Correlating Committee on Automatic Sprinkler Systems

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1 Correlating Committee on Automatic Sprinkler Systems First Draft Meeting December 6-7, 2016 Buena Vista Palace 1900 E. Buena Vista Drive Lake Buena Vista, FL AGENDA day, December 6, Call to Order 8:00 AM (Linder) 2. Introductions of Members and Staff 3. Review and Approval of A2015 Second Draft Meeting Minutes 4. Review of A2018 Revision Cycle and Meeting Schedule 5. Review of Distributed Material and Workload a. Overview of Public Input/FRs b. Overview of Technical Committee Work 6. Technical Committee Chair Reports (order of reports subject to change): a. Technical Committee on Private Water Supply Piping Systems (Wagoner) b. Technical Committee on Hanging and Bracing of Water-Based Fire protection Systems (Biggins) c. Technical Committee on Sprinkler System Installation Criteria (Grill) d. Technical Committee on Sprinkler System Discharge Criteria (Leavitt) e. Technical Committee on Residential Sprinkler Systems (Isman) 7. New Materials a. Discuss Potential Correlating Items from CC Members 8. Reconvene 8:00AM (Time Subject to Change) 9. Adjournment 12:00 PM, December 7, 2016

2 Table of Contents 1. Meeting Agenda 2. Committee List 3. A2015 Second Draft Meeting Minutes 4. A2018 Key Dates 5. Sprinkler Project First Revisions 6. Correlating Issues

3 Correlating Committee Roster

4 Address List No Phone Automatic Sprinkler Systems 11/16/2016 David R. Hague Kenneth W. Linder Chair Swiss Re 2 Waterside Crossing, Suite 200 Windsor, CT I 10/10/1997 Jose R. Baz JRB Associates Group Inc. 555 NE 34th Street Apt Miami, FL NFPA Latin American Section : Donato A. Pirro M 11/14/1997 Kerry M. Bell UL LLC 333 Pfingsten Road Northbrook, IL : Jeff Hebenstreit RT 10/10/1997 Tracey D. Bellamy Telgian Corporation 900 Circle 75 Parkway, Suite 680 Atlanta, GA The Home Depot : Ralph E. Bless, Jr. U 10/29/2012 Russell P. Fleming 40 Jon Barrett Road Patterson, NY : Victoria B. Valentine M 10/10/1997 Scott T. Franson The Viking Corporation 210 North Industrial Park Road Hastings, MI : Scott T. Martorano M 1/18/2001 Michael J. Friedman Friedman Consulting, Inc. 1 Bluestone Road Lutherville, MD SE 3/21/2006 Luke Hilton Liberty Mutual Property Ballantyne Corporate Place, Suite 525 Charlotte, NC : James P. Carroll I 4/16/1999 Alex Hoffman Viking Fire Protection Inc North Fraser Way, Unit 140 Burnaby, BC V5J 5M7 Canada Canadian Automatic Sprinkler Association : Jason W. Ryckman IM 9/30/2004 Roland J. Huggins American Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc Merit Drive, Suite 350 Dallas, TX : Donald D. Becker IM 10/10/1997 Sultan M. Javeri SC Engineering 2 Impasse Du Guernehlie La Trinite, Surzur, France IM 10/10/1997 Charles W. Ketner National Automatic Sprinkler Fitters LU 669 Joint Apprenticeship & Training Committee 7050 Oakland Mills Road Columbia, MD United Assn. of Journeymen & Apprentices of the Plumbing & Pipe Fitting Industry L 1/10/2008 1

5 Address List No Phone Automatic Sprinkler Systems 11/16/2016 David R. Hague Andrew Kim National Research Council of Canada Institute for Research in Construction 1200 Montreal Road, Building M-59 Ottawa, ON K1A 0R6 Canada : Joseph Su RT 10/10/1997 John A. LeBlanc FM Global 1151 Boston-Providence Turnpike PO Box 9102 Norwood, MA : David B. Fuller I 07/29/2013 David O. Lowrey City of Boulder Fire Rescue 3065 Center Green Drive Boulder, CO E 10/29/2012 Brock Mitchell Extended Stay Hotels N Community House Rd Suite 100 Charlotte, NC U 10/29/2012 Garner A. Palenske SE 4/17/2002 Jensen Hughes/AON Fire Protection Engineering Bernardo Plaza Court, Suite 116 San Diego, CA JENSEN HUGHES : Jeffrey E. Harper Douglas Paul Stultz US Department of the Navy NAVFAC MIDLANT, Code CI Maryland Avenue Building Z-140, Room 126 Norfolk, VA : Lawrence Richard Phillips E 3/15/2007 J. Michael Thompson GHD/The Protection Engineering Group, PC Avion Parkway, Suite 150 Chantilly, VA : John G. O'Neill SE 4/17/2002 Adam Seghi Voting Coda Risk Analysis 9624 Vista View Drive Austin, TX I 10/29/2012 Donald D. Becker RJC & Associates, Inc. PO Box 398 Dallas Center, IA American Fire Sprinkler Association : Roland J. Huggins IM 10/10/1997 Ralph E. Bless, Jr. Telgian Corporation 900 Circle 75 Parkway, Suite 680 Atlanta, GA The Home Depot : Tracey D. Bellamy U 10/29/2012 James P. Carroll Liberty Mutual Insurance Java Isle Drive Tampa, FL : Luke Hilton I 08/11/2014 David B. Fuller FM Approvals 743 Reynolds Road West Glocester, RI : John A. LeBlanc I 7/26/2007 2

