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1 TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON ELECTRONIC SAFETY EQUIPMENT December 10-12, 2013 San Diego, CA AGENDA Tuesday, December 10, :00 a.m. Call to Order - Chairman Bob Athanas 2. Introduction of Members and Guests 3. NFPA Staff Liaison Report - Dave Trebisacci New document timetable NFPA Manual of Style requirements for a draft document Update on the use of SharePoint site CC Update Bill Haskell 4. Approval of the Minutes of the August 6-8, 2013 TC meeting, Denver, CO (attached) 5. Chairman s Remarks 6. Task Group Reports 1982 RF PASS Jeff Hull Intrinsic safety Steve Townsend Physical properties Mike McKenna Environmental testing Mike Feely Feature Set Mike Worrell Investigating new device compatibility Steve Makky Risk vs reward of the use of technology Gordon Sletmoe Commonalities between radio manufacturers Jose Velo 7. Presentations Proposal for Certification Kamil Agi Intrinsic Safety and Hazardous Locations Tim Adam, Paul Kelly Jon Oblak TIA Standards NIST Public Safety Broadband Mike Hussey BSR/UL x PINS Announcement Lou Chavez 8. Breakout sessions

2 FAE-ELS Agenda Page 2 9. New Business Next meeting 10. Adjourn at close of business on Thursday, December 12, 2013.

3 NFPA Technical Committee on Electronic Safety Equipment Pre-First Draft Meeting New Document on Land Mobile Radios Denver, CO August 6-7, 2013 Principal Members in Attendance: Robert Athanas (Chair) Christina Spoons (Secretary) Kamil Agi Joel Berger Matt Bowyer Matthew Busa Lou Chavez John Facella Michael Feely Steve Makky, Sr. Michael McKenna John Morris Anthony Putorti Kevin Roche Gordon Sletmoe Steven Townsend Bruce Varner Jose L. Velo Steven Weinstein Timothy Wolf FDNY/SAFE-IR Inc. Westmont FD K&A Wireless Kenwood USA NIOSH Motorola, Inc. UL RCC Consultants Boston FD APCO Michael McKenna & Associates ISG Infrasys NIST Phoenix FD Medford Fire-Rescue City of Carrollton Fire Rescue BH Varner & Associates San Francisco FD ISEA Scottsdale FD Alternate Members in Attendance: John Jarboe Tim Rehak Kate Remley Gregory Vrablik Grace Industries NIOSH NIST ISEA 1

4 Guests in Attendance: Chris Anaya David Bernzweig Shane Bray Dennis Camell Ed Cortes Robin Gainey Scott Glazer Michael Gomez Beverly Gulledge David Hodson Mike Hussey Ken Link Jim Marquedant Brian Martens Ian Maxwell Steve Miles Rebecca Norwood John Oblak Peter Reed John Rehayem Dan Rossos Benjamin Schaefer Bob Sell Matthew Shannon Russ Soward Mark Stone Rex Strickland Gerry W. Tarver Bill Young CA State Fire Fighters Columbus Fire Fighters MSA NIST ICOM America JFRD/IAFF Thales Communications FDNY Scott Draeger Safety UK Jackson County FD FM Approvals Harris Interspiro NIOSH Harris EF Johnson Technology First Net Otto Engineering TC on Respiratory Protection UL LLC Draeger Safety Scott Safety Denver FD Denver FD Fairfax County Fire & Rescue Tulsa FD NIST 1. Chairman Bob Athanas opened the meeting at 9:17 a.m. on Tuesday, August 6, Attendees introduced themselves and stated their affiliations 3. The Minutes of the March 19-21, 2013 meeting in Fort Lauderdale were approved with one addition. Bill Young (NIST) will be added to the list of attendees in Fort Lauderdale on the online Meeting Minutes. 4. Staff Liaison Dave Trebisacci provided the NFPA report. An overview of NFPA rules and regulations was presented, the new Public Input process was demonstrated, a timeline for submittal of task group reports was discussed, and a proposed timeline for the development of the new LMR standard was provided. 2

