only performed by qualified persons. The existing text is not clear. This suggested revision would clarify the intent of the provision and utilize text already used in other NFPA documents. This revision eliminates unenforceable terms such as "entrusted" and "fully experienced." This Public Input is related to another Public Input that would add the definition of "qualified persons" from NFPA 96. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 22-NFPA [New Section after ] Relationship Submitter Full Name: Jim Muir Organization: Building Safety Division, Clark County, Washington Affilliation: NFPA's Building Code Development Committee (BCDC) Submittal Date: Tue May 20 13:29:49 EDT 2014

22 2 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM Public Input No. 10-NFPA [ Section No ] * Where the protected hazard involves the possible release of flammable or combustible liquids, the drainage system shall be designed to safely handle burning liquids, be dedicated to this one purpose and not interconnected to the facility normal drainage system.. Combustible and flammable liquids are not to be allowed into common drain systems without proper water fuel separation or containment sump for environmental and fire protection safety. The way the section is currently written the drainage system only needs to withstand burning liquids. Submitter Full Name: Kelly Nicolello Organization: Western Regional Fire Code Dev Submittal Date: Tue Apr 01 18:49:57 EDT 2014

23 3 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM Public Input No. 17-NFPA [ Section No ] A Open trenches and ditches shall should be routed so as not to expose fire fighters, critical equipment and piping, other important structures, or property of others. How is an AHJ to measure avoidance of exposure of fire fighters? This provision in the standard is not measurable. And the term exposure is not clearly defined. This is appropriate as guidance in the annex, rather than a requirement in the body of the standard. An alternative to this suggestion is to revise the provision to direct flow away from specific areas, which would be measureable. Submitter Full Name: Jim Muir Organization: Building Safety Division, Clark County, Washington Affilliation: NFPA's Building Code Development Committee, (BCDC) Submittal Date: Tue May 20 13:09:04 EDT 2014

24 4 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM Public Input No. 11-NFPA [ Section No ] The water and liquids drained from protected areas shall be collected and, separated and treated as required by local regulations. Adding the word separated adds clarity to the requirement. Submitter Full Name: Kelly Nicolello Organization: Western Regional Fire Code Dev Submittal Date: Tue Apr 01 18:51:04 EDT 2014

25 5 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM Public Input No. 18-NFPA [ New Section after ] Component parts for which a listing is unavailable may be utilized if their required performance individually and within assembly is analyzed and verified by a fire protection engineer or other qualified design professional acceptable to the authority having jurisdiction, provided the unlisted component is also found to be acceptable to the authority having jurisdiction. It appears the standard prohibits unlisted components. This will allow the use of certain unlisted components that would be acceptable otherwise. Submitter Full Name: Jim Muir Organization: Affilliation: Building Safety Division, Clark County, Washington NFPA's Building Code Development Committee (BCDC) Submittal Date: Tue May 20 13:17:36 EDT 2014

26 6 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM Public Input No. 13-NFPA [ Section No ] Connections shall be equipped with approved plugs or caps. Remove section it is repetitive with section Submitter Full Name: Doug Hohbein Organization: Northcentral Fire Code Develop Submittal Date: Tue Apr 22 16:33:47 EDT 2014

27 7 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM Public Input No. 19-NFPA [ Section No ] Where acceptable to the authority having jurisdiction approved, sprinklers shall be permitted to be used in water spray systems and installed in positions other than anticipated by their listing to achieve specific results where special situations require. This Public Input intends to simplify the provision and follow the NFPA Manual of Style. The definition of approved means Acceptable to the authority having jurisdiction. Section of the NFPA Manual of Style states that Existing official definitions contained in the Regulations Governing Committee Projects shall be used where applicable. Submitter Full Name: Jim Muir Organization: Affilliation: Building Safety Division, Clark County, Washington NFPA's Building Code Development Committee (BCDC) Submittal Date: Tue May 20 13:20:30 EDT 2014

