Technical Committee on Private Water Supply Piping Systems

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1 Technical Committee on Private Water Supply Piping Systems M E M O R A N D U M DATE: June 26, 2013 TO: FROM: Principal and Alternate Members of the Technical Committee on Private Water Supply Piping Systems Matt Klaus, Principal Fire Protection Engineer/NFPA Staff Liaison SUBJECT: AUT-PRI AGENDA PACKAGE A2015 Pre-First Draft Meeting Enclosed is the agenda for the Pre-First Draft meeting for NFPA 13, Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems, NFPA 24, Standard for the Installation of Private Fire Service Mains and Their Appurtenances, and NFPA 291 Recommended Practice for Fire Flow Testing and Marking of Hydrants. NFPA 13, 24 and 291 have entered the Annual 2015 revision cycle and will produce 2016 Editions. It is imperative that you review the attached public input in advance, with your ideas and substantiations for your views. If you have alternate suggestions for text changes, please come prepared with the words and respective substantiation. For administrative questions, please feel free to contact Elena Carroll at (617) For technical questions, please feel free to contact Matt Klaus at (617) You can also reach either of us via at ECarroll@nfpa.org or MKlaus@nfpa.org. We look forward to meeting everyone in St, Louis, MO at the St. Louis Union Station - a DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel

2 Table of Contents Part 1 - Meeting Agenda Part 2 - Committee Address List Part 3 New Process Worksheets Part 4 A2012 ROC Meeting Minutes Part 5 - A2015 Key Dates Part 6- PRI Public Input

3 Technical Committee on Private Water Supply Piping Systems Pre-First Draft Meeting July 10-11, 2013 St. Louis Union Station - a DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel 1820 Market St. One Union Station St Louis, Missouri, AGENDA Wednesday, July 10, Call to Order 8:00 AM 2. Introductions of Members and Staff 3. Review and Approval of A2012 ROC Meeting Minutes 4. Review of A2015 Revision Cycle and Meeting Schedule 5. Review of Distributed Material and Workload b. Overview of Public Input c. Overview of Potential Committee First Revisions 6. Review NFPA 24 Rewrite Work To Date 7. Establish Ne Task Groups if Necessary 8. Adjourn 12:00 PM 9. Lunch 12:00 PM 1:00 PM 10. New Process Training and Mock Meeting 1:00 PM 4:00 PM Thursday, July 11, Reconvene for Task Group Meetings 8:00AM 12. Adjourn (TBD)

4 PART 2 COMMITTEE ADDRESS LIST

5 Address List No Phone Private Water Supply Piping Systems Automatic Sprinkler Systems Kenneth W. Wagoner Chair Parsley Consulting Engineers 350 West 9th Avenue, Suite 206 Escondido, CA SE 8/5/2009 AUT-PRI James B. Biggins Principal Global Risk Consultants Corporation West Barr Road Manhattan, IL Alternate: William J. Gotto 06/19/2013 Matthew J. Klaus AUT-PRI SE 1/1/1996 AUT-PRI Phillip A. Brown Principal American Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc Merit Drive, Suite 350 Dallas, TX Alternate: Jeffrey J. Rovegno IM 10/6/2000 AUT-PRI James A. Charrette Principal Allan Automatic Sprinkler Corp. of So. California 3233 Enterprise Street Brea, CA National Fire Sprinkler Association Installer/Maintainer Alternate: Ronald N. Webb IM 7/26/2007 AUT-PRI Flora F. Chen Principal Hayward Fire Department, California 777 B Street Hayward, CA E 10/20/2010 AUT-PRI Stephen A. Clark, Jr. Principal Allianz Risk Consulting, LLC 1003 Reece Drive Hoschton, GA Alternate: Andrew C. Higgins I 1/14/2005 AUT-PRI Jeffry T. Dudley Principal National Aeronautics & Space Administration 503 Glenbrook Circle Rockledge, FL U 10/20/2010 AUT-PRI Byron E. Ellis Principal Entergy Corporation 5564 Essen Lane, Mail Code L-ESSN-2M Baton Rouge, LA Edison Electric Institute U 7/23/2008 AUT-PRI Brandon W. Frakes Principal XL Global Asset Protection Services 196 Shady Grove Lane Advance, NC Alternate: Mark A. Bowman I 1/15/2004 AUT-PRI David B. Fuller Principal FM Global 1151 Boston Providence Turnpike PO Box 9102 Norwood, MA I 7/26/2007 AUT-PRI Robert M. Gagnon Principal Gagnon Engineering 2660 Daisy Road Woodbine, MD SE 4/1/1994 AUT-PRI Tanya M. Glumac Principal Liberty Mutual Property 20 Riverside Road Weston, MA Alternate: Luke Hilton I 1/10/2008 AUT-PRI LaMar Hayward Principal 3-D Fire Protection, Inc. PO Box Idaho Falls, ID IM 8/2/2010 AUT-PRI Alan R. Laguna Principal Merit Sprinkler Company, Inc. 930 Kenner Avenue PO Box 1447 Kenner, LA IM 10/3/2002 AUT-PRI 1

6 Address List No Phone Private Water Supply Piping Systems Automatic Sprinkler Systems John Lake Principal City of Gainesville 306 NE 6th Avenue, Building B PO Box 490, Station 9 Gainesville, FL E 1/31/2001 AUT-PRI George E. Laverick Principal UL LLC 333 Pfingsten Road Northbrook, IL Alternate: Michael G. McCormick 06/19/2013 Matthew J. Klaus AUT-PRI RT 4/15/2004 AUT-PRI James M. Maddry Principal James M. Maddry, P.E Foxfire Place Martinez, GA SE 1/1/1991 AUT-PRI Kevin D. Maughan Principal Tyco Fire Protection Products 1467 Elmwood Avenue Cranston, RI Alternate: Cliff Hartford M 1/14/2005 AUT-PRI Bob D. Morgan Principal Fort Worth Fire Department 1000 Throckmorton Street Fort Worth, TX E 8/2/2010 AUT-PRI David S. Mowrer Principal Babcock & Wilcox Technical Services, LLC Y-12 National Security Complex PO Box 2009, MS-8107 Oak Ridge, TN Alternate: Austin L. Smith U 1/1/1982 AUT-PRI Dale H. O'Dell L 8/2/2010 Principal AUT-PRI National Automatic Sprinkler Fitters LU Stallion Trails Victorville, CA United Assn. of Journeymen & Apprentices of the Plumbing & Pipe Fitting Industry Alternate: Charles W. Ketner Adam P. Olomon Principal Aon/RRS/Schirmer Engineering 6455 South Shore Blvd., Suite 400 League City, TX I 8/2/2010 AUT-PRI Shawn C. Olson Principal Clackamas County Fire District # SE Oak Grove Boulevard Milwaukie, OR E 10/18/2011 AUT-PRI Sam P. Salwan Principal Environmental Systems Design, Inc. 175 West Jackson Blvd., Suite 1400 Chicago, IL Alternate: Martin Ramos SE 1/1/1989 AUT-PRI Daniel Sanchez Principal City of Los Angeles Building & Safety 201 North Figueroa Street, Suite 400 Los Angeles, CA E 10/29/2012 AUT-PRI James R. Schifiliti Principal Fire Safety Consultants, Inc Alft Lane, Suite 100 Elgin, IL Illinois Fire Prevention Association IM 1/18/2001 AUT-PRI Peter T. Schwab Principal Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers, Inc. 222 Capitol Court Ocoee, FL IM 7/29/2005 AUT-PRI 2

7 Address List No Phone Private Water Supply Piping Systems Automatic Sprinkler Systems J. William Sheppard Principal Sheppard & Associates, LLC Tudor Lane Franklin, MI Alternate: Larry Keeping SE 1/1/1984 AUT-PRI Scott M. Twele Principal The RJA Group, Inc. Rolf Jensen & Associates, Inc. 591 Camino de la Reina, Suite 1025 San Diego, CA Alternate: James A. Zimmerman 06/19/2013 Matthew J. Klaus AUT-PRI SE 10/20/2010 AUT-PRI Jon R. Ackley Voting Alternate Dalmatian Fire, Inc West 73rd Street Indianapolis, IN National Fire Sprinkler Association Design M 10/29/2012 AUT-PRI Michael Larsen Voting Alternate Amway Inc Fulton Ada, MI U 03/07/2013 AUT-PRI Mark A. Bowman Alternate XL Global Asset Protection Services Chevington Drive Pickerington, OH Principal: Brandon W. Frakes I 1/15/2004 AUT-PRI William J. Gotto Alternate Global Risk Consultants Corporation 100 Walnut Avenue, 5th Floor Clark, NJ Principal: James B. Biggins SE 8/5/2009 AUT-PRI Cliff Hartford Alternate Tyco Fire Protection 2034 Falkey Road Phelps, NY Principal: Kevin D. Maughan M 10/4/2007 AUT-PRI Andrew C. Higgins Alternate Allianz Risk Consultants, LLC 38 Kilbride Drive Pinehurst, NC Principal: Stephen A. Clark, Jr. I 3/21/2006 AUT-PRI Luke Hilton Alternate Liberty Mutual Property Ballantyne Corporate Place, Suite 525 Charlotte, NC Principal: Tanya M. Glumac I 10/1/1996 AUT-PRI Larry Keeping Alternate Professional Loss Control 3413 Wolfedale Road, Suite 6 Mississauga, ON L5C 1V8 Canada Principal: J. William Sheppard SE 03/07/2013 AUT-PRI Charles W. Ketner L 8/2/2010 Alternate AUT-PRI National Automatic Sprinkler Fitters LU 669 Joint Apprenticeship & Training Committee 7050 Oakland Mills Road Columbia, MD United Assn. of Journeymen & Apprentices of the Plumbing & Pipe Fitting Industry Principal: Dale H. O'Dell Michael G. McCormick Alternate UL LLC 333 Pfingsten Road Northbrook, IL Principal: George E. Laverick RT 10/20/2010 AUT-PRI 3