6 Address List No Phone Automatic Sprinkler Systems 11/16/2016 David R. Hague Jeffrey E. Harper JENSEN HUGHES 210 Salford Drive Algonquin, IL JENSEN HUGHES : Garner A. Palenske SE 08/11/2014 Jeff Hebenstreit UL LLC 484 Tamarach Drive Edwardsville, IL UL LLC : Kerry M. Bell RT 08/11/2014 Scott T. Martorano The Viking Corporation 210 North Industrial Park Road Hastings, MI : Scott T. Franson M 3/1/2011 John G. O'Neill GHD/The Protection Engineering Group, PC Avion Parkway, Suite 150 Chantilly, VA : J. Michael Thompson SE 1/1/1977 Lawrence Richard Phillips US Department of the Navy NAVFAC MIDLANT CI Virginia Avenue Building Z-140, Room 126 Norfolk, VA : Douglas Paul Stultz E 12/08/2015 Donato A. Pirro Electro Sistemas De Panama, S.A. Ave. Ernesto T. Lefevre Parque Lefevre Panama City, Panama NFPA Latin American Section : Jose R. Baz M 11/14/1997 Jason W. Ryckman Canadian Automatic Sprinkler Association 335 Renfrew Drive, Suite 302 Markham, ON L3R 9S9 Canada : Alex Hoffman IM 10/28/2014 Joseph Su National Research Council of Canada 1200 Montreal Road, M-59 Ottawa, ON K1A 0R6 Canada : Andrew Kim RT 10/29/2012 Victoria B. Valentine National Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc. 40 Jon Barrett Road Patterson, NY : Russell P. Fleming M 04/08/2015 James B. Biggins SE 7/28/2006 Nonvoting Member TUV SUD America Inc./Global Risk Consultants Corporation West Barr Road Manhattan, IL TC on Hanging & Bracing of Water-Based Systems Raymond A. Grill SE 12/08/2015 Nonvoting Member Arup 1120 Connecticut Avenue, NW, Suite 1110 Washington, DC TC on Sprinkler System Installation Criteria Kenneth E. Isman Nonvoting Member University of Maryland 7402 Forests Edge Court Laurel, MD TC on Residential Sprinkler Systems SE 12/08/2015 3

7 Address List No Phone Automatic Sprinkler Systems 11/16/2016 David R. Hague William E. Koffel Nonvoting Member Koffel Associates, Inc Centre Park Drive, Suite 200 Columbia, MD Safety to Life Correlating Committee SE 10/10/1997 Russell B. Leavitt Nonvoting Member Telgian Corporation S. 50th Place Phoenix, AZ TC on Sprinkler System Discharge Criteria U 10/28/2008 Maurice M. Pilette Nonvoting Member Mechanical Designs Ltd. 67 Chouteau Avenue Framingham, MA TC on Residential Sprinkler Systems SE 7/28/2006 Kenneth W. Wagoner Nonvoting Member Parsley Consulting Engineers 350 West 9th Avenue, Suite 206 Escondido, CA TC on Private Water Supply Piping Systems SE 03/02/2010 John J. Walsh SE 1/1/1974 Member Emeritus UA Joint Apprenticeship Committee Local Kings Farm Blvd., #302 Rockville, MD United Assn. of Journeymen & Apprentices of the Plumbing & Pipe Fitting Industry David R. Hague Staff Liaison National Fire Protection Assocation 1 Batterymarch Park Quincy, MA /18/2016 4

