Page 1 of 46 Public Input No. 17-NFPA 13E-2013 [ New Section after 3.2.4 ] New 3.2.5 Pressure-Reducing Valve. A valve designed for the purpose of reducing the downstream water pressure under both flowing (residual) and non-flowing (static) conditions. Adding to definitions to help with understanding new sections added to this standard. Submitter Full Name: Ryan Rossing Organization: Portland Fire & Rescue Submittal Date: Wed Jan 02 16:54:53 EST 2013 Resolution: FR-14-NFPA 13E-2013 Statement: The committee added the definition of Pressure Requlating Device and is making the term consistent in the document. I, Ryan Rossing, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Ryan Rossing, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 2 of 46 Public Input No. 22-NFPA 13E-2013 [ New Section after 3.2.4 ] Pressure-Relief Device. A device designed to open to prevent a rise of internal fluid pressure in excess of a specified value due to exposure to emergency or abnormal conditions. Adding to definitions to help with understanding new sections added to this standard. Submitter Full Name: Ryan Rossing Organization: Portland Fire & Rescue Submittal Date: Wed Jan 02 17:21:00 EST 2013 Resolution: See FR 14. I, Ryan Rossing, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Ryan Rossing, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 3 of 46 Public Input No. 24-NFPA 13E-2013 [ New Section after 3.2.4 ] Pressure-Restricting Device. A valve or device designed for the purpose of reducing the downstream water pressure under flowing (residual) conditions only. Adding to definitions to help with understanding new sections added to this standard. Submitter Full Name: Ryan Rossing Organization: Portland Fire & Rescue Submittal Date: Wed Jan 02 17:24:45 EST 2013 Resolution: See FR 14. I, Ryan Rossing, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Ryan Rossing, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 4 of 46 Public Input No. 25-NFPA 13E-2013 [ New Section after 3.2.6 ] System Demand. The flow rate and residual pressure required from a water supply, measured at the point of connection of a water supply to a standpipe system, to deliver the total water flow rate and the minimum residual pressures required for a standpipe system at the hydraulically most remote hose, and the minimum water flow rate for sprinkler connections, on combined systems. Adding to definitions to help with understanding new sections added to this standard. Submitter Full Name: Ryan Rossing Organization: Portland Fire & Rescue Submittal Date: Wed Jan 02 17:26:55 EST 2013 Resolution: The term system demand is not used in the body of the document. I, Ryan Rossing, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Ryan Rossing, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 5 of 46 Public Input No. 9-NFPA 13E-2012 [ Section No. 4.1.2 ] 4.1.2 The fire department should correct these situations by implementing effective departmental pre-incident planning, inspections, and other appropriate actions and by performing an appropriate maintenance and testing program on the installed system. The use of sprinkler systems initially designed for a lowheat-release product or intended only to accommodate low storage when a change has been made to a high-heat commodity, a significantly increased storage height, or new storage configurations can result in unsuccessful sprinkler performance, so the fire department or authority having jurisdiction should take steps to correct such problems. NFPA 25 and model fire codes hold the owner responsible for the maintenance of fire protection systems. NFPA 25 also requires individuals who service these systems to have appropriate experience and expertise which fire department personnel often would not have. A fire department inspection would identify a system that is not being maintained, after which the owner should be required to have the appropriate service performed. Submitter Full Name: Bill Galloway Organization: Southern Regional Fire Code De Submittal Date: Tue Aug 28 15:49:47 EDT 2012 Resolution: FR-1-NFPA 13E-2013 Statement: NFPA 25 and model fire codes hold the owner responsible for the maintenance of fire protection systems. NFPA 25 also requires individuals who service these systems to have appropriate experience and expertise which fire department personnel often would not have. A fire department inspection would identify a system that is not being maintained, after which the owner should be required to have the appropriate service performed. I, Bill Galloway, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Bill Galloway, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 6 of 46 Public Input No. 10-NFPA 13E-2012 [ Section No. 4.2.2 ] 4.2.2 The company assigned primary responsibility for charging the sprinkler connection during pre-incident planning or annual inspections should hook up to the fire department connection to verify hose thread compatibility. The system should also be tested with air or water to verify integrity. Fire department personnel do not have the training, expertise, or equipment to provide this service. Additionally, such testing can have negative effects on a system. Introducing fresh air or water to a system on a regular basis can speed up corrosion. Air should never be used to test systems with plastic piping. Submitter Full Name: Bill Galloway Organization: Southern Regional Fire Code De Submittal Date: Tue Aug 28 15:51:35 EDT 2012 Resolution: FR-2-NFPA 13E-2013 Statement: Fire department personnel do not have the training, expertise, or equipment to provide this service. Additionally, such testing can have negative effects on a system. Introducing fresh air or water to a system on a regular basis can speed up corrosion. Air should never be used to test systems with plastic piping. I, Bill Galloway, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Bill Galloway, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 7 of 46 Public Input No. 6-NFPA 13E-2012 [ Section