of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 53-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 1.3.5 ] 1.3.5 This standard shall not apply to criteria for the use of thermal imagers by the fire service, the requirements for which are specified in NFPA 1408, Standard for Training Fire Service Personnel in the Operation, Care, Use, and Maintenance of Thermal Imagers. Clarifies application. Refer to NFPA 1982 section 1.3.3 Submitter Full Name: JOHN MORRIS Organization: ISG INFRASYS Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 16:30:50 EDT 2015 Resolution: The Technical Committee stated that NFPA 1408 is not a use document, but a training document.
of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 3-NFPA 1801-2014 [ Chapter 2 ] Chapter 2 Referenced Publications 2.1 General. The documents or portions thereof listed in this chapter are referenced within this standard and shall be considered part of the requirements of this document. 2.2 NFPA Publications. National Fire Protection Association, 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471. NFPA 1971, Standard on Protective Ensembles for Structural Fire Fighting and Proximity Fire Fighting, 2013 edition. 2.3 Other Publications. 2.3.1 ANSI ISA Publications. American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43d Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10036. ANSI/ The International Society of Automation, 67 T.W Alexander Drive, P.O Box 12277, Research Triangle Park, NC 27709. ISA-12.12.01, Nonincendive Electrical Equipment for Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions 1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations, 2007 2013. 2.3.2 ASTM Publications. ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959. ASTM B 117, Standard Practice for Operating Salt Spray (Fog) Apparatus, 2011. ASTM D 1003, Standard Test Method for Haze and Luminous Transmittance of Transparent Plastics, 2000 2013. 2.3.3 ISO/IEC Publications. International Standards Organization, 1 rue de Varembé, Case Postale 56, CH-1211 Genéve 20, Switzerland. IEC 60529, Degrees of protection provided by enclosures (IP Code) Ed.2. 2, 2013/Cor 1 b : 2001 2013. IEC 61000-6-2, Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) Part 6-2: Generic standards Immunity for industrial environments, 2005. IEC 61000-6-3, Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) Part 6-3: Generic standards Emission standard for residential, commercial, and light-industrial environments, 2007 2011. ISO 27, Guidelines for corrective action to be taken by a certification body in the event of misuse of its mark of conformity, 1983. ISO 65, General requirements for bodies operating product certification systems, 1998, (Superseded by ISO/IEC 17065). ISO DIS 9001, Quality management systems Requirements, 2008 2014. ISO 17011, Conformity assessment General requirements for accreditation bodies accrediting conformity assessment bodies, 2004. ISO 17025, General requirements for the competence of testing and calibration laboratories, 2005/Cor 1: 2006. ISO 17493, Clothing and equipment for protection against heat Test method for convective heat resistance using a hot air circulating oven, 2000. ISO/IEC 17021, Conformity assessment Requirements for bodies providing audit and certification of management systems, 2006 2011. ISO/IEC 17065, Conformity Assessment - Requirements for Bodies Certifiying Products, Processes, and Services, 2012.
of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM 2.3.4 NIST Publications. National Institute of Standards and Technology, 100 Bureau Drive, Stop 1070, Gaithersburg, MD 20899-1070. NIST Technical Note 1630, Evaluation of Image Quality of Thermal Imagers Used by the Fire Service, February 2009. 2.3.5 Other Publications. Merriam-Webster s Collegiate Dictionary, 11th edition, Merriam-Webster, Inc., Springfield, MA, 2003. 2.4 References for Extracts in Mandatory Sections. (Reserved) Referenced current editions. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 4-NFPA 1801-2014 [Chapter B] Relationship Submitter Full Name: Aaron Adamczyk Organization: [ Not Specified ] Submittal Date: Fri Jun 27 22:07:28 EDT 2014 Resolution: FR-9-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The changes introduced by this First Revision update the referenced documents.
of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 12-NFPA 1801-2014 [ Section No. 2.3.1 ] 2.3.1 ANSI Publications. American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43d Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10036. ANSI/ISA-12.12.01, Nonincendive Electrical Equipment for Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions 1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations, 2007 2013. Updates publication reference to latest edition of ISA 12.12.01. Changes between the 2007 and 2013 editions do not impact existing certifications. Submitter Full Name: PAUL KELLY Organization: UL LLC Submittal Date: Thu Nov 20 16:43:24 EST 2014 Resolution: See FR 1.