8 Address List No Phone Private Water Supply Piping Systems Automatic Sprinkler Systems Martin Ramos Alternate Environmental Systems Design, Inc. 175 West Jackson Blvd., Suite 1400 Chicago, IL Principal: Sam P. Salwan SE 3/15/2007 AUT-PRI Jeffrey J. Rovegno Alternate Mr. Sprinkler Fire Protection 100 Derek Place Roseville, CA American Fire Sprinkler Association Principal: Phillip A. Brown 06/19/2013 Matthew J. Klaus AUT-PRI IM 8/5/2009 AUT-PRI Austin L. Smith Alternate Babcock & Wilcox Y-12, LLC PO Box 2009, MS 8107 Oak Ridge, TN Principal: David S. Mowrer U 3/1/2011 AUT-PRI Ronald N. Webb Alternate S.A. Comunale Company, Inc Newpark Drive Barberton, OH National Fire Sprinkler Association Installer/Maintainer Principal: James A. Charrette IM 8/2/2010 AUT-PRI James A. Zimmerman Alternate The RJA Group, Inc. 600 West Fulton Street, Suite 500 Chicago, IL Principal: Scott M. Twele SE 03/05/2012 AUT-PRI Frans Alferink Nonvoting Member Wavin Overseas 7700 Ad Dedemsvaart Rollepaal 19 Dedemsvaart, OV 7701 BR Netherlands U 10/29/2012 AUT-PRI Matthew J. Klaus Staff Liaison National Fire Protection Association 1 Batterymarch Park Quincy, MA /16/2010 AUT-PRI 4

9 PART 3 NEW PROCESS WORKSHEETS

10 New Terms TERMS Old Terms March 13, 2012 Input Stage Stage where Public Input is sought to develop the First Draft. Public Input (PI) A recommended change submitted for consideration by the Technical Committee. Each Public Input (PI) shall include new, modified or deleted text as appropriate and technical substantiation to support the recommended change. Report on Proposals (ROP) Stage Proposal Download a Public Input Form for documents in Fall 2013 and subsequent cycles First Draft Meeting First Revision (FR) Proposed changes to the text of an NFPA Standard developed by the responsible Committee(s) in the Input Stage. Each First Revision shall contain the new, modified or deleted text as appropriate. A First Revision shall be established through a Meeting Vote and shall only require a simple majority to proceed to ballot. Only First Revisions that pass ballot will show in the First Draft. Each First Revision shall contain a Committee Statement that substantiates the proposed change to the document. Committee Input (CI) A CI can be established during the First Draft Technical Committee meeting (without balloting) in order to highlight the concept to obtain public comment; often used for newer ideas, topics that aren t fully fleshed out or controversial topics. A Committee Input (CI) can also be a First Revision (FR) that fails to receive support of the technical committee through letter ballot. Committee Inputs shall maintain the original FR Committee Statement and shall contain a notification to the reviewer documenting that the CI represents a failed FR. Committee Statement (CS) A Committee Statement is the committee s response to a Public Input (PI), Public Comment (PC) or the committee s technical substantiation for a proposed First Revision. A committee statement shall be established through a Meeting Vote and shall only require a simple majority to proceed. First Draft Report The First Draft Report documents the Input Stage; it shall contain the First Draft, Public Input, Committee Input, Committee and Correlating Committee Statements, Correlating Input, Correlating Notes and Ballot Statements. First Draft The draft of the proposed new or revised standard showing in legislative text all First Revisions and First Correlating Revisions that have passed ballot. Correlating Committee (CC) Correlating Committee Statement The Correlating Committee s response to a Public Input (PI), Committee Input (CI), Public Comment (PC) or the Correlating Committee s technical substantiation for a correlating change to proposed Revision or a correlative CCFR. It shall be established through a Meeting Vote and shall only require a simple majority to proceed. Correlating Committee First Revision (CCFR) Correlating Committee First Revisions are proposed revisions to the Technical Committee s First Revisions that are required to correlate the proposed document. Each CCFR shall contain a Correlating Committee Statement that substantiates the Revision. A CCFR shall be established through a Meeting Vote and shall only require a simple majority to proceed to letter ballot. CCFRs that fail to receive CC support through letter ballot shall not be published as part of the First Draft. ROP Meeting Committee Proposal or Accepted Public Proposal Trial Balloon or an Accepted Proposal (or Committee Proposal) that Failed Ballot Committee Statement ROP ROP Draft Technical Correlating Committee TCC Note TCC Note Technical Committee First Draft meeting - Spring 2012 Page 2 of 34 V.2 3/13/2012

11 Comment Stage Public Comment Changes submitted by the public during public Comment Stage. Second Draft Meeting Second Revision (SR) Similar to First Revision, but in the Comment Stage. Proposed changes to the text by the TC that have passed ballot. Committee Comment A Committee Comment shall be a Second Revision (SR) that fails to receive support of the TC through ballot. Committee Comments shall maintain the original Committee Statement and shall contain a notification to the reviewer documenting that the Committee Comment represents a failed SR. Committee Action An action by a TC to accept or reject a Comment. This occurs only in the Comment Stage and the action itself is not balloted. Second Draft Report The Second Draft Report documents the Comment Stage; it shall contain the Second Draft, Public Comments with corresponding Committee Actions and Committee Statements, Committee Comments, Correlating Revisions and Ballot Statements. Second Draft The draft of the proposed new or revised standard showing in legislative text all Second Revisions and Second Correlating Revisions that have passed ballot. Report on Comments (ROC) Stage Public Comment ROC Meeting Committee Comment or Accepted Public Comment Committee Comment that failed ballot Committee Action ROC ROC Draft Technical Committee First Draft meeting - Spring 2012 Page 3 of 34 V.2 3/13/2012

12 NEW PROCESS ACTIONS AND MOTIONS Step One: Step One: (1 st option) Possible Action 1: Resolve PIs, (no change to Section) Action Required Sample Motions Committee generates a statement to respond to (resolve) each PI # I make a motion (move) to resolve PI# with the following committee statement: Approval by a meeting vote (simple majority) and not subject to ballot (Regs & ) Possible Action 2: Create First Revision Change to a Section Action Required Sample Motions Committee generates a First Revision I make a motion (move) to revise Section as follows: Step Two: (1 st option) Committee generates a statement substantiating the change. Approval by a meeting vote (simply majority) and final approval through ballot (Regs ) Approval by a meeting vote (simply majority) (Regs ) Step One: (2 nd option) Step Two: (2 nd option) Committee generates a First Revision using one or more PIs as the starting point. If the revision is associated with one or more PIs the committee generates a statement to respond to (resolve) each PI I make a motion to revise Section using PI# as the basis for change. Approval by a meeting vote (simply majority) and final approval through ballot (Regs ) I make a motion (move) to resolve PIs # through ## with the following statement: Step One: Step Two: Approval by a meeting vote (simply majority) and not subject to ballot (Regs & ) Possible Action 3: Create Committee Input (Trial Balloon/Placeholder) Action Required Sample Motions Committee generates a Committee Input (proposed revision) for public consideration and solicitation of Public Comments Committee generates a statement to explain the intent and why it is seeking public consideration and soliciting Public Comments I make a motion (move) to create a CI with a proposed revision to X.X.X as follows: Approval by a meeting vote (simply majority) and not subject to ballot (Regs 4.3.8) Approval by a meeting vote (simply majority) (Regs ) New Process Actions and Motions Final 2/13/2012 Technical Committee First Draft meeting - Spring 2012 Page 8 of 34 V.2 3/13/2012

13 PART 4 A2012 ROC MEETING MINUTES

14 NFPA Technical Committee on Private Water Supply Piping ROC Meeting Newport Beach Marriott Newport Beach, California September 29, 2011 MEETING MINUTES 1. Call to Order. TC Chair Ken Wagoner called the meeting to order at 8: Self-Introductions of members and guests. Members of the committee introduced themselves and reviewed the contact information. The meeting attendance list is attached to these minutes. 3. Review of Distributed Meeting Materials. Staff Liaison Matt Klaus provided an overview of the agenda materials that were sent to the committee and posted on the committee web page. 4. Approval of A12-ROP Draft Meeting Minutes. The minutes of the A12-ROP Meeting were reviewed and approved without modification. 5. Review of Meeting Procedures and Revision Process. Matt Klaus gave a presentation on the overall meeting guidelines and the NFPA Regulations Governing TC operations. 6. Work Load. TC Chair Ken Wagoner discussed the logistics for the meeting and the process to complete the ROC meeting. 7. Public and Committee Comments. The committee then processed the comments. See the ROC for the official actions on the proposals. 8. New Business: a. The TC plans to form an inter-committee task group with the SSD TC to address held comments on water supply data and hydrant flow testing. Staff to send a request to the FPRF for a code fund project (completed). b. The TC developed a new task group to work on an off-cycle rewrite of NFPA 24. The task group roster is as follows:

15 Karl Weigand Pete Schwab Jim Biggins Jim Charrette George Laverick Phil Brown David Fuller 9. Adjournment. Meeting adjourned at 2:30 pm.

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19 PART 5 A2015 KEY DATES

20 2015 ANNUAL REVISION CYCLE *Public Input Dates may vary according to standards and schedules for Revision Cycles may change. Please check the NFPA Website for the most up to date information on Public Input Closing Dates and schedules at # (i.e. and click on the Next Edition tab. Process Stage Process Step Dates for TC Dates for TC with CC Public Input Closing Date* 7/8/2013 7/8/2013 Final Date for TC First Draft Meeting 12/13/2013 9/13/2013 Public Input Posting of First Draft and TC Ballot 1/31/ /25/2013 Stage Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot 7/21/ /15/2013 (First Draft) Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot recirc 2/28/ /22/2013 Posting of First Draft for CC Meeting 11/29/2013 Final date for CC First Draft Meeting 1/10/2014 Posting of First Draft and CC Ballot 1/31/2014 Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot 2/21/2014 Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot recirc 2/28/2014 Post First Draft Report for Public Comment 3/7/2014 3/7/2014 Public Comment Closing Date for Paper Submittal* 4/11/2014 4/11/2014 Public Comment Closing Date for Online Submittal (e PC)* 5/16/2014 5/16/2014 Final Date to Publish Notice of Consent Documents (Standards that 5/30/2014 5/30/2014 received no Comments) Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards (Standards that received 6/13/2014 6/13/2014 no Comments) Final date for TC Second Draft Meeting 10/31/2014 7/25/2014 Comment Posting of Second Draft and TC Ballot 12/12/2014 9/5/2014 Stage Final date for Receipt of TC Second Draft ballot 1/2/2015 9/26/2014 (Second Final date for receipt of TC Second Draft ballot recirc 1/9/ /3/2014 Draft) Posting of Second Draft for CC Meeting 10/10/2014 Final date for CC Second Draft Meeting 11/21/2014 Posting of Second Draft for CC Ballot 12/12/2014 Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot 1/2/2015 Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot recirc 1/9/2015 Post Second Draft Report for NITMAM Review 1/16/2015 1/16/2015 Tech Session Notice of Intent to Make a Motion (NITMAM) Closing Date 3/6/2015 3/6/2015 Preparation Posting of Certified Amending Motions (CAMs) and Consent 5/1/2015 5/1/2015 Standards (& Issuance) Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards 5/16/2015 5/16/2015 SC Issuance Date for Consent Standards 5/26/2015 5/26/2015 Tech Session Association Meeting for Standards with CAMs 6/22 25/2016 6/22 25/2016 Appeals and Appeal Closing Date for Standards with CAMs 7/15/2015 7/15/2015 Issuance SC Issuance Date for Standards with CAMs 8/20/2015 8/20/2015 Approved October 18, 2011 _ Revised March 7, 2013