No. 4.4.4 ] 4.4.4 Where appropriate, the fire department should assist in restoring the sprinkler system. Because actions to restore a sprinkler system can present potential consequences for improper or negligent actions, each fire department should review its policy on this matter. Sprinklers that were exposed to high heat conditions during a fire should be examined by a qualified sprinkler installer and replaced as needed. This sentence gives direction to the local fire department. Local policy, liability, and other significant factors may prohibit local fire departments from assisting with putting the system back in service. Leaving this sentence out allows the direction to come from the second sentence that provides the option of assisting, depending upon local policies. Submitter Full Name: Kelly Nicolello Organization: Western Regional Fire Code Dev Submittal Date: Thu Aug 16 11:42:04 EDT 2012 Resolution: The existing text does not preclude or require anyone from restoring systems if the fire department wishes. I, Kelly Nicolello, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Kelly Nicolello, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 8 of 46 Public Input No. 3-NFPA 13E-2012 [ New Section after 4.4.5.1 ] 4.4.5.2 When a sprinkler system is out of service for more than 4 hours in a 24 -hour period, the AHJ shall be permitted to require the building to be evacuated or an approved fire watch to be provided for all portions left unprotected by the fire protection systems shutdown until the fire protection system has been returned to service. This statement gives the AHJ the authority to require a fire watch after the activation of a sprinkler system if the system cannot be restored. This language mirrors the language in other NFPA documents concerning fire protection systems and fire watch procedures. Submitter Full Name: Doug Hohbein Organization: Northcentral Fire Code Develop Submittal Date: Thu Aug 16 09:41:36 EDT 2012 Resolution: This is a training document not an operations document. I, Doug Hohbein, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Doug Hohbein, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 9 of 46 Public Input No. 7-NFPA 13E-2012 [ Section No. 4.4.5.1 ] 4.4.5.1 If the sprinkler system cannot be restored to operating condition by the time the fire department leaves the premises, the code enforcement and fire prevention authorities should be promptly notified of the structure's noncompliance status. The fire department and code enfocement should consider a fire watch depending on conditions. The building owner or representative should also be notified. When the system is down, depending on conditions and circumstances, a fire watch may be necessary to maintain the level of risk and allow the business to continue to operate. Submitter Full Name: Kelly Nicolello Organization: Western Regional Fire Code Dev Submittal Date: Thu Aug 16 11:43:17 EDT 2012 Resolution: FR-4-NFPA 13E-2013 Statement: When the system is down, depending on conditions and circumstances, a fire watch may be necessary to maintain the level of risk and allow the business to continue to operate. I, Kelly Nicolello, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Kelly Nicolello, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 10 of 46 Public Input No. 8-NFPA 13E-2012 [ Section No. 4.5.2 ] 4.5.2 Past incident analysis of the fire department operations and the performance of the automatic sprinkler system should be reported to improve future operations at sprinklered properties. The following information should be gathered to use in the analysis process: (1) Location of operating sprinklers (2) Number of sprinklers operating (3) Result of sprinkler operation (4) Reason for any unsatisfactory operation (5) Employee assigned to check control valve (6) Whether the fire department connected to the sprinkler system and, if not, the reason (7) Company and engine number that connected to the sprinkler system (8) Number of hose lines used (9) Size of hose lines used [Some departments now use large diameter hose (LDH) lines to supply fire department connections.] (10) Whether water was pumped into the system; if so, for how long and at what pressure, any issues with the backflow device or prv's (11) Whether the valve was closed after the fire, and which employee ordered that the valve be closed (12) Number of sprinklers replaced by the fire department (13) Type of sprinklers installed (14) Whether sprinkler protection was fully restored and by whom (15) Actions taken to restore service (16) Whether the private water supply to sprinklers operated satisfactorily (17) Whether the fire prevention bureau was notified (18) Whether the representative of management was notified as well as the names of the employee making notification and of those notified All devices and operating components of the system should be included in the report as to their function, whether the component operated correctly or failed. This will assure the reviewers of the report that those components were not overlooked. Submitter Full Name: Kelly Nicolello Organization: Western Regional Fire Code Dev Submittal Date: Thu Aug 16 11:45:58 EDT 2012