of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 44-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 2.3.1 ] 2.3.1 ANSI Publications. American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43d Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10036. ANSI/ISA-12.12.01, Nonincendive Electrical Equipment for Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions 1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations, 2007 2013. The latest edition of ANSI/ISA 12.12.01 is dated 2013. The differences between the 2013 edition and the 2007 edition only involve increased certification options, and not any increases in severity of requirements. Submitter Full Name: PAUL KELLY Organization: UNDERWRITERS LABORATORIES INC Affilliation: UNDERWRITERS LABORATORIES INC Submittal Date: Fri Jun 05 08:30:48 EDT 2015 Resolution: See FR 1.
of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 54-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 2.3.1 ] 2.3.1 ANSI Publications. American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43d Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10036. ANSI/ISA-12.12.01, Nonincendive Electrical Equipment for Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions 1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations, 2007 2013. updated Submitter Full Name: JOHN MORRIS Organization: ISG INFRASYS Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 16:36:29 EDT 2015 Resolution: See FR 1.
of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 18-NFPA 1801-2014 [ Section No. 2.3.3 ] 2.3.3 ISO/IEC Publications. International Standards Organization, 1 rue de Varembé, Case Postale 56, CH-1211 Genéve 20, Switzerland. IEC 60529, Degrees of protection provided by enclosures (IP Code) Ed. 2.1 b:2001. IEC 61000-6-2, Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) Part 6-2: Generic standards Immunity for industrial environments, 2005. IEC 61000-6-3, Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) Part 6-3: Generic standards Emission standard for residential, commercial, and light-industrial environments, 2007. ISO 27, Guidelines for corrective action to be taken by a certification body in the event of misuse of its mark of conformity, 1983. ISO 65, General requirements for bodies operating product certification systems, 1998 ISO17065:2012, Requirements for bodies certifying products, processes and services. ISO 9001, Quality management systems Requirements, 2008. ISO 17011, Conformity assessment General requirements for accreditation bodies accrediting conformity assessment bodies, 2004. ISO 17025, General requirements for the competence of testing and calibration laboratories, 2005/Cor 1: 2006. ISO 17493, Clothing and equipment for protection against heat Test method for convective heat resistance using a hot air circulating oven, 2000. ISO/IEC 17021, Conformity assessment Requirements for bodies providing audit and certification of management systems, 2006. Update reference document to current number and title. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 16-NFPA 1801-2014 [Section No. 4.1.2] Relationship Same reference document. Submitter Full Name: James Rose Organization: Safety Equipment Institute Submittal Date: Mon Nov 24 14:05:45 EST 2014 Resolution: See FR 1.
of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 101-NFPA 1801-2015 [ New Section after 3.3.16 ] TITLE OF NEW CONTENT - 3.3.XX Model. The collective term used to identify a group of elements or items of the same basic design and components from a single manufacturer produced by the same manufacturing and quality assurance procedures that are covered by the same certification. The term Model should be added to Chapter 3 Degfinitions as it does not currently exist. The proposed wording was taken fron NFPA 1982-2013. The committee may also want to include the Model # in this defiinition. Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 13:04:45 EDT 2015 Resolution: FR-2-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The term "model" is being defined in Chapter 3 because it is used in the standard. The proposed definition was taken from NFPA 1982.
of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 102-NFPA 1801-2015 [ New Section after 3.3.25 ] TITLE OF NEW CONTENT -3.3.XX Service Life The period for which compliant product may be useful before retirement. The term SERVICE LIFE does not exist in the current standard and should be soemthing to be considerd for the end user to be informed of. This wording was taken from NFPA 1981-2013. Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 13:14:06 EDT 2015 Resolution: FR-3-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The term "service life" does not exist in the current standard and is being included because it is used in the standard. The technical committee believes that end users should be aware of what this term means.this definition was taken from NFPA 1981.