21 PART 6 PUBLIC INPUT

22 6/21/13 TerraView Public Input No. 492-NFPA [ Section No [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] Where seismic protection is provided, C-type clamps (including beam and large flange clamps) used to attach hangers to the building structure shall be equipped with a restraining strap unless the provisions of are satisfied. C-type clamps with or without restraining straps shall not be used to attach hangers of any pipe for which lateral bracing has been omitted per the provisions of or any pipe attached to that pipe. Where lateral bracing is omitted, piping will be subject to large and repeated lateral deflections that could damage or displace c-clamp hangers on the pipe for which the bracing is omitted or on the attached pipe (e.g., branch lines attached to a cross main). Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Open Public Input No. 489-NFPA [Section No ] Relationship Submitter Full Name: Christopher Deneff Organization: FM Global Submittal Date: Fri May 31 10:34:15 EDT 2013 I, Christopher Deneff, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Input (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem publication of the NFPA in w hich this Public Input in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby copyright assignment. By checking this box I affirm that I am Christopher Deneff, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, effect as a handw ritten signature /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml Public Input No. 444-NFPA [ Section No ] The torquing of bolted joints shall be checked be checked against manufacturer's requirments. [ 24: ] By requiring checking torque against manufacturer's requirements will ensure that proper torquing is achieved. Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 15:56:25 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Input (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem publication of the NFPA in w hich this Public Input in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 225/477

23 6/21/13 TerraView Public Input No. 446-NFPA [ New Section after ] TITLE OF NEW CONTENT Type your content here Plugs shall be recorded as to their location Plugs shall be verified to be removed prior to recommencement of work. the installation of plugs is important, but so is the tracking of where they are installed and their removal to ensure that the piping is not blocked when placed in service. Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 15:58:53 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Input (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem publication of the NFPA in w hich this Public Input in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml Public Input No. 448-NFPA [ Section No ] The diameter of holes shall be 1 8 in. (3.2 mm) larger than that of rods or bolts. [ 24: ] provides clarification for use of bolts Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 16:01:56 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Input (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem publication of the NFPA in w hich this Public Input in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 226/477

24 6/21/13 TerraView Public Input No. 450-NFPA [ Section No ] The strap shall be 3 4 in. (19.1 mm) thick and in. (63.5 mm) wide, regardless of pipe diameter. [ 24: ] provides definition regarding the size of piping vs. the size of the straps Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 16:07:17 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Input (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem publication of the NFPA in w hich this Public Input in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml Public Input No. 452-NFPA [ New Section after ] TITLE OF NEW CONTENT Type your content here Material selected shall be compatible with the piping material to be installed. material compatibility is necessary to avoid potential electrolysis between dissimilar metals Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 16:15:20 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Input (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem publication of the NFPA in w hich this Public Input in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 227/477

25 6/21/13 TerraView Public Input No. 453-NFPA [ New Section after ] TITLE OF NEW CONTENT Type your content here Opening and closing of hydrants shall be completed under both static pressure (no flow) and flow conditions. by adding that the hydrant has to be operated under no flow and flow conditions, ensures proper operation of the hydrant Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 16:22:46 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Input (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem publication of the NFPA in w hich this Public Input in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml Public Input No. 192-NFPA [ Section No ] * Adjacent Hazards or Design Methods. For buildings with two or more adjacent hazards or design methods, the following shall apply: (1) Where areas are not physically separated by a barrier or partition capable of delaying heat from a fire in one area from fusing sprinklers in the adjacent area, the required sprinkler protection for the more demanding design basis shall extend 15 ft (4.6 m) beyond its perimeter. (2) The requirements of (1) shall not apply where the areas are separated by a barrier partition that is capable of preventing delaying heat from a fire in one area from fusing sprinklers in the adjacent area. (3) The requirements of (1) shall not apply to the extension of more demanding criteria from an upper ceiling level to beneath a lower ceiling level where the difference in height between the ceiling levels is at least 2 ft (0.6 m). The terminology between sections (1) and (2) needs to be consistent. One currently uses the terminology "delay" while the other uses the term "prevent". Since "prevent" has a more permanent connotation, its use here is inappropriate. All we are trying to do is delay the operation of sprinklers in the remote area until sprinklers over the fire have had a chance to open. Submitter Full Name: Roland Asp Organization: National Fire Sprinkler Association Affilliation: NFSA E&S Committee Submittal Date: Thu Apr 18 16:16:42 EDT 2013 I, Roland Asp, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Input (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem publication of the NFPA in w hich this Public Input in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby By checking this box I affirm that I am Roland Asp, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 228/477

26 PART 6 NFPA 24 PUBLIC INPUT

27 Public Input No. 57-NFPA [ Global Input ] NOTE: This proposal appeared as Comment (Log #CC5) which was held from the A12 ROC on Proposal Correlate Annex C and D through extract (or copy) from NFPA 291. Additional Proposed Changes Open File Name Description Approved 24_PI_57_Held_Comment_24-24_TC_AUT- PRI_.pdf Held Comment This will provide consistency between the two documents. Submitter Full Name: TC on AUT-PRI Organization: TC on Private Water Supply Piping Systems Submittal Date: Thu May 23 11:46:43 EDT 2013 I, TC on AUT-PRI, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am TC on AUT-PRI, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that w ill, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml Public Input No. 60-NFPA [ Section No ] submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 1/85

28 2.3.3 AWWA Publications. American Water Works Association, 6666 West Quincy Avenue, Denver, CO AWWA C104, Cement Mortar Lining for Ductile Iron Pipe and Fittings for Water, AWWA C105, Polyethylene Encasement for Ductile Iron Pipe Systems, AWWA C110, Ductile Iron and Gray Iron Fittings, AWWA C111, Rubber-Gask et Joints for Ductile Iron Pressure Pipe and Fittings, AWWA C115, Flanged Ductile Iron Pipe with Ductile Iron or Gray Iron Threaded Flanges, AWWA C116, Protective Fusion-Bonded Epoxy Coatings for the Interior and Exterior Surfaces of Ductile-Iron and Gray-Iron Fittings for Water Supply Service, AWWA C150, Thick ness Design of Ductile Iron Pipe, AWWA C151, Ductile Iron Pipe, Centrifugally Cast for Water, AWWA C153, Ductile-Iron Compact Fittings for Water Service, AWWA C200, Steel Water Pipe 6 in. and Larger, AWWA C203, Coal-Tar Protective Coatings and Linings for Steel Water Pipelines Enamel and Tape Hot Applied, AWWA C205, Cement-Mortar Protective Lining and Coating for Steel Water Pipe 4 in. and Larger Shop Applied, AWWA C206, Field Welding of Steel Water Pipe, AWWA C207, Steel Pipe Flanges for Waterworks Service Sizes 4 in. Through 144 in., AWWA C208, Dimensions for Fabricated Steel Water Pipe Fittings, AWWA C300, Reinforced Concrete Pressure Pipe, Steel-Cylinder Type, AWWA C301, Prestressed Concrete Pressure Pipe, Steel-Cylinder Type, AWWA C302, Reinforced Concrete Pressure Pipe, Non-Cylinder Type, AWWA C303, Reinforced Concrete Pressure Pipe, Steel-Cylinder Type, Pretensioned, AWWA C400, Standard for Asbestos-Cement Distribution Pipe, 4 in. Through 16 in. (100 mm through 400 mm), for Water Distribution Systems, AWWA C401, Standard for the Selection of Asbestos-Cement Pressure Pipe 4 in. through 16 in. (100 mm through 400 mm), AWWA C600, Standard for the Installation of Ductile Iron Water Mains and Their Appurtenances, AWWA C602, Cement-Mortar Lining of Water Pipe Lines 4 in. and Larger in Place, AWWA C603, Standard for the Installation of Asbestos-Cement Pressure Pipe, AWWA C900, Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) Pressure Pipe, 4 in. Through 12 in., for Water Distribution, AWWA C905, AWWA Standard for Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) Pressure Pipe and submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 2/85

29 Fabricated Fittings, 14 in. Through 48 in. (350 mm Through 1,200 mm), AWWA C906, Polyethylene (PE) Pressure Pipe and Fittings, 4 in. (100 mm) Through 63 in. (1575 mm) for Water Distribution, AWWA C909, Molecularly Oriented Polyvinyl Chloride (PVCO) Pressure Pipe, 4 IN through24 IN. (100 MM through 600 MM ), for Water Wastewater, and Reclaimed Water Service,03/01/2010 AWWA M11, A Guide for Steel Pipe Design and Installation, 4th edition, PVC-O solves the problem of the low impact of PVC-U at low temperatures and the problem that PVC-u is more sensitive to water hammer. PVC-O is not. This type of pipe is in use all over the world, produced by a number of different companies and with a good track record. The pipe is in use since approx Several of our customers have asked to use this pipe also for fire fighting lines, but it failes to be registered in NFPA24 Submitter Full Name: Frans Alferink Organization: Wavin Overseas Affilliation: S2renginieros, Bogota, Colombia. Antonio Yesid Lopez Submittal Date: Thu May 23 14:32:52 EDT 2013 I, Frans Alferink, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Frans Alferink, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 3/85

30 Public Input No. 1-NFPA [ Section No ] Indicating Valve. A valve that has components that show if the valve is open or closed. Examples are outside screw and yoke (OS&Y) gate valves and underground gate valves with indicator posts. Examples belong in the annex. Another PI places the language in the annex. Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Wed Dec 12 16:40:06 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml Public Input No. 65-NFPA [ Section No ] submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 4/85