Page 11 of 46 Resolution: FR-5-NFPA 13E-2013 Statement: All devices and operating components of the system should be included in the report as to their function, whether the component operated correctly or failed. This will assure the reviewers of the report that those components were not overlooked. I, Kelly Nicolello, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Kelly Nicolello, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 12 of 46 Public Input No. 2-NFPA 13E-2012 [ Section No. 4.6.1 ] 4.6.1 Fire department personnel should study occupancies with a wide variety of configurations and a wide range of storage commodities to determine whether there is a need for special procedures, particularly where storage heights are in excess of 3.66 m (12 ft) because, in some cases, routine ventilation procedures in the early stages of a fire can hinder effective sprinkler operation. The fire department should discuss its pre-incident plan for these types of occupancies with the occupant, sprinkler sprinkler system designer, and insurance carrier to determine whether a modification in procedures is appropriate. Originally I was planning on inserting fire protection engineer but that may not be appropriate in all cases. The use of the phrase "sprinkler system designer" should include fire protection engineers where they are involved in the design. However, the phrase "sprinkler designer" is not correct in that it is the designer of the system not the sprinkler that should be consulted. Submitter Full Name: William Koffel Organization: Koffel Associates, Inc. Submittal Date: Wed Aug 08 22:50:33 EDT 2012 Resolution: FR-6-NFPA 13E-2013 Statement: The use of the phrase "sprinkler system designer" should include fire protection engineers where they are involved in the design. However, the phrase "sprinkler designer" is not correct in that it is the designer of the system not the sprinkler that should be consulted. The TC wants english units first within the documents. I, William Koffel, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am William Koffel, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 13 of 46 Public Input No. 18-NFPA 13E-2013 [ Section No. 6.1.6 ] 6.1.6 Pressure-regulation devices should 6* Standpipe hose outlets should be tested annually for proper operation by opening and closing. Pressure regulating devices would typically not be installed on manual standpipes. Clarifying the difference in testing requirements for manual standpipe outlets. Later sections being added define manual standpipe and automatic standpipes with fire pumps are completely different and need different information. Submitter Full Name: Ryan Rossing Organization: Portland Fire & Rescue Submittal Date: Wed Jan 02 16:59:40 EST 2013 Resolution: FR-7-NFPA 13E-2013 Statement: Clarifying that valves should be checked to ensure they can be opened and closed. I, Ryan Rossing, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Ryan Rossing, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 14 of 46 Public Input No. 20-NFPA 13E-2013 [ Section No. 6.3 ] 6.3 Fireground Operations Involving Properties Protected by Manual Dry or Manual Wet Standpipe Systems. 6.3.1* Fire department personnel should carefully plan operations in properties protected by standpipe systems designed to supply fire department hose streams. These procedures should be similar to operations in buildings protected by automatic sprinklers. 6.3.2 Standpipes should be utilized when fires occur on floors above the reach of ground or aerial ladders and when valuable time will be lost in stretching lines up stairways. Careful pre-incident and on-scene fireground planning should be performed to ensure successful operations. 6.3.3 3* Where standpipe systems provide fire department connections, lines from a pumper supplied by a water main should be connected and charged to the pressure required to give the desired working pressure on the standpipe outlets being used. Where several independent standpipes are available for fire department use in the fire area, each standpipe should be charged. (See Figure 6.3.3.) Figure 6.3.3 Standpipe Connection. 6.3.4* Fire Department Standpipe Connections and Pump Discharge Pressure Pressures for Manual Dry or Manual Wet Standpipes. 6.3.4.1

Page 15 of 46 When pumping to a fire department standpipe connection, the pump operator should consider the following factors in calculating pump discharge pressure: (1) Friction loss in the hose line between the pump and the standpipe connection (2) Friction loss in the standpipe system (3) Pressure loss due to elevation of the nozzle(s) (4) Number and size of attack lines operating from the standpipe (5) Pressure desired at the nozzle(s) 6.3.4.2 Pump discharge pressure in excess of 14 bar (200 psi) should not be used unless the standpipe system has been designed to withstand higher pressures. Fire suppression personnel should be familiar with options and acceptable practices available to them in response to varying configurations and locations of standpipe outlets. 6.3.5 Hose or house lines attached to standpipe outlets should not be used except in the case of extreme emergency. Fire personnel should provide hose and nozzles of appropriate size and length along with proper accessory equipment for the anticipated fire conditions. 6.3.6 Limitations of communication devices, as well as the essential ability to maintain effective portable radio communications between the incident command post and officers on the upper floors, should be identified and resolved during pre-incident planning. 6.3.7 Where private water supplies serve the standpipe system, fire personnel should make certain that supply valves are open and private fire pumps, if any, are operating properly. 6.3.8 Before proceeding up stairs, fire personnel should ensure that all hose outlet valves on lower floors are closed. Clarifying that when a standpipe is "manual-wet, auto-sprinkler" the fire department still has to pump the standpipe to supply hoselines, even though it is wet just for sprinkler operation from residual water pressure. Submitter Full Name: Ryan Rossing Organization: Portland Fire & Rescue Submittal Date: Wed Jan 02 17:15:59 EST 2013