0 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 16-NFPA 1801-2014 [ Section No. 4.1.2 ] 4.1.2 All certification shall be performed by a certification organization that meets at least the requirements specified in Section 4.2, Certification Program, and that is accredited for personal protective equipment in accordance with ISO 65 17065, General requirements Requirements for bodies operating product certification systems certifying products, processes and services. The accreditation shall be issued by an accreditation body operating in accordance with ISO 17011, Conformity assessment General requirements for accreditation bodies accrediting conformity assessment bodies. Update document number and title to current version. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 17-NFPA 1801-2014 [Section No. 4.2.3] Public Input No. 18-NFPA 1801-2014 [Section No. 2.3.3] Relationship Submitter Full Name: James Rose Organization: Safety Equipment Institute Submittal Date: Mon Nov 24 13:56:40 EST 2014 Resolution: FR-6-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The technical committee is updating the ISO document number and title to the current version.
1 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 49-NFPA 1801-2015 [ New Section after 4.1.6 ] 4.1.7 Thermal imagers shall be listed to ANSI/ISA-12.12.01, Nonincendive Electrical Equipment for Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions 1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) L ocations, and shall meet the requirements for at least Class I, Division 2, Groups C and D and Class II, Division 2, Groups F and G hazardous locations, and with a Temperature Class of T3, T3A, T3B, T3C, T4, T4A, T5 or T6. For the purpose of the impact test referenced in 15.4 of ANSI/ISA-1 2.12.01, NFPA 1801 shall be considered the applicable standard for products in unclassified locations. There are three key aspects to this input - - 1) Relocate Clause 7.1.4 to a new clause under 4.1 on general certification requirements, 2) Expand the Division 2 certification requirement to include Class II, Division 2, Groups F and G, in addition to the existing Class I, Division 2 requirements, and 3) Include reference to the T3 and T4 temperature classifications that have "A" suffixes, in addition to the existing reference to T3, T4, T5 and T6. The rationale for 1) is because compliance with ANSI/ISA-12.12.01 includes requirements for product labeling, user information, and design requirements, in addition to performance requirements. As written and located within the current edition of NFPA 1801, it could be mistakenly assumed that only compliance with the performance requirements in ANSI/ISA-12.12,01 is required. To address this issue, comparable text to 7.1.4 could be added under 5.1, 5.2 and 6.1, in addition to 7.1.4, but simply addressing the issue of compliance with ANSI/ISA-12.12.01 solely under 4.1 seemed simpler with less potential for confusion. The rationale for 2) is because exposure to Class II explosive dust atmospheres is a concern for this equipment, in addition to exposure to Class I explosive gas atmospheres. Compliance with these Class II, Division 2 requirements mostly involves use of a NEMA Type 12 or better enclosure. The rationale for 3) is because T3A, T3B, T3C and T4A are permitted temperature classifications between T3 and T6 in both ANSI/ISA-12.12.01 and in the NEC. See also Public Input No. 50-NFPA 1801-2015. Submitter Full Name: PAUL KELLY Organization: UNDERWRITERS LABORATORIES INC Affilliation: UNDERWRITERS LABORATORIES INC Submittal Date: Fri Jun 05 08:58:15 EDT 2015 Resolution: See FR 4, 12, 16 and 17.
2 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 17-NFPA 1801-2014 [ Section No. 4.2.3 ] 4.2.3 The certification organization shall be accredited for personal protective equipment in accordance with ISO 65 17065, General requirements Requirements for bodies operating product certification systems certifying products, processes and services. The accreditation shall be issued by an accreditation body operating in accordance with ISO 17011, Conformity assessment General requirements for accreditation bodies accrediting conformity assessment bodies. Update ISO document number and title to current version. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 16-NFPA 1801-2014 [Section No. 4.1.2] Relationship Same reference document to be updated. Submitter Full Name: James Rose Organization: Safety Equipment Institute Submittal Date: Mon Nov 24 14:02:13 EST 2014 Resolution: FR-7-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The technical committee is updating the ISO document number and title to current version.