31 4.1.3 Working plans shall be drawn to an indicated scale on sheets of uniform size, with a plan of each floor as applicable, and shall include the following items that pertain to the design of the system: (1) Name of owner (2) Location, including street address (3) Point of compass (4) A graphic representation of the scale used on all plans (5) Name and address of contractor (6) Size and location of all water supplies (7) Size and location of standpipe risers, hose outlets, hand hose, monitor nozzles, and related equipment (8) The following items that pertain to private fire service mains: (a) Size (b) Length (c) Location (d) Weight (e) Material (f) Point of connection to city main (g) Sizes, types, and locations of valves, valve indicators, regulators, meters, and valve pits (h) Depth at which the top of the pipe is laid below grade (i) Method of restraint (9) The following items that pertain to hydrants: (a) Size and location, including size and number of outlets and whether outlets are to be equipped with independent gate valves (b) Thread size and coupling adapter specifications if different from National Standard Hose Threads as defined by NFPA 1963 (c) Whether hose houses and equipment are to be provided, and by whom (d) Static and residual hydrants used in flow (e) Method of restraint (10) Size, location, and piping arrangement of fire department connections Specifying National Standard identifies the specific type of thread that should be the standard for hydrants. Hdyrants that utilize hose threads other than National Standard should be idenfied on the drawings Submitter Full Name: John Campbell submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 5/85

32 Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 16:31:48 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml Public Input No. 56-NFPA [ New Section after ] NOTE: This proposal appeared as Comment 24-1 (Log #3) which was held from the A12 ROC on Proposal Do not take the action in Proposal Instead, revise section and insert an annex note as follows: 5.1.3* Where the volume and pressure available from a water supply are determined through a waterflow test, an adjustment shall be made to the test data to account for daily and seasonal fluctuations. A Flow tests that are run during the middle of a business day often do not account for peak water demands at other times of the day or water use during other times of year. Under ideal circumstances, NFPA 24 would have a specific value to apply to all situations, but that is not practical given the wide variations of water supplies in use and the variations of when waterflow tests are conducted. Waterflow tests conducted close to peak water usage times would need less of an adjustment than waterflow tests conducted during low water usage times. Consultation with the water authority may be necessary to determine an appropriate adjustment factor. Use of 24 hour gages at a hydrant can be helpful in determining day to day fluctuations. In addition, the user should also consider other water usage factors such as simultaneous industrial use, the potential for future demand on the system in the area of the test (depending on how well developed the area already is) and other conditions that would affect the water supply. Additional Proposed Changes File Name Description Approved Open 24_PI_56_Held_Comment_24-1_Kelly_.pdf Held Comment 24-1 While some of the material currently in section is more appropriate in the annex, the basic concept of requiring some adjustment to the data is still needed in the body of the standard. It is completely irresponsible to conduct a waterflow test at a hydrant at a time of very low water submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 6/85

33 demand and believe that you are going to have all of that flow and pressure available when a fire occurs a few hours later during a regular and known peak demand time. As proposed, the rule would only apply in those situations where the waterflow test is being performed and would not apply to the development of water supply data from other sources. The concept of evaluating the water supply for possible interruptions from flood or ice conditions has been intentionally dropped from the language because this does not have to do with the flow or pressure available. This concept should be a part of the determination as to whether the water supply is reliable enough to use at all, which is a completely different concept and should not be tied to evaluating data from a flow test. Submitter Full Name: KEVIN KELLY Organization: [ Not Specified ] Submittal Date: Thu May 23 11:37:20 EDT 2013 I, KEVIN KELLY, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am KEVIN KELLY, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 7/85

34 Public Input No. 43-NFPA [ Section No ] Private Fire Service Mains. Pipe smaller than 6 in. (152 mm) in diameter shall not be installed as a private service main supplying hydrants. A minimum 8 in. (203.2mm) diameter pipe shall be utilized for systems supplying multiple fire hydrants unless it can be demonstrated that a smaller main will provide the proposed and future development with adequate pressure and fire-flow. Makes this standard compatible with AWWA and other regional standards. Fire hydrants should only be connected to water mains adequately sized to carry necessary fire flows. Private fire service mains that serve residential, industrial, or commercial developments may require larger mains to assure adequate pressure and fire-flow for current and future development needs. Submitter Full Name: Doug Hohbein Organization: Northcentral Fire Code Develop Submittal Date: Tue Apr 02 22:42:17 EDT 2013 I, Doug Hohbein, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Doug Hohbein, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 8/85

35 Public Input No. 66-NFPA [ Section No ] Where meters are required by other authorities, they shall be listed for fire service. provides consistency with other NFPA standards on equipment being listed for fire service Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 16:33:56 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml Public Input No. 67-NFPA [ New Section after 5.8 ] TITLE OF NEW CONTENT Type your content here * Suction Screening shall be removable or an in situ cleaning shall be provided. [20: ] Screens shall be so arranged that they can be cleaned or repaired without disturbing the intake pipe. [20: ] Mesh screens shall be brass, copper, Monel, stainless steel, or other equivalent corrosion-resistant metallic material wire screen of 0.50 in. (12.7 mm) maximum mesh submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 9/85

36 and No. 10 B&S gauge. [20: ] Where flat panel mesh screens are used, the wire shall be secured to a metal frame sliding vertically at the entrance to the intake. [20: ] Where the screens are located in a sump or depression, they shall be equipped with a debris-lifting rake. [20: ] Periodically, the screens shall be removed for inspection, and accumulated debris shall be removed Coninuous slot screens shall be brass, copper, Monel, stainless steel, or other equivalent corrosion-resistant metallic material of in. (3.2 mm) maximum slot and profile wire construction. [20: ] Screens shall have at least 62.5 percent open area. [20: ] Where zebra mussel infestation is present or reasonably anticipated, the screens shall be constructed of a material with demonstrated resistance to zebra mussel attachment or coated with a material with demonstrated resistance to zebra mussel attachment. [20: ] The overall area of the screen shall be at least 1.6 times the net screen opening area. [20: ] adding details on the screens provides for the screen construction and consistency with other standards that utilize screens on intakes from open bodies of water (NFPA20). wording is similar to that found in NFPA 20. Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 16:38:24 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 10/85

37 Public Input No. 47-NFPA [ Section No [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] Where a fire department connection is required by other standards and when the authority having jurisdiction requires it to be at a remote fire department connection, for systems requiring one by another standard, a location remote from the building, the fire department connection shall be provided as described in Section 5.9. Additional Proposed Changes File Name Open LK_NFPA_ _Proposal_1_of_5.docx Description Approved Cover Sheet This proposed revision is strictly editorial, as the current text is a bit awkward. Submitter Full Name: Larry Keeping Organization: Professional Loss Control Submittal Date: Mon May 13 13:37:40 EDT 2013 I, Larry Keeping, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Larry Keeping, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 11/85

38 Public Input No. 48-NFPA [ Section No ] Fire department connections shall be equipped with listed plugs or caps that are secured and arranged for easy removal by fire departments. Additional Proposed Changes File Name Open LK_NFPA_ _Proposal_2_of_5.docx Description Approved Cover Sheet There is no need to utilize listed plugs or caps for a fire department connection. Often, the nice new brass ones that come with a listed FDC go missing and have to be replaced. To avoid repetitions of such losses, one option that building owners may choose is to replace them with vandal resistant break away or knock off caps, which are economical, unattractive to brass scavengers and they generally make poor ash trays. These devices are not usually listed and they do not need to be, because components such as FDC caps and plugs do not affect system performance. Submitter Full Name: Larry Keeping Organization: Professional Loss Control Submittal Date: Mon May 13 13:39:34 EDT 2013 I, Larry Keeping, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Larry Keeping, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 12/85

39 Public Input No. 44-NFPA [ New Section after ] The AHJ shall have the authority to require locking fire department connection ( FDC ) plugs or caps on all water-based fire protection systems. (1:13) Makes this standard compatible with NFPA 1 Chapter 13 and gives AHJ's the ability to require locking caps for FDC s on private water systems where jurisdictions do not utilize NFPA 1. Submitter Full Name: Doug Hohbein Organization: Northcentral Fire Code Develop Submittal Date: Tue Apr 02 22:43:26 EDT 2013 I, Doug Hohbein, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Doug Hohbein, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 13/85

40 Public Input No. 68-NFPA [ Section No ] The fire department connection(s) shall use an NH internal threaded swivel fitting(s) with an NH standard thread(s), except as modified by As currently written, the section contradicts the previous (unmodified) section 4.1.3(9)(b). By allowing for an exception for the use of non-standard threads, clarification is provided. Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 16:57:00 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 14/85

41 Public Input No. 17-NFPA [ New Section after ] Control valves shall be permitted to be installed downstream of the point where the fire department connection piping connects to the system piping. A Figure A (a) and Figure A (b) depict fire department connections to the underground pipe. Add Annex Figures A (a) and A (b) as taken from NFPA 13 A (a) and A (b) Additional Proposed Changes File Name Description Approved Open FDC_s.JPG FDC's connected to underground as taken from NFPA 13 Clarifies that valves can be downstream of FDC's and correlates with NFPA 13. Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Thu Dec 13 13:16:34 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 15/85

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43 Public Input No. 89-NFPA [ Section No ] No shutoff valve shall be permitted in the piping from the fire department connection piping to the point that the fire department connection piping connects to the system piping fire service main. Additional Proposed Changes File Name Open 24_Brown.pdf Description Approved Cover Sheet The use of the term "system piping" has caused confusion on just where a fire department connection (fdc) can be installed. They read this as meaning that you cannot have any shutoff valve between the fdc and the system sprinkler system. Thus the arrangement shown in Figure A would not be allowed sense there is two shutoff valves shown between the fdc and the sprinklered building. The term "fire service main" is used in Figure A.5.9(b). Submitter Full Name: Phillip Brown Organization: American Fire Sprinkler Association Submittal Date: Mon Jun 03 11:27:30 EDT 2013 I, Phillip Brow n, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Phillip Brow n, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 16/85