Page 16 of 46 Resolution: FR-8-NFPA 13E-2013 Statement: Clarifying that when a standpipe is "manual-wet, auto-sprinkler" the fire department still has to pump the standpipe to supply hoselines, even though it is wet just for sprinkler operation from residual water pressure. Added section on deploying hoslines, selection of hose and nozzles, When to use standpipes and how to supply water to standpipe systems. I, Ryan Rossing, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Ryan Rossing, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 17 of 46 Public Input No. 14-NFPA 13E-2012 [ New Section after 6.3.8 ] 6.3.9 Fire departments should operate hoselines from standpipe hose valves on the floor below the fire in high rise, and in areas remote from the emergency in other standpipe-equipped structures. Firefighters should connect and deploy hoselines from standpipe hose valves outside of any immediately dangerous to life and health (IDLH) environment to ensure the safety and operational effectiveness of all fire department personnel whenever it is possible to do so. Additional Proposed Changes File Name Description Approved 13E_PI_Log1_F2014.pdf Supporting material Firefighters have been killed and injured when trying to utilize standpipe hose valves on the fire floor in high-rises due to the rapidly deteriorating conditions that may occur. It is a common operating practice taught in the majority of fire instructional texts to utilize the standpipe connection below the fire floor in high rises. This additional new text will help codify this common practice as the preferred use of standpipes for fire department operations. Note: Supporting material is available for review at NFPA Headquarters. Submitter Full Name: CHRISTOPHER WANKA Organization: College Park VFD Submittal Date: Fri Dec 07 09:56:11 EST 2012 Resolution: See FR8. I, CHRISTOPHER WANKA, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Input (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Input in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Input and that I have full power and authority to enter into this By checking this box I affirm that I am CHRISTOPHER WANKA, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 18 of 46 Public Input No. 15-NFPA 13E-2012 [ New Section after 6.3.8 ] 6.3.10.1 Fire departments operating in standpipe equipped buildings shall utilize appropriate sized hoselines based upon their required pre-incident planning for these structures. Firefighters should base this decision upon necessary fire flows for the hazard of the building, conditions at the time of the incident, and operational capabilities of the system. Fire departments must be cognizant of the possibility of low operating pressures, and possible debris obstructions as just some of the hazards that may warrant the choosing of a larger hoseline of 2-1/2 in. for initial fire department operations from a standpipe system. The AHJ has the ultimate decision in regards to fire department hoseline selection for use when operating from standpipes. Firefighters have been killed and injured in multiple fires throughout American history due to improper hoseline use at high-rise fires. Fires such as occurred at One Meridian Plaza demonstrate the importance of choosing the proper hoselines and nozzles to ensure adequate fire flows are obtained from a standpipe hose valve. The use of PRV's is previously discussed in this chapter, but the actual size of the hoseline, and type of nozzle used are not discussed anywhere else in this document. In addition, this topic is discussed in NFPA 14, in the explanatory material. Submitter Full Name: CHRISTOPHER WANKA Organization: College Park VFD Submittal Date: Fri Dec 07 09:57:56 EST 2012 Resolution: See FR8. I, CHRISTOPHER WANKA, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Input (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Input in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Input and that I have full power and authority to enter into this By checking this box I affirm that I am CHRISTOPHER WANKA, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 19 of 46 Public Input No. 16-NFPA 13E-2012 [ New Section after 6.3.8 ] 6.3.10.2 Fire departments operating in standpipe equipped buildings shall utilize the appropriate nozzles for their hoselines to be used when operating off. Consideration should be taken to the required fire flows, fire hose & nozzles to be used with the standpipe system, and fire department staffing resources available for standpipe operations. Smooth-bore nozzles are the preferred style of nozzle to be utilized when operating hoselines from standpipe systems. Smooth-bore nozzles allow for the passage of small pieces of debris that may be present in a standpipe system, and allow for greater fire flows (gpm) at lower operating pressures which may be present when operating from a fire department standpipe. Firefighters have been killed and injured in multiple fires throughout American history due to improper hoseline use at high-rise fires. Fires such as occurred at One Meridian Plaza demonstrate the importance of choosing the proper hoselines and nozzles to ensure adequate fire flows are obtained from a standpipe hose valve. The use of PRV's is previously discussed in this chapter, but the actual size of the hoseline, and type of nozzle used are not discussed anywhere else in this document. NFPA 14 only requires a minimum discharge pressure from the most remote outlet to be 100 psi, which almost guarantees a low operating pressure from a standpipe system. Therefore, fire departments must adequately pre-plan their hazards and standpipe system to allow them to make an educated and informed choice for their hoselines to be used from these systems. Submitter Full Name: CHRISTOPHER WANKA Organization: College Park VFD Submittal Date: Fri Dec 07 09:59:19 EST 2012 Resolution: SEE FR?? I, CHRISTOPHER WANKA, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Input (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Input in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Input and that I have full power and authority to enter into this By checking this box I affirm that I am CHRISTOPHER WANKA, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 20 of 46 Public Input No. 27-NFPA 13E-2013 [ New Section after 6.3.8 ] 6.4 Fireground Operations Involving Properties Protected by Automatic Standpipe Systems with Fire Pumps. 6.4.1* Fire department personnel should carefully plan operations in properties protected by automatic standpipe systems designed to supply fire department hose streams and combined sprinkler systems. These procedures should be specific to automatic standpipes with fire pumps. 