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1 of 5 11/12/05 12:02 PM For advertising info, email us! Home Forums Passat of the Month Marketplace About Us Passat World Forums > B5 Passat Discussions (1997-2005) - aka Club B5 > General B5 Discussion REAL cleaning of the DBW trottle body Welcome, D.Passat00. You last visited: Today at 10:58 AM Private Messages: 0 Unread, Total 98. User CP FAQ Members List Calendar New Posts Search Quick Links Log Out View First Unread Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread 06-27-2005, 11:48 AM jyyrii #1 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 30 PIC ADDED _ REAL cleaning of the DBW trottle body Now with a PIC. PIC: http://www.geocities.com/jyyrii/tb.html Number 2 on the foto is the 4 sensor brushes and the 4 sensor surfaces. I'm writing this because I have not seen this problem/cleaning mentioned anywhere on this site. (sorry no pics, I couldn't post any...) PROBLEM: My 1.8T was pulling a little unevenly, especially when warm/hot. I have been changing every part that I can think of to get rid of the problem (e.g. vacuum lines, MAF, DV, trottle body clening, etc...) but no improvement. I installed a boost meter to see the boost and it showed a little hesitation/variation in the boost level even on even gas/surface. So, I though it could be because of the oxygen sensor, bad injectors, trottle mecanism malfunction or the gas pedal itself. SOLUTION: So, I start with the least expensive thing: the trottle body (which actually happend to cause the problem). I took out the trottle body and cleaned the inside (this had already been done before, so it was already almost clean). The second thing, THIS IS NEW: I opened the throttle mecanism housing, which contains the electroric motor that drives the trottle "flap", some gears and the sensors for the trottle position. The housing was hold together with 5 clamps, which were easy to remove and put back with a knife/ by hand. The sensor surfaces was dirty so I cleaned them and also cleaned all the contacts for the motor and sensor. RESULT: I think that the normally done trottle body cleaning does not contain opening and cleaning the mecanism housing inside, but this definitely did help in this case. Here I am: a lucky owner of a silk smooth 1.8t Last edited by jyyrii : 07-01-2005 at 08:14 AM. Reason: PIC ADDED

2 of 5 11/12/05 12:02 PM 06-27-2005, 11:51 AM D.Passat00 6th Gear #2 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LA, CA Posts: 7,515 nice! i'll have to try this sometime! 06-27-2005, 12:39 PM #3 John_E 3rd Gear Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Encinitas CA Posts: 1,792 I love this forum. 06-27-2005, 01:57 PM spd33 1st Gear #4 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chandler, AZ Posts: 288 What did you use to clean the sensor surfaces with? Alcohol or electronic parts cleaner? 06-28-2005, 07:57 AM jyyrii #5 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 30 I used a spray that is meant for the "ignition distributor" (sorry, don't know the correct word). It is supposed to prevent moisture and rust, I guess. I could see some stains on the sensor surface, so I sprayed and dried a couple of times until it was all clean. 06-30-2005, 11:13 AM swett 2nd Gear #6 Join Date: May 2000 Location: Pasadena, CA USA Posts: 697 Bump for this, a picture is worth a thousand words Its pretty quick to do, just don't lose any of those metal clips! Thanks, Ian Today, 08:25 AM #7

3 of 5 11/12/05 12:02 PM palopalo please help! Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2 Hi im new here so forgive me if this sounds strange or is a stupid set of questions, but would really love some help! ive taken the throttle body off my passat 1.8t APU and cleaned all that i could get to, it wasnt very dirty at all but still needed cleaning for m peace of mind! anyway the butterfly plate doesnt close all the way? should it? when you are cleaning the plate you have to push against the force of a spring / motor etc - which seems enough to close the plate completly? if i press against the plate (again not using too much force ) the plate will close completely flush but then springs back with a 2mm gap at top and bottom - is this normal tomorrow im going to take the entire tb apart and see if i can somehow realign it so the plate shuts flush by the force of the spring / motor but if im being an idiot can someone please say so! Today, 09:26 AM bass_lover1 3rd Gear #8 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New Port Richey, FL Posts: 1,225 Quote: Originally Posted by palopalo Hi im new here so forgive me if this sounds strange or is a stupid set of questions, but would really love some help! ive taken the throttle body off my passat 1.8t APU and cleaned all that i could get to, it wasnt very dirty at all but still needed cleaning for m peace of mind! anyway the butterfly plate doesnt close all the way? should it? when you are cleaning the plate you have to push against the force of a spring / motor etc - which seems enough to close the plate completly? if i press against the plate (again not using too much force ) the plate will close completely flush but then springs back with a 2mm gap at top and bottom - is this normal tomorrow im going to take the entire tb apart and see if i can somehow realign it so the plate shuts flush by the force of the spring / motor but if im being an idiot can someone please say so! Yes the plate should remain slightly open at all times (usually around 3 degrees)...think about it, if it takes your foot on the gas pedal to keep the valve slightly open, then you would need to

4 of 5 11/12/05 12:02 PM keep your foot on the gas at all times to keep the car from stalling. It's left open to allow air to pass while the motor is idling, it's how they are designed and is why the spring pops it back open when you push on it. Today, 11:45 AM #9 palopalo Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2 ah!! excellent..thankyou very much! and thanks for not ridiculing me in public! glad i dont have to take it all apart, it doesnt look fun the metal clips look like they'd break fairly easily thanks again «Previous Thread Next Thread» Quick Reply Message: Options gfedc Quote message in reply? Post Quick Reply Go Advanced Posting Rules You may post new threads You may post replies You may not post attachments You may edit your posts vb code is On Smilies are On [IMG] code is On HTML code is Off Forum Jump General B5 Discussion 6 Go All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:52 AM.

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