44 Public Input No. 18-NFPA [ New Section after ] The automatic drip shall be permitted to be buried where permitted by the authority having jurisdiction Where the automatic drip is buried as allowed by , the outlet shall discharge into a bed of crushed stone or pea gravel. The 2013 edition was modified to require access to the ball drip. Many AHJ's require that fire department connections (FDC) are remote. NFPA suggests that the check valve for the FDC be located as close to the connection to the system as possible. This could leave long sections of underground piping with no pressure. This piping could get cut and one will not know about it until an NFPA 25 inspection is performed or the fire department pumps into the connection. Many AHJ's want water brought as close to the FDC as possible to avoid this situation. By requiring access to the ball drip, this could require a vault or deep meter box costing hundreds of dollars. This new section gives the AHJ an allowance to require the automatic drip close to the FDC and still have water on the underground piping for supervision. Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Thu Dec 13 13:46:36 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 17/85

45 Public Input No. 19-NFPA [ Section No ] An automatic drip shall not be required in areas where the piping is not subject to freezing. There are many areas in the country where the temperature of the air will dip below 32 degrees Fahrenheit but will never last long enough to freeze a 4" or 6" pipe. Technically this means that freezing has been achieved because water freezes at 32 FH. This change gives allowance for these climate areas. Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Thu Dec 13 13:55:14 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 18/85

46 Public Input No. 45-NFPA [ Section No ] An automatic drip shall not be required in on fire department connections for systems located in areas not subject to freezing. As presently written, this requirement may be confused as to mean that the location of the automatic drip cannot be in an area where it would freeze. In actuality, the automatic drip is not required on any part of a system that is located in a geographical area that is not subject to freezing climates. Submitter Full Name: John Chartier Organization: Northeastern Regional Fire Cod Submittal Date: Thu Apr 11 08:24:44 EDT 2013 I, John Chartier, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am John Chartier, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 19/85

47 Public Input No. 22-NFPA [ New Section after ] Fire department connections shall not be connected on the suction side of fire pumps. This is important information that should be located in this section. Renumber accordingly. Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Thu Dec 13 15:25:43 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 20/85

48 Public Input No. 69-NFPA [ Section No ] * Fire Remote fire department connections shall be located at the nearest point of fire department apparatus accessibility or at a location approved by the authority having jurisdiction. the section needs to be specific in that it is referencing remote fire department connections. Fire department connections mounted on buildings are under the jurisdiction of NFPA 13. Identifying "remote" keeps the informatoin specific to remotely located hydrants. Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 16:59:34 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 21/85

49 Public Input No. 70-NFPA [ Section No ] * Fire Remote fire department connections shall be located and arranged so that hose lines can be attached to the inlets without interference. the section needs to be specific in that it is referencing remote fire department connections. Fire department connections mounted on buildings are under the jurisdiction of NFPA 13. Identifying "remote" keeps the informatoin specific to remotely located hydrants. Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 17:02:34 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 22/85

50 Public Input No. 71-NFPA [ Section No ] * Each fire remote fire department connection shall be designated by a sign as follows: (1) The sign shall have raised or engraved letters at least 1 in. (25.4 mm) in height on a plate or fitting. (2) * The sign shall indicate the type of system for which the connection is intended. the section needs to be specific in that it is referencing remote fire department connections. Fire department connections mounted on buildings are under the jurisdiction of NFPA 13. Identifying "remote" keeps the informatoin specific to remotely located hydrants. Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 17:03:18 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 23/85

51 Public Input No. 21-NFPA [ Section No ] Where the system demand pressure exceeds 150 psi (10.3 bar), the sign required by a sign located at the fire department connection shall indicate the required design inlet pressure. Almost all the fire department connection plates indicating the connection type (autosprinkler, standpipe or both) are bought directly from the fire department connection manufacturers. Engraving these with the required inlet pressure is impractical. Also, since the sign referred to requires one inch high letters, it could be construed that the pressure information should also be the same size. In the fire sprinkler business, when a higher pressure requirement must be posted, we have custom made signs produced and placed on or at the FDC. Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Thu Dec 13 15:11:57 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 24/85

52 Public Input No. 72-NFPA [ Section No ] Where a fire remote fire department connection only supplies a portion(s) of the building, a sign shall be attached to indicate the portion(s) of the building supplied. the section needs to be specific in that it is referencing remote fire department connections. Fire department connections mounted on buildings are under the jurisdiction of NFPA 13. Identifying "remote" keeps the informatoin specific to remotely located hydrants. Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 17:04:07 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 25/85

53 Public Input No. 49-NFPA [ Section No ] All Except as permitted by 6.2.1, all valves controlling connections to water supplies and to supply pipes to sprinklers water-based fire protection systems shall be listed indicating valves. Additional Proposed Changes File Name Open LK_NFPA_ _Proposal_3_of_5.docx Description Approved Cover Sheet During the previous revision cycle the words listed indicating were deleted from This created a conflict whereby and call for listed indicating valves on water supplies, but does not. The proposed text is offered as a resolution to this conflict. Additionally the modification to would require the configuration to be acceptable to the AHJ and the proposed Annex text would offer an explanation for the matter. Also, in the specific reference to sprinklers was revised to water-based fire protection systems, since private fire service mains supply other types of systems as well. Submitter Full Name: Larry Keeping Organization: Professional Loss Control Submittal Date: Mon May 13 13:40:56 EDT 2013 I, Larry Keeping, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Larry Keeping, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 26/85

54 Public Input No. 73-NFPA [ New Section after ] TITLE OF NEW CONTENT Type your content here When more than one valve is installed in a water system, all valves shall be of the same opening direction. addresses the possibility of installing different opening direction valves in the same system by requiring that all valves be of the same operating characteristic Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 17:05:09 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 27/85

55 Public Input No. 50-NFPA [ Section No ] * At least one approved control valve shall be installed in each source of water supply. Additional Proposed Changes File Name Open LK_NFPA_ _Proposal_3_of_5.docx Description Approved Cover Sheet During the previous revision cycle the words listed indicating were deleted from This created a conflict whereby and call for listed indicating valves on water supplies, but does not. The proposed text is offered as a resolution to this conflict. Additionally the modification to would require the configuration to be acceptable to the AHJ and the proposed Annex text would offer an explanation for the matter. Also, in the specific reference to sprinklers was revised to water-based fire protection systems, since private fire service mains supply other types of systems as well. Submitter Full Name: Larry Keeping Organization: Professional Loss Control Submittal Date: Mon May 13 13:42:33 EDT 2013 I, Larry Keeping, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Larry Keeping, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 28/85

56 Public Input No. 88-NFPA [ Section No ] No shutoff valve shall be permitted in the piping from the fire department connection to the point that the fire department connection piping connects to the system piping fire service main. Additional Proposed Changes File Name Open 24_Brown.pdf Description Approved Cover Sheet The use of the term "system piping" has caused confusion on just where a fire department connection (fdc) can be installed. They read this as meaning that you cannot have any shutoff valve between the fdc and the system sprinkler system. Thus the arrangement shown in Figure A would not be allowed sense there is two shutoff valves shown between the fdc and the sprinklered building. The term "fire service main" is used in Figure A.5.9(b). Submitter Full Name: Phillip Brown Organization: American Fire Sprinkler Association Submittal Date: Mon Jun 03 11:24:43 EDT 2013 I, Phillip Brow n, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Phillip Brow n, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 29/85

57 Public Input No. 51-NFPA [ Section No ] 6.2.5* In a connection serving as one source of supply, listed indicating valves or post indicator valves control valves in accordance with and shall be installed on both sides of all check valves required in Additional Proposed Changes File Name Open LK_NFPA_ _Proposal_3_of_5.docx Description Approved Cover Sheet During the previous revision cycle the words listed indicating were deleted from This created a conflict whereby and call for listed indicating valves on water supplies, but does not. The proposed text is offered as a resolution to this conflict. Additionally the modification to would require the configuration to be acceptable to the AHJ and the proposed Annex text would offer an explanation for the matter. Also, in the specific reference to sprinklers was revised to water-based fire protection systems, since private fire service mains supply other types of systems as well. Submitter Full Name: Larry Keeping Organization: Professional Loss Control Submittal Date: Mon May 13 13:43:38 EDT 2013 I, Larry Keeping, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Larry Keeping, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 30/85

58 Public Input No. 74-NFPA [ Section No ] * The following requirements shall apply where a gravity tank is located on a building: (1) Both control valves shall be outside screw and yoke or listed indicating valves. (2) All fittings inside the building, except the drain tee and heater connections, shall be under the control of a listed valve. Exception: Welded fittings do not require a control valve. welded fittings should not require a control valve as they by their very nature, are typically not removed Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 17:07:32 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 31/85

59 Public Input No. 29-NFPA [ Section No [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] Hydrants shall be of an approved type and have not less than a 6 in. (152 mm) diameter connection with the mains. be listed for fire protection. This standard requires valves to be listed. Hydrants are a vital component of private fire service mains and they should be listed as well. Listed hydrants are readily available and are not cost prohibitive. The minimum pipe size requirement has been deleted as it is located in which is more appropriate. The only instance where a hydrant should not have to be listed is a draft hydrant which is outside the scope of this standard. Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Thu Dec 13 16:34:50 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 32/85

60 Public Input No. 30-NFPA [ Section No [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] A valve shall be installed in the in each hydrant connection. Clarifies that each hydrant shall have its own isolation valve. Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Thu Dec 13 16:41:20 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 33/85

61 Public Input No. 75-NFPA [ New Section after ] TITLE OF NEW CONTENT Type your content here Valves shall be clearly identified and kept free of obstructions. this additional wording should assist in preventing valves from being buried or paved over. Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 17:09:45 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 34/85

62 Public Input No. 31-NFPA [ Section No ] Valves in the hydrant connection shall Valves required by shall be installed within 20 ft (6.1 m) of the hydrant. Modified for readability Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Thu Dec 13 16:42:54 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 35/85

63 Public Input No. 32-NFPA [ Section No ] Where valves cannot be located in it is impractical to locate valves in accordance with , other valve locations shall be permitted where permitted as approved by the authority having jurisdiction. Modified wording from cannot to impractical. Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Thu Dec 13 16:45:13 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 36/85

64 Public Input No. 33-NFPA [ Section No ] Where local fire department connections do not conform to NFPA 1963, the authority having jurisdiction shall designate the connection to be used. Manual of Style. Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Thu Dec 13 16:55:39 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 37/85

65 Public Input No. 34-NFPA [ Section No ] Where hydrants cannot be located in accordance with 7.2.3, locations closer than 40 ft (12.2 m) from the building or wall hydrants shall be permitted to be used where permitted where approved by the authority having jurisdiction. Renumbered as appropriate and modified wording for readability. Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Thu Dec 13 16:58:47 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 38/85