3 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 30-NFPA 1801-2014 [ Section No. 4.2.9 ] 4.2.9 The certification organization shall have a follow-up inspection program of the manufacturer s facilities of the compliant product with at least two random and unannounced visits per 12-month period to verify the product s continued compliance. 4.2.9.1 As part of the follow-up inspection program, the certification organization shall select sample compliant product at random from the manufacturer s production line, from the manufacturer s in-house stock, or from the open market. 4.2.9.2 Sample product shall be evaluated by the certification organization to verify the product s continued compliance in order to ensure that the materials, components, and manufacturing quality assurance systems are consistent with the materials, components, and manufacturing quality assurance that were inspected and tested by the certification organization during initial certification and recertification. 4.2.9.3 The certification organization shall be permitted to conduct specific testing to verify the product s continued compliance. 4.2.9.4 For products, components, and materials where prior testing, judgment, and experience of the certification organization have shown results to be in jeopardy of not complying with this standard, the certification organization shall conduct more frequent testing of sample product, components, and materials acquired in accordance with 4.2.9.1 against the applicable requirements of this standard. Whole chapter 4.2.9 can be removed. If chapter 7.1.4 is clarified so that certification to ANSI/ISA 12.12.01 is required, no follow-up inspection program is needed for NFPA1801.The ANSI/ISA12.12.01 Factory audit inspection program, together with chapter 4.4.1 annual recertification will give the same effect. ANSI/ISA requires 4 yearly factory audit inspections. There is no need for additional NFPA1801 follow-up inspections above the annual NFPA1801 recertification and four factory audit inspections for ANSI/ISA. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 29-NFPA 1801-2014 [Section No. 7.1.4] Relationship If ANSI/ISA12.12.01 certification is required, 4.2.9 is unnecessary Submitter Full Name: Lea Dabiri Organization: Flir Systems Submittal Date: Mon Dec 15 09:32:22 EST 2014
4 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Resolution: The TC believes that the requirements of NFPA 1801 and ANSI/ISA 12.12.01 are two separate sets of auditing parameters. ANSI/ISA 12.12.01 does not cover all of the performance requirements in Chapter 7 of NFPA 1801.
5 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 55-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 5.1.6 ] 5.1.6 The following compliance statement shall be legibly printed on the product label: THIS THERMAL IMAGER MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF NFPA 1801, STANDARD ON THERMAL IMAGERS FOR THE FIRE SERVICE, 2013 20XX EDITION. DO NOT REMOVE THIS LABEL! The date on the standard needs to be updated and corrected to the next edition Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 20:30:40 EDT 2015 Resolution: FR-10-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The date on the label is being updated to correspond to the next edition date of the standard.
6 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 56-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 5.1.7 ] 5.1.7 Each thermal imager shall be marked directly with the serial number and the with a serial number and the year and month of manufacture. New verbiage indicates that both a serial number and the year and month of manufacture shall be marked. Hopefully this will prevent the year and month from being embedded somewhere in in the serial number. This verbiage also is closer to similar wording in section 5.1.8 making them more consistent. Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 20:35:02 EDT 2015 Resolution: FR-11-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The technical committee is introducing new requirements to indicate that both a serial number and the year and month of manufacture shall be marked. The committee's intent is to prevent the year and month from being embedded somewhere else within the serial number. This change is also similar to the requirements in section 5.1.8 and makes both paragraphs more consistent.