28 Public Input No. 23-NFPA [ Section No ] Drain connections shall be sized as shown in Table Table Drain Size Riser or Main Size (in.) Up to 2 Size of Drain Connection (in.) 3 4 or larger 2 1 2, 3, / 4 or larger 4 and larger 2 only 3/4 or larger Note: For SI units, 1 in. = 25.4 mm. The minimum requirments for drain sizes are given in tabel Due to the fact that these systems normally will not be operated or tested under freezing conditions, there is no need to drain the piping within a couple of minutes. Therefore it is my opinion that a drain of 3/4" will be sufficient at all times. Even when there is an incident and the system will be activated at temperatures far below freezing point, a 3/4" drain will be sufficient to drain the piping in a relativly short time. Submitter Full Name: Hans Luijmes Organization: Dept. Industrial Safety of the Regional Firebrigade Rotterdam-Rijnmond Affilliation: Veiligheidsregio Rotterdam-Rijnmond Submittal Date: Tue Jun 03 01:53:55 EDT of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM

29 9 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM Public Input No. 27-NFPA [ Section No ] Subsection shall apply to the control of pool fires resulting from a flammable or combustible liquid spill. Already covered in Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Relationship Public Input No. 12-NFPA [Section No ] another part of Submitter Full Name: Peter Willse Organization: XL Global Asset Protection Ser Submittal Date: Mon Jun 30 09:19:46 EDT 2014

30 0 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM Public Input No. 12-NFPA [ Section No ] The water spray system shall be designed to apply a net rate of not less than 0.30 gpm/ft 2 [12.2 (L/min)/m 2 ] of protected area. Alrerady stated in Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 27-NFPA [Section No ] Relationship Submitter Full Name: Peter Willse Organization: XL Global Asset Protection Ser Submittal Date: Sat Apr 12 12:55:45 EDT 2014

31 1 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM Public Input No. 15-NFPA [ New Section after ] TITLE OF NEW CONTENT Type your content here Nozzles shall be directed toward the wetted surface of the column (see Figure ) * Nozzles shall be spaced not less than 10 ft. on center with each alternate nozzle located on the opposite side of the column. A Nozzles need to be located on opposites sides of the column with every other nozzle on the opposite side. This will result in an arrangement such that the nozzles on one side alone will be 20 ft. apart, but all nozzles will be 10 ft. apart Nozzles shall extend the full length of the column, or until a fire rated barrier is reached. NFPA 15, as currently written, provides little or no guidance on how the nozzles should be positioned or located when used to protect a steel column. This addition will provide that guidance. Submitter Full Name: Jeffery Sutton Organization: Global Risk Consultants Submittal Date: Tue May 06 12:05:47 EDT 2014

32 Public Input No. 34-NFPA [ Sections , ] Sections , Nozzles shall be positioned such that the water spray does not envelop energized bushings or lightning arresters surge protection devices(spd) by direct impingement Direct impingement of water spray on energized bushings and/or lightning arresters surge protection devices(spd) shall be permitted only when authorized by the manufacturer or manufacturer s literature and the owner. Proposal is submitted to clarify the new accepted term of "Surge Protection Device(SPD)". This phrase is consistent with other NFPA documents, as well as UL standards. Submitter Full Name: Mark Morgan Organization: East Coast Lightning Equipment Affilliation: NFPA 780 References Task Group Submittal Date: Sat Jul 05 08:18:45 EDT of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM

33 3 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM Public Input No. 20-NFPA [ Section No ] Deviation from approved plans shall require written permission by the design professional of the revised plans and approval by the authority having jurisdiction. The design professional is responsible for the overall plan. It is important that the design professional agree with changes being made to the plan. A good example is the design change that occurred to the skywalk in Kansas City that collapsed, with devastating effects. In that case, a change was made to the plan that the design professional was unaware. Written permission from the design professional is needed for verification. Submitter Full Name: Jim Muir Organization: Building Safety Division, Clark County, Washington Affilliation: NFPA's Building Code Development Committee (BCDC) Submittal Date: Tue May 20 13:23:34 EDT 2014

34 4 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM Public Input No. 16-NFPA [ New Section after 8.4 ] Water supply information shall be current within 12 months of the plan submittal. Although NFPA 15 currently requires detailed water supply information to be provided on the plans, there is no requirement regarding how current this information needs to be. Water supply information current within 1 year is a common practice and also required by NFPA 13, Submitter Full Name: Jeffery Sutton Organization: Global Risk Consultants Submittal Date: Tue May 06 12:59:49 EDT 2014