8 Second Draft Meeting Minutes

9 Correlating Committee on Automatic Sprinkler Systems Second Draft Meeting Minutes November Chicago Marriott Suites O Hare 6155 North River Road Rosemont, IL Tel: (800) Wednesday November 12, The meeting was called to order by CC Chair Ken Linder at 1:00 PM. 2. The TC reviewed and approved the A2015 First Draft Meeting Minutes. 3. NFPA Staff (Matt Klaus) reviewed the regulations governing technical committee meetings and outlined the protocol for making motions for the Second Draft meeting. 4. The Technical Committee heard the following task group reports: 5. The CC heard the following TC Chair Reports: a. AUT-PRI (Wagoner) b. AUT-SSI (Noble) c. AUT-SSD (Leavitt) d. AUT-RSS (Pilette) e. AUT-HBS (Biggins) 6. New Business a. The TC reviewed the recommendations of the AUT-SSD technical committee regarding the need to restructure the document and address the inconsistent redundancies throughout the standard. The Correlating Committee (CC) noted that some of the items noted on the AUT-SSD recommendation list may not address redundancy or organizational issue, and therefore are not under the scope of the CC. These issues would constitute technical changes and should be referred to the appropriate technical committee. The CC voted to establish a task group to prepare a draft of a revised/reorganized NFPA 13 that addresses the concerns addressed by the CC. The draft should be developed with the following concepts/questions in mind: 1. Redundancy that improves the usability of the standard is appropriate. Redundancy that would further confuse an issue or create conflict is not acceptable. 2. Where a general section exists (8.5 or Ch 12) the information presented in these sections should not be repeated throughout the standard. Modifications to these general requirements should be called out in the specific chapters and refer back to the general requirement where applicable. The language does not need to be repeated in every section 3. If some redundancy is acceptable, the structure of the redundancy must be consistent throughout the document. 4. Does NFPA 13 contain the correct flow from chapter to chapter?

10 5. Is there a need to combine, reorder or split certain chapters? 6. Are the chapter titles correct? Is the breakdown of info correct (should the storage chapters be done by sprinkler technology? Commodity? Storage arrangement {rack vs piled})? 7. Are the structures of similar chapters consistent (storage chapters)? The task group roster is as follows: TG Chair Russ Leavitt TG Vice-Chair Mike Friedman TG Members Roland Huggins, Dave Lowrey, Tracey Bellamy, Adam Seghi, Bob Caputo, James Golinveaux, Victoria Valentine, Peter Schwab The task group is charged with preparing a draft and presenting it to the CC for consideration prior to the start of the next revision cycle. b. The correlating committee discussed the need to limit the amount of public input/comments that get reviewed by task groups at the technical committee level. The majority of public input/comments submitted to SSI and SSD were reviewed by tasks groups and some TC members felt like the task group recommendations were rubber stamped by the TC without sufficient technical discussion. The TC chairs were encouraged to be more critical in the assignment of task groups. 7. The meeting was adjourned 11:45 AM.

11 Attendees: s Kenneth Linder, Chair Kerry Bell Tracey Bellamy Russell Fleming Scott Franson Michael Friedman Luke Hilton Alex Hoffman Roland Huggins Sultan Javeri David Lowrey Douglas Stultz J. Michael Thompson s: David Fuller Donato Pirro Adam Seghi Non-Voting: James Biggins Russell Leavitt Maurice Pilette Guests: Victoria Valentine Thomas Zaremba Sebastien Javeri Matthew Klaus, NFPA Staff Liaison

12 A2018 Key Dates

13 Process Stage Comment Stage (Second Draft) 2018 ANNUAL REVISION CYCLE * Public Input Closing Dates may vary according to standards and schedules for Revision Cycles may change. Please check the NFPA Website for the most up to date information on Public Input Closing Dates and schedules at # (i.e. and click on Next Edition tab. Public Input Stage (First Draft) Process Step Dates for TC Dates for TC with CC Public Input Closing Date 6/29/2016 6/29/2016 Final date for TC First Draft Meeting 12/7/2016 9/7/2016 Posting of First Draft and TC Ballot 1/25/ /19/2016 Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot 2/15/ /9/2016 Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot recirc 2/22/ /16/2016 Posting of First Draft for CC Meeting 11/23/2016 Final date for CC First Draft Meeting 1/4/2017 Posting of First Draft and CC Ballot 1/25/2017 Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot 2/15/2017 Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot recirc 2/22/2017 Post First Draft Report for Public Comment 3/1/2017 3/1/2017 Public Comment closing date 5/10/2017 5/10/2017 Notice published on Consent Standards (Standards that receive No Comments). Note: Date varies and determined via TC ballot. Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards (15 Days) (Standards That Received No Comments) Final date for TC Second Draft Meeting 11/8/2017 8/2/2017 Posting of Second Draft and TC Ballot 12/20/2017 9/13/2017 Final date for Receipt of TC Second Draft Ballot 1/10/ /4/2017 Final date for receipt of TC Second Draft ballot recirc 1/17/ /11/2017 Posting of Second Draft for CC Mtg 10/18/2017 Final date for CC Second Draft Meeting 11/29/2017 Posting of Second Draft for CC Ballot 12/20/2017 Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot 1/10/2018 Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot recirc 1/17/2018 Post Second Draft Report for NITMAM Review 1/24/2018 1/24/2018 Tech Session Preparation (& Issuance) Notice of Intent to Make a Motion (NITMAM) Closing Date 2/21/2018 2/21/2018 Posting of Certified Amending Motions (CAMs) and Consent Standards 4/4/2018 4/4/2018 Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards (15 Days after posting) 4/19/2018 4/19/2018 SC Issuance Date for Consent Standards (10 Days) 4/29/2018 4/29/2018 Tech Session Association Meeting for Standards with CAMs 6/4 7/2018 6/4 7/2018 Appeals and Issuance Appeal Closing Date for Standards with CAMs (20 Days after ATM) 6/27/2018 6/27/2018 Council Issuance Date for Standards with CAMs* 8/14/2018 8/14/2018