7 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 81-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 5.2.3 ] 5.2.3 Information and materials regarding pre-operational use shall be provided on at least the following areas: (1) Safety considerations (2) Pre-use checks (3) Limitations of use (4) Power source requirements, type, and brand (5) Estimated operation time on fully charged power source in each available mode (6) Estimated operational time associated with each of the four segments on the Power Source Satus Indicator (7) Low-power source signals and power supply replacement, where applicable (8) Charging and recharging procedures (9) Marking recommendations and restrictions (10) Warranty information (11) Recommended storage practices (12) Mounting on/in vehicles or fire apparatus (13) Explanation and identification of the features and functions of TI BASIC/TI BASIC PLUS (14) Symbols and functions with associated temperature references in available operating modes (15) If equipped with a temperature bar, adequate description of the use of the temperature bar (16) If equipped with a numeric temperature indicator, adequate description of the use of the numeric temperature indicator (17) If equipped with colorization, adequate description of the temperature thresholds for colorization Although the standard specifies percentage of power availablepercentage means nothing to the user. We specify in section 6.1.2 that the the thermal imager shall be capable of continuously operationg for a minimum of 120 minutes in TI BASIC mode. If the manufacturer supplies a power source that is capable of operating for a minimum of 120 minutes or greater they should be able to provide the estimated level of power associated with each of the four segments in time. It should be noted that the operating time of a fully charged power source currently supplied in many thermal imagers far exceeds 120 minutes. Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 08:15:06 EDT 2015 Resolution: FR-13-NFPA 1801-2015
8 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Statement: The technical committee believes that although the standard specifies percentage of power available percentage, this means little to the user. Section 6.1.2 requires that the thermal imager shall be capable of continuously operating for a minimum of 120 minutes in TI BASIC mode. If the manufacturer supplies a power source that is capable of operating for a minimum of 120 minutes or greater it should be able to provide the estimated level of power associated with each of the four segments in time. It should be noted that the operating time of a fully charged power source currently supplied in many thermal imagers far exceeds 120 minutes. An Annex text and Table are also being added as explanatory material.
9 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 93-NFPA 1801-2015 [ New Section after 6.1.2 ] 6.1.2.1 All power sources consisting of battery cells and battery packs should be evaluated by a national recognized testing laboratory (NRTL) in accordance with the regulations outlined in UL 1642, Standard for Lithium Batteries, or UL 2054, Standard for Household and Commercial Batteries, or.iec62133 Safety requirements for portable sealed secondary cells, and for batteries made from them, for use in portable applications Promotion of note hidden in the appendix to the main specification. Includes proposed amendment to A.6.1.2 Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 11:02:06 EDT 2015 Resolution: See FR 14.
0 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 94-NFPA 1801-2015 [ New Section after 6.1.2 ] 6.1.2.2 All power sources consisting of battery cells and battery packs should have passed the UN38.3 T1 to T8 battery safety tests at a 3rd party laboratory. In order to ensure air transport safety, and to meet customer demand for transport of cargo containing lithium batteries, according to IATA "Dangerous Goods Rules, any Lithium batteries must have passed UN38.3 testing at a 3rd party laboratory. Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 11:10:58 EDT 2015 Resolution: The TC believes that it is the responsibility of the manufacturer to complete the required shipping papers.
1 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 8-NFPA 1801-2014 [ Section No. 6.1.2 ] 6.1.2* All thermal imagers shall be capable of continuously operating for a minimum of 120 minutes in TI BASIC mode in room temperature without the power source being changed or recharged. Specifying environmental conditions for this requirement. Submitter Full Name: Lea Dabiri Organization: Flir Systems Submittal Date: Wed Nov 19 13:07:44 EST 2014 Resolution: FR-14-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: In 6.1.2, the technical committee is specifying environmental conditions for this requirement. In 6.1.2.1, the committee is clarifying that passive functions such as automatic background video and image recording may reduce the running time of the thermal imager preventing it from offering the required 120 minutes minimum of operating time. The committee is moving the Annex text A.6.1.2 moved to the body of the standard as a new 6.1.3.
2 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 92-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.1.2 ] 6.1.2 * All thermal imagers shall be capable of continuously operating for a minimum of 120 minutes in TI BASIC mode without the power source being changed or recharged. The continuous operating time should be measured with any passive functions such as automatic background video and image recording active. Passive functions such as automatic background video and image recording may reduce the running time of the thermal imager preventing it from offering the required 120 minutes minimum of operating time. Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 11:00:23 EDT 2015 Resolution: See FR 14.