66 Public Input No. 35-NFPA [ Section No ] Hydrants shall not be installed installed adjacent to retaining walls at less than the equivalent depth of burial from retaining walls where burial found in where there is danger of frost through the walls. Reworded to give user guidance as to where to find burial depths will be renumbered in another PI to conform to manual of style. Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Thu Dec 13 17:05:35 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml Public Input No. 36-NFPA [ Section No. 7.3 ] 7.3 Installation * submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 39/85

67 7.3.1* Hydrants shall be set on flat stones or concrete slabs and shall be provided with small stones (or the equivalent), concrete slabs, or approved equivalent Small stones or an approved equivalent shall be placed about the drain to ensure drainage Where soil is of such a nature that the hydrants hydrant will not drain properly with the arrangement specified in , or where groundwater stands at levels above that of the above the drain, the hydrant drain shall be plugged at the time of installation If Hydrants with the drain is plugged, hydrants that are in service in cold climates shall be pumped out after usage Such hydrants 3 Hydrants with the drain plugged shall be marked to indicate the need for pumping out after usage * The center of a hose outlet shall be not less than 18 in. (457 mm) above final grade or, where located in a hose house, The center of a hose outlet shall not be more than 36 in. (914 mm) above final grade The center of a hose outlet located in a hose house shall not be less than 12 in. (305 mm) above the floor Hydrants shall be fastened to piping and anchored be restrained in accordance with the requirements of Chapter Hydrants shall be protected if subject to mechanical damage The means of hydrant protection shall be arranged in a manner so that it does not interfere with the connection to, or operation of, hydrants the hydrant. submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 40/85

68 7.3.7 The following shall not be installed in the service stub between a fire hydrant and private water supply piping: (1) Check valves (2) Detector check valves (3) Backflow prevention valves (4) Other similar appurtenances Modified numbering to meet manual of style. Added a maximum height requirement that is shown on Annex Figure A (b). Modified wording for readability. Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Fri Dec 14 08:47:58 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 41/85

69 Public Input No. 76-NFPA [ New Section after ] TITLE OF NEW CONTENT Type your content here the center of a hose outlet shall not be greater than 48 in (1.2 m) above final grade, or where located in a hose house, 24 in (610 mm) above the floor. Renumber subsequent sections accordingly. Minimum heights are provided in the previous section. Maximum heights should be provided to prevent installations that prevent proper use of the device. Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 17:11:23 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 42/85

70 Public Input No. 77-NFPA [ Section No ] Hydrants shall be fastened to piping and anchored in accordance with the requirements of Chapter 10. renumbering based on comment provided for new Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 17:13:53 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 43/85

71 Public Input No. 78-NFPA [ Section No ] Hydrants shall be protected if subject to mechanical damage. renumbering based on comment provided for new Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 17:14:51 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 44/85

72 Public Input No. 55-NFPA [ Section No ] The means of hydrant protection shall be arranged in a manner that does not interfere with the connection to, or operation of, hydrants Fire code section states that hydrants subject to impact by motor vehicles, shall be provided with guard posts or other approved means that comply with section 312. Section 312 states that the spacing between posts shall not exceed 4 (four) foot on center and not less than 3 (three) feet from protected object. The demensions stated have been investgated numerous times in the field to confirm that it is not possible to provide the protection required using 4 (four) posts. Currently architects/designers are calling for the use of 4 posts, it is not possible to maintain the 4 foot on center between posts and the 3 foot clearance from the protected object without adding an additional post. This concern is usually handled through the architect of record for the project, but it comes with a change order/additional cost to the owner. Submitter Full Name: Manuel C Rios Organization: Clark County School District Submittal Date: Fri May 17 09:52:50 EDT 2013 I, Manuel C Rios, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Manuel C Rios, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 45/85

73 Public Input No. 79-NFPA [ Section No ] The means of hydrant protection shall be arranged in a manner that does not interfere with the connection to, or operation of, hydrants. renumbering based on comment provided for new Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 17:15:22 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 46/85

74 Public Input No. 80-NFPA [ Section No ] The following shall not be installed in the service stub between a fire hydrant and private water supply piping: (1) Check valves (2) Detector check valves (3) Backflow prevention valves (4) Other similar appurtenances renumbering based on comment provided for new Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 17:16:00 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 47/85

75 Public Input No. 53-NFPA [ Section No ] Hose shall be stored so it is accessible and is protected from the weather by storing Hose shall be permitted to be stored in hose houses or by placing hose reels or hose carriers in weatherproof enclosures. Additional Proposed Changes File Name Open LK_NFPA_ _Proposal_4_of_5.docx Description Approved Cover Sheet This proposed revision editorial in nature, to clarify the intent. It is common practice for some industrial fire brigades to store their hose at their fire halls and/or on their fire trucks, but as written the current text seems to imply that it is mandatory to put the hose in hose houses or on reels or carriers in weatherproof enclosures. Submitter Full Name: Larry Keeping Organization: Professional Loss Control Submittal Date: Mon May 13 13:46:06 EDT 2013 I, Larry Keeping, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Larry Keeping, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 48/85

76 Public Input No. 81-NFPA [ Section No ] Hose houses shall be of substantial construction on foundations stable foundations. adding "stable" ensures that the hose houses are not installed on loose soils Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 17:17:04 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml Public Input No. 38-NFPA [ Section No ] 10.1* Piping Materials * Listing. Piping shall be listed for fire protection service or All piping used in private fire service mains shall be in accordance with Section Piping used in private fire service mains shall comply with the standards in Table submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 49/85

77 Piping not shown in Table shall be specifically listed for use in private fire service mains. Table Manufacturing Standards for Underground Pipe Ductile Iron Materials and Dimensions Cement Mortar Lining for Ductile Iron Pipe and Fittings for Water Polyethylene Encasement for Ductile Iron Pipe Systems Ductile Iron and Gray Iron Fittings, 3 in. Through 48 in., for Water and Other Liquids Rubber-Gask et Joints for Ductile Iron Pressure Pipe and Fittings Flanged Ductile Iron Pipe with Ductile Iron or Gray Iron Threaded Flanges Protective Fusion-Bonded Epoxy Coatings for the Interior and Exterior Surfaces of Ductile-Iron and Gray-Iron Fittings for Water Supply Service Thick ness Design of Ductile Iron Pipe Ductile Iron Pipe, Centrifugally Cast for Water Ductile-Iron Compact Fittings for Water Service Standard for the Installation of Ductile Iron Water Mains and Their Appurtenances Standard AWWA C104 AWWA C105 AWWA C110 AWWA C111 AWWA C115 AWWA C116 AWWA C150 AWWA C151 AWWA C153 AWWA C600 Steel Steel Water Pipe 6 in. and Larger Coal-Tar Protective Coatings and Linings for Steel Water Pipelines Enamel and Tape Hot Applied Cement-Mortar Protective Lining and Coating for Steel Water Pipe 4 in. and Larger Shop Applied Field Welding of Steel Water Pipe Steel Pipe Flanges for Waterworks Service Sizes 4 in. Through 144 in. Dimensions for Fabricated Steel Water Pipe Fittings A Guide for Steel Pipe Design and Installation Concrete Reinforced Concrete Pressure Pipe, Steel-Cylinder Type Prestressed Concrete Pressure Pipe, Steel-Cylinder Type Reinforced Concrete Pressure Pipe, Non-Cylinder Type AWWA C200 AWWA C203 AWWA C205 AWWA C206 AWWA C207 AWWA C208 AWWA M11 AWWA C300 AWWA C301 AWWA C302 submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 50/85

78 Reinforced Concrete Pressure Pipe, Steel-Cylinder Type, Pretensioned AWWA C303 Standard for Asbestos-Cement Distribution Pipe, 4 in. Through 16 in., for Water Distribution Systems Standard for the Selection of Asbestos-Cement Pressure Pipe AWWA C400 AWWA C401 Cement-Mortar Lining of Water Pipe Lines 4 in. and Larger in Place AWWA C602 Standard for the Installation of Asbestos-Cement Water Pipe Plastic Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) Pressure Pipe, 4 in. Through 12 in., for Water Distribution Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) Pressure Pipe, 14 in. Through 48 in., for Water Distribution Polyethylene (PE) Pressure Pipe and Fittings, 4 in. (100 mm) Through 63 in. (1575 mm) for Water Distribution AWWA C603 AWWA C900 AWWA C905 AWWA C906 4 Copper Specification for Seamless Copper Tube Specification for Seamless Copper Water Tube Requirements for Wrought Seamless Copper and Copper-Alloy Tube Steel Pipe. ASTM B 75 ASTM B 88 ASTM B 251 Steel piping pipe shall not be used for general underground service unless in private fire service mains execpt as permitted in and Steel pipe shall be permitted to be used in private fire service whens when specifically listed for such service use Steel Pipe Used with Fire Department Connections. Where externally coated and wrapped and internally galvanized, steel pipe shall 2.2 Steel pipe installed in accordance with shall be permitted to be used between the check valve and the outside hose coupling for the hose coupling(s) on the fire department connection Steel pipe shall be internally galvanized Steel pipe shall be wrapped and coated with approved materials to prevent corrosion * Pipe Type and Class. submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 51/85

79 * Pipe Type and Class. The requirements of shall be considered when selecting the type and class of pipe for a particular underground installation shall be determined through consideration of the following factors: (1) Fire resistance of the pipe (2) Maximum system working pressure (3) Depth at which the pipe is to be installed (4) Soil conditions (5) Corrosion (6) Susceptibility of pipe to other external loads, including earth loads, installation beneath buildings, and traffic or vehicle loads * Working Pressure. Piping, fittings, and other system components shall be rated for the maximum system working pressure to which they are exposed but shall not be rated at less than 150 psi (10 bar) * Lining of Buried Pipe Unless the requirements of are met, all ferrous metal pipe to be used The fire resistance of the pipe shall be considered when piping passes above grade Piping acceptable for underground shall be permitted to extend 24 in. (0.6m) through the floor or wall into the building without regards to The maximum system working pressure shall be considered When a fire department connection is installed, the pressure from the fire department connection shall not be considered as part of the system working pressure The depth of bury of the pipe and susceptibility to earth loads and traffic or vehicle loads shall be considered The type of soil and potential for corrosion shall be considered. submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 52/85

