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1 NFPA Technical Committee on Fire Code (FCC-AAA) NFPA PRE-FIRST DRAFT MEETING MINUTES June 4-5, 2015 Hilton Orlando Lake Buena Vista Lake Buena Vista, Florida 1. Call to Order. The meeting was called to order by Chair Jeffrey Collins at 8:35 AM, June 4, Self-introductions were made by Committee Members and Guests. TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT NAME REPRESENTING Jeffrey Collins, Chair Palm Beach County Fire/Rescue, Rep. NFPA Fire Service Section Anthony Apfelbeck Altamonte Springs Building/Fire Safety Division, Rep. NFPA Architects, Engineers, & Building Officials Section H. Butch Browning Louisiana Office of State Fire Marshal, Rep. International Association of Fire Chiefs Kenneth Bush Maryland State Fire Marshal s Office F. Tom Fangmann SunCoke Energy, Rep. NFPA Industrial Fire Protection Section Ronald Farr UL LLC Robert Fash Las Vegas Fire & Rescue Sam Francis American Wood Council Andrew Fukuda Honolulu Fire Dept., Rep. International Association of Fire Fighters Reinhard Hanselka aidi, Inc. Sarina Hart Koffel Associates, Inc. Richard Kraus API/Petroleum Safety Consultants Vickie Lovell InterCode Incorporated Wayne Moore JENSEN HUGHES, Rep. Automatic Fire Alarm Association
2 James Peterkin Heery International, Rep. NFPA Health Care Section Catherine Stashak Office of the Illinois State Fire Marshal J. L. (Jim) Tidwell Tidwell Code Consulting, Rep. Fire Equipment Manufacturers Association Wayne Waggoner National Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc. John Chartier, Nonvoting Rhode Island State Fire Marshal, Rep. Northeast Regional Fire Code Development Committee Gregory Harrington, Staff Liaison NFPA GUESTS Kristin Bigda Gregory Cahanin Kelly Nicolello Steven Sawyer Robert Solomon NFPA Cahanin Fire & Code Consulting UL NFPA NFPA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE PRINCIPAL MEMBERS NOT PRESENT (NOT LISTED WHERE ALTERNATE ATTENDED) NAME Scott Adams Daniel Buuck Robert Davidson Sean DeCrane John Devlin Keith Farmer Richard Miller Morton Myers Joseph Navarra John Sharry Randolph Tucker Peter Willse REPRESENTING Park City Fire Service District, Rep. Western Fire Chiefs Association National Association of Home Builders Davidson Code Concepts, LLC City of Cleveland-Division of Fire Aon Fire Protection Engineering The DuPont Company, Inc. Michigan Department of Fire Services City of Chico Fire Dept., Rep. Western Fire Chiefs Association Pepco Holdings Inc., Rep. Edison Electric Institute Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory ccrd partners XL Global Asset Protection Services 3. Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes. The minutes of the October 24, 2013 meeting were approved as submitted. 4. Chair s Report J. Collins. FCC-AAA PRE-FIRST DRAFT Meeting Minutes / Page 2
3 i) The Chair provided an overview of the agenda and discussed the goals of the meeting, including developing draft positions on the public input (PIs) received to this point. The committee will break into task groups to evaluate the applicable PIs. ii) A substantial discussion on the submitted PIs addressing consumer fireworks was held. Several key questions were raised concerning permitted actions this committee could take. It was voted to submit a request from the Chair to the Standards Council to clarify these issues. See attachment, pg New NFPA Extract Policy G. Harrington. Staff reviewed the policy under which extracts are now updated in NFPA standards. For NFPA , all extracts from source documents issued through the Annual-2015 revision cycle will be updated at the First Draft stage. Rather than generating first revisions for each revised paragraph, a single global first revision will be created for each source document. A file will be provided to the committee so the updates can be reviewed for the First Draft Meeting and any needed adjustments can be made. The First Draft will include the updated extracts to that point. For those source standards to be issued subsequent to the Annual-2015 cycle and through the Annual-2017 cycle, global committee inputs will be created for each extract source standard. Changes will be seen at the Second Draft Meeting. 6. NFPA 1124 Withdrawal (TIA ) G. Harrington. Staff reviewed the noted TIA which was necessitated by the withdrawal of NFPA Chapter 60 MAQ Tables (TIA , Errata ) G. Harrington. Staff reviewed the noted TIA and errata which correct errors to the MAQ tables, some of which were production errors, and others due to errors in the source document, NFPA 400. Publication of the 2015 NFPA 1 Fire Code Handbook was delayed to permit the incorporation of the corrected tables. 8. NFPA Preliminary Public Input Review. (Held for break-out task group sessions) 9. Miscellaneous NFPA 1 Items. The six items in Agenda Item 9 were held for review by the applicable task groups. 10. NFPA 1 Task Group Assignments and Breakout Sessions J. Collins. The Chair broke the committee into two task groups to review the public input submitted to date (Agenda Item 8), miscellaneous items (Agenda Item 9), and develop recommended committee actions. Task Group 1 (General): Wayne Moore, Chair; Task Group 2 (Hazardous Materials): Catherine Stashak, Chair. See the attached task group rosters on pg NFPA 1 Task Group Reports. The committee reconvened, and the task group chairs presented their respective task group recommendations for actions on public input (PIs) and first revisions (FRs). The recommendations will be consolidated by staff for review by the full committee at the first draft meeting in October. FCC-AAA PRE-FIRST DRAFT Meeting Minutes / Page 3