6.4.2* Fire departments should utilize automatic standpipes whenever possible to provide the fastest and most efficient method of getting water on the fire. 6.4.3 Fire suppression operations will be limited to the pressure and flow design of the standpipe. Fire departments should plan interior fire suppression operations to function within the pressure and flow parameters specific to each automatic standpipe system. Section 6.4 through 6.7 were created to differentiate operations specific to automatic standpipe systems with fire pumps. Planning operations, selecting the proper equipment to function from automatic standpipes, and considerations to the limitations of these systems are included in 6.4. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 18-NFPA 13E-2013 [Section No. 6.1.6] Public Input No. 20-NFPA 13E-2013 [Section No. 6.3] Public Input No. 26-NFPA 13E-2013 [New Section after A.6.3.1] Relationship Submitter Full Name: Ryan Rossing Organization: Portland Fire & Rescue Submittal Date: Wed Jan 02 17:43:54 EST 2013 Resolution: See FR8. I, Ryan Rossing, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and

Page 21 of 46 By checking this box I affirm that I am Ryan Rossing, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 22 of 46 Public Input No. 28-NFPA 13E-2013 [ New Section after 6.3.8 ] 6.5 Nozzle and Hose Selection for use with Automatic Standpipe Systems 6.5.1* Fire departments should utilize nozzle and hose line configurations that can be supplied by the lowest pressure automatic standpipe systems in their jurisdictions. 6.5.2 Fire departments should be aware of the potential for reduced flow and fire stream reach when operating hose lines that cannot be properly supplied by the system demand design. 6.5.3* When working from an automatic standpipe, the combined flow rate of operating hose lines and flowing sprinkler heads should not exceed the capacity of the fire pump. Section 6.4 through 6.7 were created to differentiate operations specific to automatic standpipe systems with fire pumps. This section is to clarify how the automatic systems have limitations, what those standard limitations are and how they affect fire fighting operations specific to equipment compatability. Manual standpipes are pumped to the pressures needed to match the nozzles and hose lines attached to the outlets, whereas automatic standpipes with fire pumps dictate the nozzle and hose line selection that "should" be used in order for compatability and functionality. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 27-NFPA 13E-2013 [New Section after 6.3.8] Relationship Submitter Full Name: Ryan Rossing Organization: Portland Fire & Rescue Submittal Date: Wed Jan 02 17:45:59 EST 2013 Resolution: See FR?

Page 23 of 46 I, Ryan Rossing, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Ryan Rossing, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 24 of 46 Public Input No. 29-NFPA 13E-2013 [ New Section after 6.3.8 ] 6.6 Automatic Standpipe Water Supply Considerations 6.6.1* Fire departments should plan water supply operations to support all automatic standpipe systems in their jurisdictions. 6.6.2 The fire departments initial water supply action should be to support the automatic standpipe as a secondary water supply. 6.6.3* Fire department pumpers should pump the system demand pressure and flow into the fire department connection when taking over any automatic standpipe or standpipe zone. 6.6.4* Fire departments should not pump to the fire floor when a standpipe utilizes pressure-reducing valves on outlets for hose connections or sprinkler connections to the standpipe. Section 6.4 through 6.7 were created to differentiate operations specific to automatic standpipe systems with fire pumps. Water supply operations are a very misunderstood element of automatic standpipes. This section illustrates the function and components that dictate how these systems can and should be supported. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 28-NFPA 13E-2013 [New Section after 6.3.8] Public Input No. 27-NFPA 13E-2013 [New Section after 6.3.8] Relationship Submitter Full Name: Ryan Rossing Organization: Portland Fire & Rescue Submittal Date: Wed Jan 02 17:47:48 EST 2013 Resolution: See FR8.

Page 25 of 46 I, Ryan Rossing, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Ryan Rossing, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 26 of 46 Public Input No. 30-NFPA 13E-2013 [ New Section after 6.3.8 ] 6.7 Pressure Regulating Components used in Automatic Standpipe Systems 6.7.1* Fire department personnel should be thoroughly familiar with the design and function of the various types of pressure regulating components used in automatic standpipe systems in their jurisdictions. 6.7.2 Pressure-reducing valves for hose connections shall be inspected annually and flow tested at 5-year intervals for proper operation. Pressure-regulation valves for sprinklers shall be inspected quarterly and flow tested at 5-year intervals. Section 6.4 through 6.7 were created to differentiate operations specific to automatic standpipe systems with fire pumps. This section is to explain in detail how pressure regulating components affect the automatic standpipe operation, it's ability to be pumped from a secondary water supply source, and the importance of understanding how the components work and limit fire department options when needing to add additional pressure to the system demand when the fire pump is not working and the fire department is pumping water into the FDC. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 27-NFPA 13E-2013 [New Section after 6.3.8] Public Input No. 28-NFPA 13E-2013 [New Section after 6.3.8] Public Input No. 29-NFPA 13E-2013 [New Section after 6.3.8] Relationship Submitter Full Name: Ryan Rossing Organization: Portland Fire & Rescue Submittal Date: Wed Jan 02 17:49:06 EST 2013 Resolution: See FR8.