80 * Working Pressure. All pipe used in private fire service mains shall be rated at a minimum of 150 psi (10 bar) When the system working pressure exceeds 150 psi (10 bar), piping shall be rated for the maximum system working pressure * Lining of Buried Pipe Except as permitted in , all ferrous metal piping shall be lined in accordance with the applicable standards in Table Steel pipe utilized in fire department connections and protected in accordance with the requirements of shall not be required to be internally lined. Modified to follow manual of style. Eliminated some repetitive text. Added allowance for piping to extend into building for riser connection to correlate with NFPA 13 ( ). Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Tue Dec 18 08:44:36 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml Public Input No. 59-NFPA [ Section No ] * Listing. Piping shall be listed for fire protection service or shall comply with the standards submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 53/85

81 in Table Table Manufacturing Standards for Underground Pipe Ductile Iron Materials and Dimensions Cement Mortar Lining for Ductile Iron Pipe and Fittings for Water Polyethylene Encasement for Ductile Iron Pipe Systems Ductile Iron and Gray Iron Fittings, 3 in. Through 48 in., for Water and Other Liquids Rubber-Gask et Joints for Ductile Iron Pressure Pipe and Fittings Flanged Ductile Iron Pipe with Ductile Iron or Gray Iron Threaded Flanges Protective Fusion-Bonded Epoxy Coatings for the Interior and Exterior Surfaces of Ductile-Iron and Gray-Iron Fittings for Water Supply Service Thick ness Design of Ductile Iron Pipe Ductile Iron Pipe, Centrifugally Cast for Water Ductile-Iron Compact Fittings for Water Service Standard for the Installation of Ductile Iron Water Mains and Their Appurtenances Standard AWWA C104 AWWA C105 AWWA C110 AWWA C111 AWWA C115 AWWA C116 AWWA C150 AWWA C151 AWWA C153 AWWA C600 Steel Steel Water Pipe 6 in. and Larger Coal-Tar Protective Coatings and Linings for Steel Water Pipelines Enamel and Tape Hot Applied Cement-Mortar Protective Lining and Coating for Steel Water Pipe 4 in. and Larger Shop Applied Field Welding of Steel Water Pipe Steel Pipe Flanges for Waterworks Service Sizes 4 in. Through 144 in. Dimensions for Fabricated Steel Water Pipe Fittings A Guide for Steel Pipe Design and Installation Concrete Reinforced Concrete Pressure Pipe, Steel-Cylinder Type Prestressed Concrete Pressure Pipe, Steel-Cylinder Type Reinforced Concrete Pressure Pipe, Non-Cylinder Type Reinforced Concrete Pressure Pipe, Steel-Cylinder Type, Pretensioned AWWA C200 AWWA C203 AWWA C205 AWWA C206 AWWA C207 AWWA C208 AWWA M11 AWWA C300 AWWA C301 AWWA C302 AWWA C303 submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 54/85

82 Standard for Asbestos-Cement Distribution Pipe, 4 in. Through 16 in., for Water Distribution Systems AWWA C400 Standard for the Selection of Asbestos-Cement Pressure Pipe Cement-Mortar Lining of Water Pipe Lines 4 in. and Larger in Place Standard for the Installation of Asbestos-Cement Water Pipe AWWA C401 AWWA C602 AWWA C603 Plastic Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) Pressure Pipe, 4 in. Through 12 in., for Water Distribution Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) Pressure Pipe, 14 in. Through 48 in., for Water Distribution AWWA C900 AWWA C905 Polyethylene (PE) Pressure Pipe and Fittings, 4 in. (100 mm) Through AWWA 63 in. (1575 mm) for Water Distribution C906 Molecularly Oriented Polyvinyl Chloride (PVCO) Pressure Pipe, 4 IN through24 IN. (100 MM through 600 MM ), for Water Wastewater, and Reclaimed Water Service AWWA C909 Copper Specification for Seamless Copper Tube Specification for Seamless Copper Water Tube Requirements for Wrought Seamless Copper and Copper-Alloy Tube ASTM B 75 ASTM B 88 ASTM B 251 Molecular Modified PVC pipes (PVC-O) have a higher resistance against imoact and water hammer effects. It is not sensitive in installation, also not when installed at low temperatures. So the PVC-O pipe is more robust then our PVC-U and hence it should be included in the list. Related Public Inputs for This Document Open Related Input Public Input No. 60-NFPA [Section No ] Relationship One is related to the reference to the relevant standard., the order to include in the list of material Submitter Full Name: Frans Alferink Organization: Wavin Overseas, The Netherlands / Pavco Colombia Affilliation: S2rEnginieros, Bogota Colombia, Mr. Antonio Yesid Lopez Submittal Date: Thu May 23 12:38:17 EDT 2013 submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 55/85

83 I, Frans Alferink, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Frans Alferink, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml Public Input No. 39-NFPA [ Section No ] 10.2 Fittings. All fittings used in private fire service mains shall be in accordance with section * Buried Buried Fittings. Fittings shall be of an approved type with joints and pressure class ratings All buried fittings used in private fire service mains shall be approved Fittings specifically listed for use in private fire service mains shall be permitted to be used When listed fittings are used, they shall be installed in accordance with their listing limitations, including installation instructions Buried fittings shall have the same pressure class rating as the pipe Buried fittings shall be compatible with the pipe used Standard Fittings. submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 56/85

84 All fittings used in private fire service mains installed aboveground shall be in accordance with Fittings shall meet the standards in Table or shall be in accordance with Table Fittings 2 Fittings Materials and Dimensions Cast Iron Materials and Dimensions Gray Iron Threaded Fittings, Classes 125 and 250 Gray Iron Pipe Flanges and Flanged Fittings, Classes 12, 125, and 250 Malleable Iron Malleable Iron Threaded Fittings, Class 150 and 300 Steel Factory-Made Wrought Steel Buttweld Fittings Buttwelding Ends Specification for Piping Fittings of Wrought Carbon Steel and Alloy Steel for Moderate and Elevated Temperatures Pipe Flanges and Flanged Fittings, NPS 1 2 Through 24 Forged Steel Fittings, Sock et Welded and Threaded Copper Wrought Copper and Bronze Solder Joint Pressure Fittings Cast Bronze Solder Joint Pressure Fittings Standard ASME B16.4 ASME B16.1 ASME B16.3 ASME B16.9 ASME B16.25 ASTM A 234 ASME B16.5 ASME B16.11 ASME B16.22 ASME B16.18 submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 57/85

85 In addition to the standards in Table , CPVC fittings shall also be 3 CPVC fittings shall be in accordance with and with the portions of the ASTM standards specified in Table that apply to fire protection service. Table Specially 3 Specially Listed Fittings Materials and Dimensions Materials and Dimensions Chlorinated Polyvinyl Chloride (CPVC) Specification for Schedule 80 CPVC Threaded Fittings Specification for Schedule 40 CPVC Sock et-type Fittings Specification for Schedule 80 CPVC Sock et-type Fittings Standard ASTM F 437 ASTM F 438 ASTM F Special Listed Fittings 2. Other types of fittings investigated for suitability in automatic sprinkler installations and listed for this service, including, but not limited to, polybutylene, CPVC, and steel differing from that provided in Table 4 Fittings specifically listed for use in fire protection systems shall be permitted to be used When listed fittings are used, they shall be permitted when installed in accordance with their listing limitations, including installation instructions Pressure Limits 3 Working Pressure. Listed fittings shall be permitted for the system pressures as specified in their listings, but not less than All fittings used in private fire service mains shall be rated at a minimum of 150 psi (10 bar) When the system working pressure exceeds 150 psi (10 bar), fittings shall be rated for the maximum system working pressure. Modified for manual of style Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Tue Dec 18 09:49:47 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 58/85

86 By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 59/85

87 Public Input No. 87-NFPA [ Section No ] Pipe under railroad tracks shall be buried at a minimum depth of 4 ft (1.2 m), the owner/operator of the railroad track must be contacted for their requirements. Additional Proposed Changes File Name Open 24_Brown.pdf Description Approved Cover Sheet It is not unusual for a user/operator of a railroad track to require a minimum of 10 ft from top of rail to top of pipe passing under their rail. This could be a very costly error for the installer if they failed to contact the owner/operator of the railroad track. Submitter Full Name: Phillip Brown Organization: American Fire Sprinkler Association Submittal Date: Mon Jun 03 11:19:51 EDT 2013 I, Phillip Brow n, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Phillip Brow n, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml Public Input No. 54-NFPA [ Section No ] submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 60/85

88 13.2 Mains Not Supplying Hydrants. For mains that do not supply hydrants, sizes smaller than 6 in. (152 mm) shall be permitted to be used, subject to the following restrictions: (1) The main shall supply only the following types of systems: (a) (b) (c) (d) (e) Automatic sprinkler systems Open sprinkler systems Water spray fixed systems Foam systems Class II standpipe Standpipe systems (2) Hydraulic calculations shall show that the main is able to supply the total demand at the appropriate pressure. (3) Systems that are not hydraulically calculated shall have a main at least as large as the riser. Additional Proposed Changes File Name Open LK_NFPA_ _Proposal_5_of_5.docx Description Approved Cover Sheet This change is proposed to align 13.2 (e) with the text of (e), which was revised during the last cycle to delete the Class II reference. As discussed then, there should not be a requirement which specifies a 6 minimum water supply for all Class I & III standpipes. NFPA 14 requires that all new standpipes be hydraulically calculated, so this standard should not dictate a minimum size for the private fire service mains that supply them. Submitter Full Name: Larry Keeping Organization: Professional Loss Control Submittal Date: Mon May 13 13:47:41 EDT 2013 I, Larry Keeping, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Larry Keeping, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 61/85

89 Public Input No. 2-NFPA [ New Section after A ] A Examples are outside screw and yoke (OS&Y) gate valves and underground gate valves with indicator posts. Examples belong in the annex. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Open Public Input No. 1-NFPA [Section No ] Relationship Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Wed Dec 12 16:43:47 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 62/85

90 Public Input No. 28-NFPA [ Section No. A ] A Private Fire Hydrant. Where connected to a public water system, the private hydrants are supplied by a private service main that begins at the point of service designated by the authority having jurisdiction, usually at a manually operated valve near the property line. The term "Point of Service" is a legally defined term in the State of Florida. This use of that term causes some confusion. Removing the phrase of service does not change the intent of this section. Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Thu Dec 13 16:25:46 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 63/85