3 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 2-NFPA 1801-2014 [ New Section after 6.1.3 ] Minimum video refresh rate All thermal imagers shall have a minumum video refresh rate of 30 frames per second. The original intent of the document was to require video refresh rates of 30Hz or higher. This was discussed and included in the pre-nfpa technical document but was lost somewhere along the line. A low refresh rate camera will pass the NFPA 1801 image quality tests since all the NFPA testing is done on static images. A refresh rate of less than 30Hz can make navigation more difficult and may lead to firefighter disorientation. Submitter Full Name: Craig Gestler Organization: MSA Affilliation: MSA Submittal Date: Fri Apr 25 15:58:02 EDT 2014 Resolution: FR-19-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The technical committee observed that the original intent of the document was to require video refresh rates of 30Hz or higher. This was discussed and included in the earlier drafts of the standard under development, but was not included in the final version. A low refresh rate camera will pass the NFPA 1801 image quality tests since all the NFPA testing is done on static images. A refresh rate of less than 30Hz can make navigation more difficult and may lead to firefighter disorientation.
4 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 79-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.1.7 ] 6.1.7 All thermal imagers shall be provided with a method of with all of the methods/devices of attaching the thermal imager to the user, and the method of attachment shall not that the manufacturer may offer. Each method/device shall be attached to the thermal imager and the user as intended. When attached to both the user and the thermal imager they shall not degrade the function or performance of the thermal imager. We require that the thermal imager shall be provided with a method of attaching the thermal imager to the user, and the method of attachment shall not degrade the function or performance of the thermal imager but no where in the standard do we test for this. It is importaint to have have 6.1.7 as today most thermal imagers should and are intended to be attached to the user, possibly by a retractable lanyard or strap rather than to just be hand held. It is understood that there are several methods of attachement and it would be counterproductive to the process to have a manufactuer submitt all specimens with all the attachement variations for all the testing. It is recommended that each means of attachment that a manufacturer offers be be supplied to the testing lab and that the testing lab simply attach them to the thermal imager as intended and then to the person as intended by the manufactuer to determine if either the attachement point on the thermal imager and/or the method of attachement degrades the function or performance of the thermal imager. Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 07:41:22 EDT 2015 Resolution: FR-20-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: NFPA 1801 requires that the thermal imager shall be provided with a method of attaching the thermal imager to the user, and the method of attachment shall not degrade the function or performance of the thermal imager but nowhere in the standard is a test conducted for this. It is important to have have the requirement in 6.1.9 as most thermal imagers are intended to be attached to the user, possibly by a retractable lanyard or strap rather than to just be hand held. It is understood that there are several methods of attachment and it would be counterproductive to the process to have a manufacturer submit all specimens with all the attachment variations for all the testing. It is recommended that each means of attachment that a manufacturer offers be provided to the testing lab and that the testing lab simply attach them to the thermal imager as intended and then to the person to determine if either the attachment point on the thermal imager and/or the method of attachment degrades the function or performance of the thermal imager.
5 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 57-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.2.1 [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] The thermal imager shall have a power on/off button that cycles the thermal imager s power. The power power on/off button shall be located in an easily accessible area of the thermal imager. provides consistency in verbiage Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 20:56:00 EDT 2015 Resolution: FR-21-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The technical committee is providing this change for consistency of terminology throughout the document.
6 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 105-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.2.1.1 ] 6.2.1.1 The power on/off button shall be capable of being switched by a gloved hand. The gloves used for this function test shall be contructed from American cow hide and include a PTFE moisture barrier and shall comply with structural fire-fighting glove requirements of NFPA 1971, Standard on Protective Ensembles for Structural Fire Fighting and Proximity Fire Fighting. The requirements for the gloves used for the power button test are not specific enough. The NFPA 1971 requirement for a structural fire fighting glove is a minimum requirement. Many firefighters choose to wear gloves that offer additional protection but are less compliant (flexible), making it more difficult to push buttons on the TIC. The "gloved hand" requirement should not be based on just the minimum glove requirements. Submitter Full Name: Craig Gestler Organization: MSA Safety Affilliation: MSA Safety Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 15:07:51 EDT 2015 Resolution: See FR 30. Paragraph deleted.