Page 27 of 46 I, Ryan Rossing, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Ryan Rossing, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 28 of 46 Public Input No. 4-NFPA 13E-2012 [ Section No. 7.1.1 ] 7.1.1 When an impairment occurs, the following procedure should be performed by the impairment coordinator: (1) Determine the extent and expected duration of the impairment (2) Determine the increased risk in the areas of the building affected (3) Submit recommendations to the owner or manager of the building for dealing with the risk (4) Notify the fire department and the dispatch center for emergency services (5) Notify the insurance carrier, the alarm company, the building owner or manager, and other involved authorities having jurisdiction (6) Notify the supervisors in the area being affected (7) Install an impairment tag on the affected control valve and fire department connection (8) Assemble the necessary tools and materials to make the repair as quickly as possible (9) Discontinue all welding, cutting, and others forms of hot work. Too often hot work presents an unwanted source of ignition and is too risky to allow when fire protection systems are impaired. Submitter Full Name: John Chartier Organization: Northeastern Regional Fire Cod Submittal Date: Thu Aug 16 11:00:08 EDT 2012 Resolution: FR-10-NFPA 13E-2013 Statement: Too often hot work presents an unwanted source of ignition and is too risky to allow when fire protection systems are impaired. Added consideration of a fire watch. I, John Chartier, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and

Page 29 of 46 By checking this box I affirm that I am John Chartier, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 30 of 46 Public Input No. 5-NFPA 13E-2012 [ Section No. 7.1.1 ] 7.1.1 When an impairment occurs, the following procedure should be performed by the impairment coordinator: (1) Determine the extent and expected duration of the impairment (2) Determine the increased risk in the areas of the building affected (3) Submit recommendations to the owner or manager of the building for dealing with the risk (4) Notify the fire department and the dispatch center for emergency services (5) Notify the insurance carrier, the alarm company, the building owner or manager, and other involved authorities having jurisdiction (6) Notify the supervisors in the area being affected (7) Install an impairment tag on the affected control valve and fire department connection (8) Assemble the necessary tools and materials to make the repair as quickly as possible (9) Consider establishing a fire watch When the system is down, depending on conditions and circumstances, a fire watch may be necessary to maintain the level of risk and allow the business to continue to operate. Submitter Full Name: Kelly Nicolello Organization: Western Regional Fire Code Dev Submittal Date: Thu Aug 16 11:40:11 EDT 2012 Resolution: See FR 10.

Page 31 of 46 I, Kelly Nicolello, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Kelly Nicolello, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 32 of 46 Public Input No. 11-NFPA 13E-2012 [ Chapter 10 ] Chapter 10 Inspection and Testing Requirements 10.1 Inspection, Testing, and Maintenance for Sprinkler and Standpipe Systems. Existing building systems should be evaluated by fire department or other appropriate building personnel in accordance with NFPA 25, Standard for the Inspection, Testing, and Maintenance of Water-Based Fire Protection Systems. The requirement is extremely vague and open ended (should they be coming out weekly, monthly, annually etc.?). It is asking the FD to evaluate, this is the responsibility of the owner. Submitter Full Name: Bill Galloway Organization: Southern Regional Fire Code De Submittal Date: Tue Aug 28 15:52:41 EDT 2012 Resolution: FR-11-NFPA 13E-2013 Statement: The committee believes that a reference to NFPA 25 is needed to guide the user. I, Bill Galloway, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Bill Galloway, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 33 of 46 Public Input No. 19-NFPA 13E-2013 [ New Section after A.6.1.3 ] A6.1.6 Hose outlets on manual standpipes should be tested annually by opening and closing the valve, checking for proper operation and good working condition. Note that pressure-restricting devices (PRD) and pressure-reducing valves (PRV) are generally used only on automatic standpipe systems and are typically not installed on manual standpipe outlets. I created the annex to go with wording change for this section...per NFPA 25, manual standpipe outlets are tested differently than pressure regulating devices which are typically not found on manual standpipes. Clarification only. We've added sections to differential between manul standpipes and automatic standpipes with fire pumps. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 18-NFPA 13E-2013 [Section No. 6.1.6] Relationship Section and Annex change Submitter Full Name: Ryan Rossing Organization: Portland Fire & Rescue Submittal Date: Wed Jan 02 17:04:26 EST 2013 Resolution: FR-12-NFPA 13E-2013 Statement: The annex to go with wording change for this section...per NFPA 25, manual standpipe outlets are tested differently than pressure regulating devices which are typically not found on manual standpipes. I, Ryan Rossing, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Ryan Rossing, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 34 of 46 Public Input No. 26-NFPA 13E-2013 [ New Section after A.6.3.1 ] A6.3.3 Manual dry standpipes may be combined with automatic sprinkler systems when the residual pressure from the municipal water mains provides adequate pressure and flow to the sprinkler systems. The manual dry standpipe now becomes a manual wet standpipe with automatic sprinklers. Fire departments will still need to charge the standpipe to the pressure required to give the desired working pressure at the standpipe outlets being used for hose line operations. Clarifying that when a standpipe is "manual-wet, auto-sprinkler" the fire department still has to pump the standpipe to supply hoselines, even though it is wet just for sprinkler operation from residual water pressure. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 20-NFPA 13E-2013 [Section No. 6.3] Relationship section and created annex info Submitter Full Name: Ryan Rossing Organization: Portland Fire & Rescue Submittal Date: Wed Jan 02 17:28:21 EST 2013 Resolution: FR-13-NFPA 13E-2013 Statement: Clarifying that when a standpipe is "manual-wet, auto-sprinkler" the fire department still has to pump the standpipe to supply hoselines, even though it is wet. I, Ryan Rossing, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Ryan Rossing, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 35 of 46 Public Input No. 31-NFPA 13E-2013 [ New Section after A.6.3.4 ] A6.4.1 Automatic standpipes with fire pumps are very different from manual standpipes in many ways. NPFA 14, Standard for the Installation of Standpipe and Hose Systems, requires automatic standpipe systems to contain water at all times and be attached to a water supply capable of supplying the system demand at all times and that requires no action other than opening a hose valve to provide water at hose connections. This means automatic standpipe systems are designed to supply water, on-demand, without any assistance from the department pumpers. Section 6.4 through 6.7 were created to differentiate operations specific to automatic standpipe systems with fire pumps. Planning operations, selecting the proper equipment to function from automatic standpipes, and considerations to the limitations of these systems are included in 6.4. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 27-NFPA 13E-2013 [New Section after 6.3.8] Relationship section and annex info Submitter Full Name: Ryan Rossing Organization: Portland Fire & Rescue Submittal Date: Wed Jan 02 17:51:14 EST 2013 Resolution: FR-15-NFPA 13E-2013 Statement: Section 6.4 was created to differentiate operations specific to automatic standpipe systems with fire pumps. Planning operations, selecting the proper equipment to function from automatic standpipes, and considerations to the limitations of these systems are included in 6.4.

Page 36 of 46 I, Ryan Rossing, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Ryan Rossing, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 37 of 46 Public Input No. 33-NFPA 13E-2013 [ New Section after A.6.3.4 ] A6.5.1 NFPA 14, Standard for the Installation of Standpipe and Hose Systems, 2010, requires a minimum residual pressure of 100 psi at any 2-1/2 standpipe outlet and also requires pressure-reducing valves to be used anytime an outlet pressure to a hose connection is greater than 175 psi. Normal expected outlet pressure ranges on these systems could be from 100 to 175 psi. Connecting an inline pressure gauge between the hose line and the standpipe outlet on the floor below the fire floor allows a firefighter stationed at the standpipe to accurately set and maintain the correct pressure to a flowing hose line by gating down a higher outlet pressure. A 100 psi residual outlet pressure would support approximately 500 of 2-1/2 hose line with a 50 psi nozzle flowing 250 gpm. This would place a maximum of 475 of working hose line on the fire floor when connected to the standpipe outlet one floor below the fire floor. Prior to 1993, NFPA 14, Standard for the Installation of Standpipe and Hose Systems, required a minimum residual pressure of 65 psi at 2-1/2 standpipe outlets and required pressure-reducing valves when standpipe outlet pressures at hose connections were greater than 100 psi. Normal expected outlet pressures on systems built to pre-1993 standards could be from 65 to 100 psi. A 65 psi residual outlet pressure would support 150 of 2-1/2 hose line with a 50 psi nozzle flowing 250 gpm. When connected to the standpipe outlet one floor below the fire floor, this places a maximum of 125 of hose line onto the fire floor. Connecting additional lengths of 2-1/2 hose line will increase the friction loss of the hose line and reduce the flow and reach of the nozzle. A 65 psi residual outlet pressure will not support traditional hotel bundles or highrise bundles utilizing 1-3/4 hose line and 75 or 100 psi nozzles. A 100 psi residual outlet pressure would be able to support only 100 of 1-3/4 hose line with a 75 psi nozzle flowing 150 gpm. This would place a maximum of 75 of working hose line on the fire floor. A 100 psi residual outlet pressure would not support the use of 100 psi nozzles. Automatic or constant-pressure nozzles are not recommended for use on automatic standpipes. Potential low system pressures insufficient to supply the required nozzle pressure will cause the nozzle orifice to restrict, which greatly reduces the flow and reach of the hose line. Combination nozzles with adjustable patterns are easily fouled by standpipe debris which can result in a partial or complete blockage. Smooth-bore nozzles are less prone to blockage from standpipe debris and will generally function in a predictable manner when under pressurized. Attaching a 2-1/2 by 2-1/2 gated wye to a standpipe outlet to allow the connection of two 2-1/2, or large diameter hose lines, is not always a recommended practice because 2-1/2 standpipe outlets are only required to flow 250 gpm and may not support flowing two hand lines simultaneously. Pressure-reducing valves (PRV) connected to 2-1/2 standpipe outlets are generally sized for 250-400 gpm and will generally not provide adequate flow for two large diameter hose lines. Initial actions should be to connect a single large diameter hose line to each standpipe hose connection. Additional hose lines can be connected to standpipe hose connections on lower floors.