14 CC Actions

15 NFPA Correlating Committee on Automatic Sprinkler Systems The Correlating Committee (CC) actions that follow are subject to and within the limitations of the Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA Standards (the Regs) at 3.4. Actions shown fall into the category of Correlating Committee Input (CCI), Correlating Note (CN) and First Correlating Revision (FCR). In general terms, the following apply: Correlating Committee Input (CCI) Similar to a Public Input (PI), but is submitted prior to the PI closing date. Not applicable at First Draft (FD) or Second Draft (SD) meetings. (See Regs at ) CCI is not in use at this December 2016 FD meeting. Correlating Note (CN): Clarification to a Technical Committee (TC) to reconsider a Committee Input (CI), PI, or to review a First Revision (FR) or CCI (See Regs at ). CNs are balloted and appear in the FD Report if they pass ballot. First Correlating Revision (FCR) Used to delete or modify FRs or to generate the equivalent of a new FR and must include a Correlating Committee Statement (CCS) to support the change. An FR from the TC that is affected by a FCR converts to a CI. (See Regs at ) FCRs are balloted and appear in the FD Report if they pass ballot. Correlating Committee Statement (CCS) A statement from the CC in support of an FCR.As is true with FRs, an FCR can address only a contiguous block of text. An FCR cannot modify a text block on which an FR exists. The FR must be changed to a CI, and the FCR must show all the changes applicable to the text block.

16 Correlation Issues

17 Artwork Chapter & Figures (a) (c) become Figures (a) (d), (d) = ? Figure (a) becomes Figure (a) Figure (b) becomes Figure (c)? Is there a (b)? ( (A)) Figures (A)(a) thru (A)(j) become Figures (a) thru (e) then listed as: Figure (a) = (A)(b) Figure (b) = (A)(c) Figure (c) = (A)(d) Figure (d) = (A)(e) Figure (e) = (A)(a) ( (A) Figures (A)(a) thru (A)(j) become Figures (a) thru (j) ( (A) Figures (A)(a) thru (A)(j) become Figures (a) thru (j) Same figures in two sections? ( ) Figure (b) = (a) Figure (c) = (b) Figure (d) = (c)

18 Figure (e) = (d) Figure (f) = (e) Is (a) deleted? ( ) Figure (b) = (a) Figure (c) = (b) Figure (a) = (c) using Figure as (d)? ( ) Figure (a) = (a) )? Is (a) & (b) duplicated and used in two separate sections (see Figure (b) = (b) Figure (a) = (a) Figure (b) = (b) or thru (c) Source for (c)?

19 Asterisk shown but no annex material provided. Section Line on Spreadsheet * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 5801

20 NFPA * Concealed spaces formed by ceilings attached to composite wood joist construction either directly or onto metal channels not exceeding 1 in. (25.4 mm) in depth, provided the joist channels are firestopped into volumes each not exceeding 160 ft3 (4.53 m3) using materials equivalent to the web construction and at least 31 2 in. (90 mm) of batt insulation is installed at the bottom of the joist channels when the ceiling is attached utilizing metal channels, shall not require sprinkler protection (4)(j)*Light or ordinary hazard occupancies where noncombustible or limitedcombustible ceilings are attached to the bottom of composite wood joists either directly or on to metal channels not exceeding 1 in. (25.4 mm) in depth, provided the adjacent joist channels are firestopped into volumes not exceeding 160 ft3 (4.5 m3) using materials equivalent to 1 2 in. (12.7 mm) gypsum board and at least 31 2 in. (90 mm) of batt insulation is installed at the bottom of the joist channels when the ceiling is attached utilizing metal channels. Is it the intent to require gypsum in one case but not the other? I have an AHJ who is requiring the installation of gypsum in a concealed space to eliminate sprinklers in the space.