5 5. In his Chairman s remarks, Bob Athanas noted an increase in committee membership, and welcomed the participation of all members and guests. The chairman reported on a number of topics that the Correlating Committee was addressing. Two task groups have been formed, one to develop Public Comments to NFPA1952 and NFPA 1953, and one to review the project s protective clothing and equipment documents with respect to possible consolidation, structure and cycle changes. The Supplemental Operating Procedures for Test Method Validation are also continuing to progress towards approval by the NFPA Standards Council. The Chair also updated the TC on the recent TIAs to NFPA 1981 and NFPA Chairman Athanas solicited input on the possibility of devices and technology that may fall under this committee that may be used as a potential detonation mechanism for secondary explosive devices. He appointed the following task group to look into this: Task Group on Risk vs. Reward of the Use of Technology Gordon Sletmoe - Chair Jack Jarboe John Facella Kate Remley Matthew Shannon Ken Link Kamil Agi Bill Young Mike Hussey The purpose is to look at where we are and where we are headed and to determine if this is even an issue. The TG is to look at additional groups or resources that may have already worked on these issues (public, commercial, military), and look at UK experience and planning; there is a lot out there. 7. Peter Reed provided an overview of the First Net project. NFPA 1802 LMR Task Group reports were provided as follows (see following pages for task group member list): Kate Remley RF PASS update on test methods for next revision of NFPA 1982 Steve Townsend Intrinsic safety Mike McKenna Physical properties Mike Feeley Environmental testing Mike Gomez Feature set Bruce Varner Investigating new device compatibility 3

6 8. In an effort to provide a foundation for the standard and to better understand where the LMR industry is at with regard to testing and standards and their commonalities, Chairman Athanas asked that a task group be formed to include all the radio manufacturers to determine: 1. What testing is done 2. To what standard 3. Who does the testing 4. Who certifies the results This TG is to report its findings and recommendations to the committee. TG on Commonalities Between Radio Manufacturers Jose Velo Chair Mike McKenna Representatives from ALL radio manufacturers 9. Dan Rossos, Chairman of the Technical Committee on Respiratory Protection Equipment, updated the committee on the NFPA 1981 TIA and the continued coordination between the two committees with respect to interoperability. 10. The next meeting of the technical committee was scheduled for December 10-12, Probable location is San Diego. 11. The meeting was adjourned on Wednesday, August 7 at 5:30 p.m. Respectfully submitted, David Trebisacci NFPA Staff Liaison 4

7 NFPA 1802 Task Groups and Members Intrinsic Safety Steve Townsend - Chair Sandy Florence Tim Rehak FM representative UL representative Intertek representative Wayne Haase (possible) Steve Weinstein Physical Properties (knobs, buttons, displays, antenna, case, microphone) Mike McKenna - Chair Jose Velo John Rehayem Matt Boyer Steve Weinstein Matt Busa Ed Cortes John Oblak Rex Strickland Environmental Testing Mike Feely - Chair Craig Gestler and John Morris co-chairs Rick Honeywell Matt Shannon or Craig Parkulo UL representative Intertek representative FM representative Kate Remley Tony Putorti Jim Rose Charlie Kline Jeffrey Hull 5

8 Feature Set (Programmable features of radios that may include which buttons and switches perform dedicated functions such as on-off switch, emergency button, audio output etc.) Mike Worrell - Chair Mike Gomez John Oblak Gerry Tarver Rebecca Wynn Tim Wolfe Matt Busa James Greene Investigating New Device Compatibility Steve Makky, Sr. - Chair Bruce Varner John Facella Steve Townsend Risk vs. Reward of the Use of Technology Gordon Sletmoe - Chair Jack Jarboe John Facella Kate Remley Matthew Shannon Ken Link Kamil Agi Bill Young Mike Hussey Commonalities Between Radio Manufacturers Jose Velo - Chair Mike McKenna Representatives from ALL radio manufacturers 6

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