35 5 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM Public Input No. 35-NFPA [ Section No ] Pipe friction loss shall be calculated in accordance with the Hazen-Williams formula, using C values as shown in Table , and using the actual internal pipe diameter in the formula. Table Hazen-Williams C Value for Pipe and Tube Pipe or Tube Hazen-Williams C Value Unlined cast or ductile iron 100 Galvanized steel (all) 120 Black Steel (all) 120 Plastic (listed) underground 150 Cement lined cast or ductile iron 140 Copper tube or stainless steel 150 Water filled black steel pipe is permitted by NFPA 15 (see section "Water-filled steel piping shall be permitted to be black steel."). As black steel piping is allowed, the Hazen-C Value for water filled black steel should be included in Table of NFPA 15. This c value (120) was taken from NFPA 13, table Submitter Full Name: Roland Asp Organization: National Fire Sprinkler Association Submittal Date: Mon Jul 07 11:40:08 EDT 2014

36 6 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM Public Input No. 7-NFPA [ New Section after ] Flushing operations shall occur through a strainer, screen, filter or other method to visually ensure piping is clear of debris. Openings in the strainer, screen, filter, or other method shall not be more that 1/8 inches in diameter. Provides prescriptive details with pipe flushing process. Submitter Full Name: Kelly Nicolello Organization: Western Regional Fire Code Dev Submittal Date: Tue Sep 24 19:34:15 EDT 2013

37 Public Input No. 36-NFPA [ Chapter 11 ] Chapter 11 System Inspection, Testing and Maintenance 11.1 General A water spray system installed in accordance with this standard shall be properly inspected, tested, and maintained in accordance with NFPA 25, Standard for the Inspection, Testing, and Maintenance of Water-Based Fire Protection Systems, and NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code, to provide at least the same level of performance and protection as designed The owner shall be responsible for conducting system inspection, testing, and maintenance and maintaining the system in operating condition. NFPA 25 also addresses inspections and testing of fire protection systems. Submitter Full Name: Roland Asp Organization: National Fire Sprinkler Association Submittal Date: Mon Jul 07 11:57:39 EDT of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM

38 Public Input No. 37-NFPA [ Chapter C ] Annex C Informational References C.1 Referenced Publications. The documents or portions thereof listed in this annex are referenced within the informational sections of this standard and are not part of the requirements of this document unless also listed in Chapter 2 for other reasons. C.1.1 NFPA Publications. National Fire Protection Association, 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA NFPA 13, Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems, 2010 edition NFPA 14, Standard for the Installation of Standpipe and Hose Systems, 2010 edition NFPA 24, Standard for the Installation of Private Fire Service Mains and Their Appurtenances, 2010 edition NFPA 30, Flammable and Combustible Liquids Code, 2012 edition NFPA 68, Standard on Explosion Protection by Deflagration Venting, 2007 edition NFPA 69, Standard on Explosion Prevention Systems, 2008 edition NFPA 750, Standard on Water Mist Fire Protection Systems, 2010 edition NFPA 1964, Standard for Spray Nozzles, 2008 edition Fire Protection Guide to Hazardous Materials, 2001 edition C.1.2 Other Publications. C ANSI ASME Publications. American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43rd Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY ANSI/ASME B1.20.1, Pipe Threads, General Purpose, C ASME Publications. American Society of Mechanical Engineers, ASME International, Three Park Avenue, New York, NY ASME B , Pipe Threads, General Purpose (inch), Transactions of the ASME, January 1944, Requirements for relief of pressure in vessels exposed to fire, Venting of tanks exposed to fire, and Heat input to vessels. C ASTM Publications. ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, PO. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA ASTM A 135/A 135M, Standard Specification for Electric-Resistance-Welded Steel Pipe, , reapproved C CSB Publications. U.S. Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board, 2175 K Street NW, Washington, DC CSB Report No I-IL, Vinyl Chloride and Monomer Explosion, March C NIST Publications. National Institute of Standards and Technology, 100 Bureau Drive, Stop 1070, Gaithersburg, MD Mawhinney, J. R. Engineering Criteria for Water Mist Fire Suppression Systems. Presented at Water Mist Fire Suppression Workshop, March 1 2, C National Technical Information Service Publications. National Technical Information Service, 5285 Port Royal 5301 Shawnee Road, Springfield Alexanderia, VA U.S. Department of Defense Standard DOD STD, Ammunition and Explosives Safety Standards. 8 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM

39 9 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM C Other Publications. Rubber Reserve Company Memorandum 123, Protection of Vessels Exposed to Fire. C.2 Informational References. The following documents or portions thereof are listed here as informational resources only. They are not a part of the requirements of this document. Requirements for Relief of Overpressure in Vessels Exposed to Fire, J. J. Duggan, C. H. Gilmour, P. F. Fisher. Rubber Reserve Company Memorandum 89, November 19, 1944, Heat Input to Vessels. Sprinkler Hydraulics and What It s All About, Harold S. Wass, Jr., Society of Fire Protection Engineers, April C.3 References for Extracts in Informational Sections. NFPA 30, Flammable and Combustible Liquids Code, 2012 edition Referenced current editions. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 24-NFPA [Section No. 2.3] Relationship Referenced current editions. Submitter Full Name: Aaron Adamczyk Organization: [ Not Specified ] Submittal Date: Mon Jul 07 21:22:02 EDT 2014

40 0 of 30 7/11/2014 9:00 AM Public Input No. 33-NFPA [ Section No. C ] C ASTM Publications. ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, PO. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA ASTM A 135/A35M, Standard Specification for Electric-Resistance-Welded Steel Pipe, (2014). Update to latest year date. Submitter Full Name: Steve Mawn Organization: ASTM International Submittal Date: Wed Jul 02 15:34:21 EDT 2014

41 Attachment #3: Committee Roster

42 Address List No Phone Water Spray Fixed Systems 10/01/2014 Chad Duffy Kerry M. Bell Chair UL LLC 333 Pfingsten Road Northbrook, IL Alternate: Jeff Hebenstreit RT 4/15/2004 Robert M. Gagnon Secretary Gagnon Engineering 2660 Daisy Road Woodbine, MD SE 7/1/1993 Luis F. Arango XL Global Asset Protection Services Shallow Glen Lane Katy, TX Alternate: Kenneth W. Linder I 08/09/2012 Roland A. Asp National Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc. 40 Jon Barrett Road Patterson, NY National Fire Sprinkler Association Contractor/Installer Alternate: Edward F. Kadlec IM 07/29/2013 Ralph E. Bless, Jr. Telgian Corporation 900 Circle 75 Parkway, Suite 680 Atlanta, GA Alternate: Tracey D. Bellamy SE 10/27/2009 Kevin F. Carrier Miami-Dade Fire Rescue Department Fire Prevention Division Fire Engineering & Water Supply Bureau SW 26th Street, Suite 150 Miami, FL E 7/14/2004 Gary A. Fadorsen Pyrotech International Inc Stony Hill Road PO Box 76 Hinckley, OH IM 7/1/1996 Brian E. Fisher Road Sprinkler Fitters LU Woodside Drive Richmond, IN United Assn. of Journeymen & Apprentices of the Plumbing & Pipe Fitting Industry Alternate: Gregory A. Bartels L 08/09/2012 Harvey E. Goranson UT-Batelle at Oak Ridge National Lab 1 Bethel Valley Road, MS6424 PO Box 2008 Oak Ridge, TN U 1/1/1988 David R. Hague Liberty Mutual Insurance 20 Riverside Road Weston, MA Alternate: Matt Pognant I 3/4/2009 Scott D. Henderson Fireman s Fund Insurance Company 7 Hilltop Farm Road Auburn, MA Alternate: Robert V. Scholes I 7/14/2004 James M. Maddry James M. Maddry, P.E Foxfire Place Martinez, GA SE 1/1/1991 1

43 Address List No Phone Water Spray Fixed Systems 10/01/2014 Chad Duffy Christy J. Marsolo Tyco/SimplexGrinnell Darice Parkway, Suite A Strongville, OH Alternate: Terry L. Victor M 1/1/1992 Randall A. McCune Tri-State Fire Protection, Inc Oak Grove Road Newburgh, IN IM 3/1/2011 David A. Moore, Jr. Glendale Fire Department 30 Village Square Glendale, OH E 10/6/2000 E. Parks Moore S & S Sprinkler Company, LLC PO Box 7453 Mobile, AL American Fire Sprinkler Association Alternate: John F. Viola IM 11/2/2006 David S. Mowrer Consolidated Nuclear Security Y-12 National Security Complex 140 Amanda Drive Oak Ridge, TN U 8/9/2011 Thomas L. Multer Reliable Automatic Sprinkler Company, Inc Smith Grove Road Liberty, SC National Fire Sprinkler Association Manufacturer Alternate: Michael J. Bosma M 1/18/2001 Roz Nielsen BC Hydro 6911 Southpoint Drive Burnaby, BC V3N 4X8 Canada U 10/27/2009 Thomas A. Noble City of Henderson, Building & Fire Safety 240 Water Street PO Box Henderson, NV E 3/21/2006 Larry W. Owen Dooley Tackaberry, Inc West 13th Street PO Box 9700 Deer Park, TX Alternate: Darren Lee Hance IM 10/1/1999 Richard Philbrick Shell Oil Company Shell Technology Center Houston 3333 Highway 6 South Houston, TX American Petroleum Institute Alternate: James A. Masingh U 08/11/2014 Rick R. Schartel PPL Generation, LLC Two North Ninth Street, GEN-PL6 Allentown, PA Edison Electric Institute U 1/1/1987 James R. Streit Los Alamos National Laboratory PO Box 1663, Mail Stop K493 Los Alamos, NM U 7/1/1994 2