91 Public Input No. 27-NFPA [ Section No. A.4.1 ] A.4.1 Underground mains should be designed so that the system can be extended with a minimum of expense with minimum expense. Possible future plant expansion future expansion should also be considered and the piping designed so that it is not covered by buildings future buildings. Print Reload Page Close Show Modified wording for readability. Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Thu Dec 13 16:23:17 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml Public Input No. 24-NFPA [ Section No. A.5.4 ] submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 64/85

92 A.5.4 Where connections are made from public waterworks systems, such systems should be guarded against possible contamination as follows (see AWWA M14 or local plumbing code or consult the local water purveyor ): (1) For private fire service mains with direct connections from public waterworks mains only or with fire pumps installed in the connections from the street mains, no tanks or reservoirs, no physical connection from other water supplies, no antifreeze or other additives of any kind, and with all drains discharging to atmosphere, dry well, or other safe outlets, an approved double check valve assembly is recommended. (2) For private fire service mains with direct connections from the public water supply main plus one or more elevated storage tanks or fire pumps taking suction from aboveground covered reservoirs or tanks (all storage facilities are filled or connected to public water only, and the water in the tanks is to be maintained in a potable condition), an approved double check valve assembly is recommended. (3) For private fire service mains directly supplied from public mains with an auxiliary water supply, such as a pond or river on or available to the premises and dedicated to fire department use; or for systems supplied from public mains and interconnected with auxiliary supplies, such as pumps taking suction from reservoirs exposed to contamination or rivers and ponds; driven wells, mills, or other industrial water systems; or for systems or portions of systems where antifreeze or other solutions are used, an approved reducedpressure zone-type backflow preventer is recommended. (4) For private fire service mains with fire department connections located within 1750 ft (533.4 m) of a non potable water source, an approved reducedpressure zone-type backflow preventer is recommended. This is an AWWA requirement that is being increasingly enforced. Since this standard includes annex language on backflow prevention, this should be added. Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Thu Dec 13 15:35:10 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 65/85

93 /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml Public Input No. 82-NFPA [ New Section after A.5.6 ] TITLE OF NEW CONTENT Type your content here... A In the selection of screen material, consideration should be given to prevention of fouling from aquatic growth. Antifouling is best accomplished with brass or copper wire. [20: A ] adding the detail on the screens provided consistency with other NFPA standards that address screens on intakes from open bodies of water (NFPA20). Wording is consistent with NFPA 20. Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 17:19:39 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 66/85

94 Public Input No. 25-NFPA [ Section No. A.5.6 ] A.5.6 A fire pump installation consisting of pump, driver, and suction supply, when of adequate capacity and reliability and properly located, makes a good supply makes an acceptable supply. An automatically controlled fire pump taking or pumps taking water from a water main of adequate capacity, or taking draft under a head from a reliable storage of adequate capacity, is permitted to be, under certain conditions, accepted by the authority having jurisdiction as a single supply. Acceptable is a better term than good. added language to indicate that some occupancies will utilize more than one pump. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Open Public Input No. 13-NFPA [Section No. 5.6] Relationship Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Thu Dec 13 15:49:11 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml Public Input No. 83-NFPA [ Section No. A.5.9 ] submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 67/85

95 A.5.9 The fire department connection should be located not less than 18 in. (457 mm) and not more than 4 ft (1.2 m) above the level of the adjacent grade or access level. Typical A typical fire department connections are connection is shown in Figure A.5.9(a) and Figure A. 5.9(b). Where a hydrant is not available, other water supply sources such as a natural body of water, a tank, or a reservoir should be utilized. The water authority should be consulted when a nonpotable water supply is proposed as a suction source for the fire department. Figure A.5.9(a) Typical Fire Department Connection. Figure A.5.9(b) Typical City Water Pit Valve Arrangement with Fire Department Connection. submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 68/85

96 Figure 5.9(a) as currently shown shows a fire department connection supplied by piping interior to a building, which falls under the jurisdiction of NFPA 13. This standard addresses remote fire department connections and as such, removing the figure eliminates confusion on piping of these devices. Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 17:22:59 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 69/85

97 Public Input No. 20-NFPA [ Section No. A ] A Obstructions to fire department connections include, but are not limited to, buildings, fences, posts, landscaping, other fire department connections, gas fire protection equipment, gas meters, and electrical equipment. Additional Proposed Changes File Name Open PIV.jpg Description Approved Blocked FDC It is common to see a Yard PIV obstruct a fire department connection. Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Thu Dec 13 14:52:34 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 70/85

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99 Public Input No. 23-NFPA [ Section No. A ] A Where a fire department connection services multiple buildings, structures, or locations, a sign should shall be provided indicating the buildings, structures, or locations served. This information should not be in the annex. This proposal moves it into the body of the standard. It is understood that fire departments should perform preplanning and know the purpose of the FDC's prior to a fire event. However, a sign indicating such helps facilitate a response at 3:00 am in the morning. Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Thu Dec 13 15:30:57 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 71/85

100 Public Input No. 26-NFPA [ Section No. A (2) ] A (2) Examples for wording of signs are: AUTOSPKR AUTO SPKR OPEN SPKR. STANDPIPE AND STANDPIPE -SPRINKLER DRY STANDPIPE STANDPIPE-AUTO SPKR Updated list with terms commonly found on different manufacturers' websites. Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Thu Dec 13 15:54:43 EST 2012 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 72/85

101 Public Input No. 52-NFPA [ New Section after A ] A A connection to a municipal water supply may utilize a non-indicating tapping sleeve and valve as the valve controlling the water supply. Additional Proposed Changes File Name Open LK_NFPA_ _Proposal_3_of_5.docx Description Approved Cover Sheet During the previous revision cycle the words listed indicating were deleted from This created a conflict whereby and call for listed indicating valves on water supplies, but does not. The proposed text is offered as a resolution to this conflict. Additionally the modification to would require the configuration to be acceptable to the AHJ and the proposed Annex text would offer an explanation for the matter. Also, in the specific reference to sprinklers was revised to water-based fire protection systems, since private fire service mains supply other types of systems as well. Submitter Full Name: Larry Keeping Organization: Professional Loss Control Submittal Date: Mon May 13 13:44:47 EDT 2013 I, Larry Keeping, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Larry Keeping, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml Public Input No. 40-NFPA [ Section No. A ] submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 73/85

102 A The following documents apply to the installation of pipe and fittings: (1) AWWA C603, Standard for the Installation of Asbestos-Cement Pressure Pipe (2) AWWA C600, Standard for the Installation of Ductile-Iron Water Mains and Their Appurtenances (3) AWWA M11, A Guide for Steel Pipe Design and Installation (4) AWWA M41, Ductile Iron Pipe and Fittings (5) Concrete Pipe Handbook, American Concrete Pipe Association (6) Handbook of PVC Pipe, Uni-Bell PVC Pipe Association (7) Installation Guide for Ductile Iron Pipe, Ductile Iron Pipe Research Association (8) Thrust Restraint Design for Ductile Iron Pipe, Ductile Iron Pipe Research Association As there is normally no circulation of water in private fire mains, they require greater depth of covering than do public mains. Greater depth is required in a loose gravelly soil (or in rock) than in compact soil containing large quantities of clay. The recommended depth of cover above the top of underground yard mains is shown in Figure A Figure A Recommended Depth of Cover (in feet) Above Top of Underground Yard Mains. Modify Figure A This program does not allow for easy manipulation of figures so I will explain the change in the substantiation. Currently there are gradient lines separating the bury depths (IE: 2.5-3, 3.5-4, 4.5-5, etc. However, tehre are no clear lines drawn for the following separations (3'-3.5', 4'-4.5', 5'-5.5', 6'-6.5', 7'-7.5'). Either additional lines should be drawn or the numbers north of the existing lines need to be increaded by 6". Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Submittal Date: Thu Jan 17 08:47:10 EST 2013 I, Peter Schw ab, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 74/85

103 By checking this box I affirm that I am Peter Schw ab, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml Public Input No. 61-NFPA [ Section No. A ] A Items such as sidewalks or patios should not be included as they are no different from roadways. See Figure A Figure A Riser Entrance Location. [Replace existing figure with new Figure A ] Additional Proposed Changes File Name Description Approved Open Figure_A tif New figure to replace existing Figure A The figure needs to be revised. The pipe leading up to the transition to the riser does not need to be ductile iron. Any type of acceptable underground should be permitted. This is consistent with the change to NFPA 24 last cycle to allow up to 24 inches of pipe above ground to make the transition to the riser. Submitter Full Name: Roland Asp Organization: National Fire Sprinkler Association submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 75/85

104 Affilliation: NFSA E&S Committee Submittal Date: Fri May 24 16:13:28 EDT 2013 I, Roland Asp, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Roland Asp, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 76/85

105 Public Input No. 84-NFPA [ Section No. A ] A Items such as sidewalks or patios should not be included as they are no different from roadways. See Figure A Figure A Riser Entrance Location. need to provide an annular space around the lead-in piping penetrating the floor to conform with the clearance requirements in NFPA 13 Submitter Full Name: John Campbell Organization: Telgian Corporation Submittal Date: Wed May 29 17:27:54 EDT 2013 I, John Campbell, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am John Campbell, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 77/85

106 Public Input No. 62-NFPA [ Section No. A ] A The individual piping standards should be followed for load and bury depth, accounting for the load and stresses imposed by the building foundation. Figure A shows location where pipe joints would be prohibited. [Revise figure as shown in proposed new Figure A ] Figure A Pipe Joint Location in Relation to Foundation Footings. Additional Proposed Changes File Name Description Approved Open Figure_A tif New Figure A to replace old one The figure needs to be revised. The pipe leading up to the transition to the riser does not need to be ductile iron. Any type of acceptable underground should be permitted. This is consistent with the change to NFPA 24 last cycle to allow up to 24 inches of pipe above ground to make the transition to the riser. Submitter Full Name: Roland Asp Organization: National Fire Sprinkler Association Affilliation: NFSA E&S Committee Submittal Date: Fri May 24 16:17:53 EDT 2013 I, Roland Asp, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 78/85

107 By checking this box I affirm that I am Roland Asp, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright /TerraView/Content/ ditamap/2/C xml submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/viewerpage.jsp 79/85

108 System riser Acceptable Material No fittings Joint restraint Acceptable pipe material F1GL'REA.I0.6.4 Pipe Joint Location in Relation to Founda tion Footings.