4 i) Task Group 1: General W. Moore, Chair a. Recommended actions on PIs were reviewed to be coordinated by staff for the first draft meeting. b. Emergency command center room size requirements recommended FR based on NFPA 5000 criteria. c. Attic draft-stops recommended FR on title of d. Old exception formatting in recommended FR based on staff recommendation. e. Robert Solomon provided an overview of the School Safety, Codes, and Security Workshop held by NFPA in December Details are available at: ii) Task Group 2: Hazardous Materials C. Stashak, Chair a. Recommended actions on PIs were reviewed to be coordinated by staff for the first draft meeting. b. Food trucks task group recommended FR based on PI-168 to address mobile cooking operations. c. Rubberized asphalt melters - task group recommended FR to address. d. Hazards of bulk CO2 systems for carbonated beverage dispensers were discussed. Robert Fash volunteered to submit a public input to address. e. Recommended updates to the NFPA 30B extracts by Peter Willse were accepted and will be acted on as FRs at the first draft meeting. f. The task group recommends adding a new Chapter 55, which will provide a reference to NFPA 56 for cleaning and purging of flammable gas piping systems. This will be acted on as an FR at the first draft meeting. g. Discussion on research laboratories and under which code or standard they are addressed; question as to NFPA 45 applicability. The task group intends to review further and possibly coordinate with other affected standards. h. Energy Storage Systems (ESS) hazard assessment currently under review by the Fire Protection Research Foundation, update to be provided at the first draft meeting. Tony Apfelbeck intends to submit a PI on Ch Other Business. i) It was suggested the online PI system (Terra) should lock out extract text from being revised to prevent users from wasting time submitting revisions on the wrong document. The recommendation will be forwarded to the Terra team at NFPA. FCC-AAA PRE-FIRST DRAFT Meeting Minutes / Page 4
5 ii) iii) Sam Francis provided an update on American Wood Council activities. A final report on buildings under construction is due to be published any time. Sam will submit PIs based on the report as appropriate. Discussion of residential sprinkler systems and large property loss fires (e.g., Edgewood, NJ apartment complex). NFPA to possibly host a workshop later this year to address the myriad issues connected with this topic. Details will be provided when available. 13. Next Meeting. The NFPA First Draft Meeting will be held October 8-9, 2015, in San Diego, California. Details will be distributed when available. 14. Adjournment. The meeting adjourned at 10:00 AM, June 5, FCC-AAA PRE-FIRST DRAFT Meeting Minutes / Page 5
6 Harrington, Greg From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: Jeff P Collins <JPcollin@pbcgov.org> Tuesday, June 30, :39 PM Bellis, Dawn Tony Apfelbeck; Harrington, Greg Standards Council questions from NFPA 1 Committee Ms. Bellis, During the Pre First Draft meeting of the NFPA Technical Committee on Fire Code, a substantive discussion on the subject of retail sale of consumer fireworks was held. NFPA 1 has already received four Public Inputs on this subject (PI closing date is July 6, 2015). The committee developed a set of questions for the Standards Council with the hope they can be answered prior to the First Draft meeting, which is scheduled for October 8 9, The questions are prefaced based on the March 3, 2014 Standards Council Decision (D#14 1). The view of the Technical Committee is that a gap clearly exists with regard to this subject, yet it fully understands the efforts by NFPA and FPRF during the course of the last 16 years. The effect of deleting the criteria for consumer fireworks has created a situation where a facility could potentially be constructed and occupied in compliance with NFPA codes and standards using the basic principles for a mercantile occupancy, but with minimal protection being offered under NFPA 1 and 101. The context of these questions is centered on the portion of the decision that states, in part, no NFPA Committees should develop standards for the storage and retail sales of consumer fireworks or the use of fireworks by members of the public. The Committee is seeking guidance with regard to potential ways to handle the matter moving forward. Specifically, the Committee would like to know if any or all of the following actions or options would be viewed as being consistent or inconsistent with Standards Council Decision (D#14 1.) As the Chair of NFPA 1, I respectfully submit the following questions to hopefully be addressed by the Standards Council at their next meeting: 1. Could NFPA 1 include language that mandates an outright ban on consumer fireworks (sale and use)? 2. Could NFPA 1 include language that states consumer fireworks sales can only be housed in buildings, facilities, or structures that adhere to the performance based design provisions of Chapter 5 of NFPA 1? 3. Could NFPA 1 include Annex language related to that notes consumer fireworks sale and use as being one of the conditions where the AHJ needs to turn to other resources? 4. Could NFPA 1 reference another organization s code or standard that contains specific criteria for storage and retail sales of consumer fireworks, or the use of fireworks by members of the public? As noted, the First Draft meeting is scheduled for October 8 9, 2015, thus it will be appreciated if a response can be provided in time for our meeting. Sincerely, Jeffrey P. Collins, Chair NFPA 1 Fire Code HIPAA NOTE: This conforms to the rules and regulations of the HEALTH INSURANCE PORTABILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY ACT (HIPAA). This may contain HIPAA protected health information, which may include, but is not limited to, patient name, address, billing information, examination or treatment information, or other personal identifiers. All such information must remain confidential, and may only be viewed and utilized by those legally authorized. If such message is received in 1
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8 NFPA TASK GROUPS Task Group 1 (General) Wayne Moore, Chair Tony Apfelbeck Ken Bush Jack Chartier Tom Fangman Sam Francis Andy Fukuda Sarina Hart Vickie Lovell Kelly Nicolello Jim Peterkin Jim Tidwell Task Group 2 (Hazardous Materials) Cathy Stashak, Chair Tony Apfelbeck H. Butch Browning Greg Cahanin Ron Farr Robert Fash Reinhard Hanselka Dick Kraus Kristin Bigda (Nonvoting staff) Steven Sawyer (Nonvoting staff) Robert Solomon (Nonvoting staff) Wayne Waggoner Gregory Harrington (Nonvoting staff)
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