Page 1 of 13 Public Comment No. 7-NFPA 30A-2013 [ Section No. 6.4.2 ] 6.4.2 Additional Proposed Changes Each pump shall have installed on the discharge side a listed leak detection device that will provide an audible or visible indication restricts or shuts off the flow of product if the piping or a dispenser is leaking. Each leak-detecting device shall be checked and tested at least annually according to the manufacturer's specifications to ensure proper installation and operation. Exception : A leak detection device shall not be required if all piping is visible. File Name 30A_Ralston_6.4.2.docx Description Approved Cover Sheet The wording in this section of the code makes it impossible to comply with. No leak detector installed on the discharge side of the pump provides an audible or visible alarm. Line leak detectors used on remote submersible pumps are not capable of sounding an audible or visible alarm, they use a pressure differential in the piping to either restrict the flow of product to the dispenser (mechanical line leak detectors) or shut off the flow of product (electronic line leak detectors). Submitter Full Name: ALEX RALSTON Organization: PETCON INC Submittal Date: Tue Apr 23 08:30:19 EDT 2013 Committee Rejected but held Resolution: Public Comment No. 7 proposes a change to a paragraph in NFPA 30A that was not amended at the First Draft stage of this revision cycle. To accept this change would effect an amendment to the Code without its having undergone public review and comment. Therefore, in accordance with Paragraphs 4.4.4.2 and 4.4.8.3 of the Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA Standards, the Technical Committee has voted to reject Public Comment No. 7 and hold it for processing as a Public Input at the next document revision cycle.
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Page 3 of 13 Public Comment No. 4-NFPA 30A-2013 [ Sections 6.7.1, 6.7.2 ] Sections 6.7.1, 6.7.2 6.7.1 At attended motor fuel dispensing facilities, the devices or disconnects shall be readily accessible to the attendant and labeled with an approved sign stating EMERGENCY FUEL SHUTOFF.. 6.7.2 At unattended motor fuel dispensing facilities, the devices or disconnects shall be readily accessible to patrons and at least one additional device or disconnect shall be readily accessible to each group of dispensing devices on an individual island. The device(s) or disconnect(s) shall be labeled with an approved sign stating EMERGENCY FUEL SHUTOFF. Shut-offs should be labeled as to their operation so they can be easily identified by attendants and/or patrons that may be required to use them. Submitter Full Name: Doug Hohbein Organization: Northcentral Fire Code Develop Submittal Date: Tue Apr 02 22:00:55 EDT 2013 Committee Rejected but held Resolution: Public Comment No. 4 proposes a change to a paragraph in NFPA 30A that was not amended at the First Draft stage of this revision cycle. To accept this change would effect an amendment to the Code without its having undergone public review and comment. Therefore, in accordance with Paragraphs 4.4.4.2 and 4.4.8.3 of the Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA Standards, the Technical Committee has voted to reject Public Comment No. 4 and hold it for processing as a Public Input at the next document revision cycle.
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Page 5 of 13 Public Comment No. 1-NFPA 30A-2013 [ Section No. 7.4.6 ] 7.4.6 Fixed Fire Protection. Automatic sprinkler protection installed in accordance with the requirements of NFPA 13, Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems, shall be provided in major repair garages, as herein defined, when any of the following conditions exist: (1) The building housing the major repair garage is two or more stories in height (1) levels, including basements, and any one of the floors exceeds 930 m 2 (10,000 ft 2 ) story (1) the aggregate area of all levels combined exceeds 12000 ft2. (2) The major repair garage is one (1) level and exceeds 1115 m 2 (12,000 ft 2 ). (2) The major repair garage is servicing vehicles parked in the basement of the building. Subsection 1 should clarify that the requirement applies to the entire building; the entire building does not have to be used as a repair garage to utilize this requirement. The current language of section 1 would allow a large area without sprinkler protection. (Example: 3 story building, 9,000 ft² per floor would not require sprinkler protection) Submitter Full Name: Doug Hohbein Organization: Northcentral Fire Code Develop Submittal Date: Tue Apr 02 21:54:45 EDT 2013
Page 6 of 13 Committee Rejected but held Resolution: Public Comment No. 1 proposes a change to a paragraph in NFPA 30A that was not amended at the First Draft stage of this revision cycle. To accept this change would effect an amendment to the Code without its having undergone public review and comment. Therefore, in accordance with Paragraphs 4.4.4.2 and 4.4.8.3 of the Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA Standards, the Technical Committee has voted to reject Public Comment No. 1 and hold it for processing as a Public Input at the next document revision cycle. I, Doug Hohbein, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of By checking this box I affirm that I am Doug Hohbein, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by
Page 7 of 13 Public Comment No. 2-NFPA 30A-2013 [ New Section after 9.2.5.4 ] 9.2.5.5* Display of Materials. The storage or placement for display or sale of combustibles shall be prohibited within 20 feet of a fuel dispenser. Display material obstructs the view of the attendant and adds a fuel load that is not needed in the area of the fuel dispensers. Submitter Full Name: Doug Hohbein Organization: Northcentral Fire Code Develop Submittal Date: Tue Apr 02 21:58:08 EDT 2013 Committee Rejected but held Resolution: Public Comment No. 2 proposes a change to a paragraph in NFPA 30A that was not amended at the First Draft stage of this revision cycle. To accept this change would effect an amendment to the Code without its having undergone public review and comment. Therefore, in accordance with Paragraphs 4.4.4.2 and 4.4.8.3 of the Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA Standards, the Technical Committee has voted to reject Public Comment No. 2 and hold it for processing as a Public Input at the next document revision cycle. I, Doug Hohbein, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of By checking this box I affirm that I am Doug Hohbein, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by