Page 38 of 46 This section is to clarify that automatic standpipes will deliver set outlet pressures and the pressure and volume of water than can be delivered has limitations. Gave examples of what kind of hose line operations could be expected from a couple minimum standard outlet pressure ranges. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 27-NFPA 13E-2013 [New Section after 6.3.8] Public Input No. 28-NFPA 13E-2013 [New Section after 6.3.8] Public Input No. 29-NFPA 13E-2013 [New Section after 6.3.8] Public Input No. 30-NFPA 13E-2013 [New Section after 6.3.8] Relationship Submitter Full Name: Ryan Rossing Organization: Portland Fire & Rescue Submittal Date: Wed Jan 02 17:53:47 EST 2013 Resolution: FR-17-NFPA 13E-2013 Statement: This section is to clarify that automatic standpipes will deliver set outlet pressures and the pressure and volume of water than can be delivered has limitations. Examples of what kind of hose line operations could be expected from a couple of minimum standard outlet pressure ranges. I, Ryan Rossing, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and By checking this box I affirm that I am Ryan Rossing, and I agree to be legally bound by the above and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by

Page 39 of 46 Public Input No. 35-NFPA 13E-2013 [ New Section after A.6.3.4 ] A6.6.1 NFPA 14, Standard for the Installation of Standpipe and Hose Systems, requires signage at the fire department connection to indicate the pressure required to be pumped into the fire department connection to supply the automatic standpipe system demand. Signage is also required to identify the type of standpipe, whether it is part of a combined sprinkler system and also the location the standpipe services. Fire departments should have knowledge of all system demand pressures required to support all of the automatic standpipe systems in their jurisdictions. Hose lines used to connect a hydrant to the intake of a pumper must have a working pressure rating equal to or greater than the available hydrant pressure. Hose lines used to connect the discharge of a pumper to the fire department connection on an automatic standpipe must have a working pressure rating equal to or greater than the system demand pressure of the automatic standpipe system. NFPA 14, Standard for the Installation of Standpipe and Hose Systems, limits automatic standpipe pressures to no more than 350 psi. Fire department pumpers should be configured to provide the highest system demand pressure for automatic standpipes in their jurisdictions. An accepted rule of thumb is one pumper per 150 psi of system demand pressure required. The configuration of pumpers must also provide the required flow into the fire department connection. A fire department pumper with a two-stage pump in volume-mode, connected to a hydrant with 50 psi residual pressure can deliver 200 psi into an automatic standpipe while maximizing the pumps flow capacity. 150 psi + 50 psi = 200 psi. At a net discharge pressure of 150 psi, the pump impeller can deliver its maximum flow capacity plus additional flow from the incoming hydrant pressure. Using a single pumper to supply pressure into systems requiring pressures greater than 200 psi will reduce the flow capacity of the pump when the pumps net discharge pressure exceeds 150 psi. Operating a two-stage pump in pressure-mode allows the pump to generate higher discharge pressures at lower engine speeds but limits the pump to half its rated flow capacity. Configuring two pumpers in series on a hydrant with 50 psi residual pressure will allow the pumpers to split the work load and deliver 350 psi into the standpipe. 150 + 150 + 50 = 350. In a series configuration, both pumps can remain in volumemode and operate at the optimum net discharge pressure to maximize the flow capacity of both engines into the standpipe. Standpipes that are part of a combined system are required to be at least 6 in size. When taking over and supplying water at the system demand pressure into the fire department connection, fire department pumpers with a higher flow capacity than the standpipe fire pump may potentially increase the flow capacity of the standpipe. This section is to clarify how water supply operations need to support the system demand pressure and the designed flow rate of the automatic standpipe system. Fire departments should configure the pumper or several pumpers to deliver the needed pressure and flow, but only in a back up capacity as long as the fire pump is working. Related Public Inputs for This Document