44 Address List No Phone Water Spray Fixed Systems 10/01/2014 Chad Duffy Jeffery W. Sutton Global Risk Consultants Corporation 350 Highway 7, Suite 220 Excelsior, MN SE 7/28/2006 Dennis W. Taylor WorleyParsons, Inc. Southwest Office PO Box Houston, TX Alternate: Lawrence H. Cook SE 1/18/2001 Michael J. Wojcik Hughes Associates/RJA Group 668 North 44th Street, Suite 204W Phoenix, AZ Alternate: Jeffrey S. Grove SE 08/11/2014 Jarrett Zuspan State of Alaska Department of Public Safety Division of Fire & Life Safety Spenolove Drive Anchorage, AK E 3/1/2011 Gregory A. Bartels L 08/09/2012 Alternate Sprinkler Fitters LU 669-JATC 7050 Oakland Mills Road, Suite 100 Columbia, MD United Assn. of Journeymen & Apprentices of the Plumbing & Pipe Fitting Industry : Brian E. Fisher Tracey D. Bellamy Alternate Telgian Corporation 900 Circle 75 Parkway, Suite 680 Atlanta, GA : Ralph E. Bless, Jr. SE 10/18/2011 Michael J. Bosma Alternate The Viking Corporation 210 North Industrial Park Road Hastings, MI National Fire Sprinkler Association Manufacturer : Thomas L. Multer M 4/17/2001 Lawrence H. Cook Alternate WorleyParsons, Inc Wheeler Street Houston, TX : Dennis W. Taylor SE 10/29/2012 Jeffrey S. Grove Alternate Hughes Associates/RJA Group 376 East Warm Springs Road, Suite 210 Las Vegas, NV : Michael J. Wojcik SE 11/2/2006 Darren Lee Hance Alternate Dooley Tackaberry, Inc West 13th Street Deer Park, TX : Larry W. Owen IM 10/23/2013 Jeff Hebenstreit Alternate UL LLC 484 Tamarach Drive Edwardsville, IL Underwriters Laboratories Inc. : Kerry M. Bell RT 08/11/2014 Edward F. Kadlec Alternate C. L. Doucette, Inc South Morgan Street Chicago, IL National Fire Sprinkler Association Contractor/Installer : Roland A. Asp IM 08/09/2012 3

45 Address List No Phone Water Spray Fixed Systems 10/01/2014 Chad Duffy Kenneth W. Linder Alternate Swiss Re 2 Waterside Crossing, Suite 200 Windsor, CT : Luis F. Arango I 1/1/1987 James A. Masingh Alternate Chevron Energy Technology Company Safety Technology Unit 3901 Briarpark Drive, BP552 Houston, TX American Petroleum Institute : Richard Philbrick U 08/11/2014 Matt Pognant Alternate Liberty Mutual Property 2725 Ivy Brook Lane Buford, GA : David R. Hague I 8/5/2009 Robert V. Scholes Alternate Fireman's Fund Insurance Company Pacific Highway, Unit 26 Lake Oswego, OR : Scott D. Henderson I 7/14/2004 Terry L. Victor Alternate Tyco/SimplexGrinnell 705 Digital Drive, Suite N Linthicum, MD : Christy J. Marsolo M 1/1/1989 John F. Viola Alternate 10 Chestnut Hill Road South Hadley, MA American Fire Sprinkler Association : E. Parks Moore IM 08/02/2010 Chad Duffy Staff Liaison National Fire Protection Association 1 Batterymarch Park Quincy, MA /18/2011 4

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