Page 8 of 13 Public Comment No. 6-NFPA 30A-2013 [ Section No. 12.2.1 ] 12.2.1 The installation and use of CNG and hydrogen systems shall meet the requirements of NFPA 52, Vehicular Gaseous Fuel Systems Code, except as modified by this chapter. The installation and use of LNG systems shall meet the requirements of NFPA 52, Vehicular Gaseous Fuel Systems Code, except as modified by this chapter. The installation and use of LP-Gas systems shall meet the requirements of NFPA 58, Liquefied Petroleum Gas Code, except as modified by this chapter. The installation and use of hydrogen systems shall meet the requirements of NFPA 2, Hydrogen Technologies Code, except as modified by this chapter. Requirements for Hydrogen fueled vehicles in now in NFPA 2 not NFPA 52. Submitter Full Name: Douglas Horne Organization: DBHorne LLC Affilliation: Clean Vehicle Education Foundation Submittal Date: Thu Apr 04 08:34:31 EDT 2013 Committee Accepted Resolution: SR-1-NFPA 30A-2013 Statement: The Technical Committee agrees with the public comment. See also Second Revisions Nos. 2, 3, and 4.
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Page 10 of 13 Public Comment No. 5-NFPA 30A-2013 [ Section No. 13.2.3.9 ] 13.2.3.9 Tanks that have top openings only shall be mounted and equipped as follows: (1) * Stationary tanks shall be mounted on concrete, steel, or masonry supports at least 150 mm (6 in.) in height so as to protect the bottom of the tank from corrosion due to contact with the ground and to maintain the tank in a stable position. (2) Movable tanks shall be equipped with attached metal legs that rest on shoes or runners designed so that the tank is supported in a stable position and so that the tank and its supports can be moved as a single unit. (3) Tanks shall be equipped with a tightly and permanently attached approved pumping device having an approved hose and nozzle. (4) Each component of dispensing systems for Class I liquids shall be listed. (5) The dispenser nozzle and hose shall be designed so they can be padlocked to the hanger to prevent tampering. (6) The pump discharge shall be equipped with an effective antisiphoning device, or the discharge hose shall be equipped with an approved self-closing nozzle. (7) Siphons or internal pressure discharge devices shall be prohibited. (8) Tanks shall have non-porous containment protection equal ½ of the total volume of the tank. Due to the lack of local enforcement on farms and remote areas, the requirement for capture of flammable liquids must be required to contain and prevent potential fires to humans, grass, equipment, buildings, and out structures that may be located adjacent to such tanks. Protection of the surrounding area and ground water from flammable liquids will increase overall safety. Submitter Full Name: Doug Hohbein Organization: Northcentral Fire Code Develop Submittal Date: Tue Apr 02 22:03:05 EDT 2013
Page 11 of 13 Committee Rejected but held Resolution: Public Comment No. 5 proposes a change to a paragraph in NFPA 30A that was not amended at the First Draft stage of this revision cycle. To accept this change would effect an amendment to the Code without its having undergone public review and comment. Therefore, in accordance with Paragraphs 4.4.4.2 and 4.4.8.3 of the Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA Standards, the Technical Committee has voted to reject Public Comment No. 5 and hold it for processing as a Public Input at the next document revision cycle. I, Doug Hohbein, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of By checking this box I affirm that I am Doug Hohbein, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by
Page 12 of 13 Public Comment No. 3-NFPA 30A-2013 [ New Section after A.9.2.5.4 ] A.9.2.5.5 Many self-service stations display items such as wood, bagged ground cover, cartons of consumable products and other combustibles that create vision obstructions, excessive fire load and other hazards in and around dispensing islands and pumps. Display material obstructs the view of the attendant and adds a fuel load that is not needed in the area of the fuel dispensers. Submitter Full Name: Doug Hohbein Organization: Northcentral Fire Code Develop Submittal Date: Tue Apr 02 21:59:28 EDT 2013 Committee Rejected but held Resolution: Public Comment No. 3 proposes a change to a paragraph in NFPA 30A that was not amended at the First Draft stage of this revision cycle. To accept this change would effect an amendment to the Code without its having undergone public review and comment. Therefore, in accordance with Paragraphs 4.4.4.2 and 4.4.8.3 of the Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA Standards, the Technical Committee has voted to reject Public Comment No. 3 and hold it for processing as a Public Input at the next document revision cycle. The Technical Committee also points out that, as submitted, this Public Comment would add an annex statement to a paragraph that does not exist. The Technical Committee suggests that the submitter resubmit this change as a Public Input during the next document revision cycle and to either resubmit it in the form a code requirement or identify an appropriate code section to which the annex statement can be connected. I, Doug Hohbein, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of
Page 13 of 13 By checking this box I affirm that I am Doug Hohbein, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by