7 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 32-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.2.1.1 ] 6.2.1.1 The power on/off button shall be capable of being switched by a gloved hand. The gloves used for this function test shall comply with structural fire-fighting glove requirements of NFPA 1971, Standard on Protective Ensembles for Structural Fire Fighting and Proximity Fire Fighting. Requirement for power-button is already covered by section 6.1.6 which covers all 'operational selection devices' Submitter Full Name: BERND SPELLENBERG Organization: DRAEGER SAFETY AG & CO KGAA Submittal Date: Wed Feb 25 08:56:32 EST 2015 Resolution: FR-30-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The technical committee is deleting this requirement for the power-button because it is redundant with Section 6.1.6 on operational selection devices.
8 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 58-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.2.2 ] 6.2.2 The power-on/off button shall be green in color. No other button(s) on the outside of the thermal imager shall be green in color. provides consistency in verbiage Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 21:00:45 EDT 2015 Resolution: FR-22-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The technical committee is providing this change to maintain consistency in terminology throughout the standard.
9 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 59-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.2.3 ] 6.2.3 The power-on/off button shall only turn the thermal imager on, turn the thermal imager off, and revert the thermal imager to the TI BASIC operational format from TI BASIC PLUS operational format. provides consistency in verbiage Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 21:02:57 EDT 2015 Resolution: FR-23-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The technical committee is providing this change to maintain consistency in terminology throughout the standard.
0 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 60-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.2.5 [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] Where the power-on/off button is used to power up the thermal imager, the power-on process shall require the power button to be pressed and held for no more than 1 second. provides consistency in verbiage Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 21:06:37 EDT 2015 Resolution: FR-24-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The technical committee is providing this change to maintain consistency in terminology throughout the standard.
1 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 61-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.2.5.2 ] 6.2.5.2 Both the power-on/off button activation and the automatic activation shall present a useful thermal image on the display in 60 seconds or less. provides consistency in verbiage Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 21:09:59 EDT 2015 Resolution: FR-25-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The technical committee is providing this change to maintain consistency in terminology throughout the standard. The TC believes that the time of 60 seconds was originally allocated for older technology (BST) thermal imagers that required a "warm up/start up" time. The BST technology is no longer manufactured. The TC believes that as the use of thermal imagers becomes more user-friendly through training and simplification of use as permitted by this standard, the presentation of a useful image on the display and the icons required by the TI Basic Operational Format should not be longer than 30 seconds.
2 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 62-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.2.5.2 ] 6.2.5.2 Both the power button activation and the automatic activation shall present a useful thermal image on the with all the icons required in the TI Basic Operational Format on the display in 60 30 seconds or less. The time of 60 seconds was originally allocated for older technology (BST) thermal imagers that required a "warm up/start up" time. The BST technology is no longer manufactured. As the use of thermal imagers becomes more user friendly through training and simplification of use as allotted with this standard the presentation of a useful image on the display and the icons required by the TI Basic Operational Format should not be longer than 30 seconds Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 21:11:16 EDT 2015 Resolution: See FR 25.
3 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 78-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.2.5.2 ] 6.2.5.2 Both the power button activation and the automatic activation shall present a useful thermal image on the display in 60 in 10 seconds or less. Should the thermal Imager for any reason need to have power reapplied, 60 seconds is much too long a period of time to be without an image. This reduced time of 10 seconds should be easily achievable. Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 07:39:28 EDT 2015 Resolution: See FR 25.
4 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 33-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.2.6 ] 6.2.6 The power on/off button shall be protected from accidental change of operation and impact damage. Requirement of protection from 'accidental Change of mode of operation' is already covered by section 6.1.5 which requires for all 'operational selection devices' to be 'designed to prevent unintentional activation, deactivation, and change of operation' Submitter Full Name: BERND SPELLENBERG Organization: DRAEGER SAFETY AG & CO KGAA Submittal Date: Wed Feb 25 09:03:33 EST 2015 Resolution: See FR 32.
5 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 100-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.4.3 ] 6.4.3 TI BASIC operational format functions shall include the following: (1) Grayscale imagery with white-hot polarity (2) Power source status (3) Internal electronics overheat indicator (4) Thermal imager on indicator (5) Icons related to normal operation are permitted to be displayed Manufactures display Icons on display e.g. current colour mode to help the user. Permitting these in TI Basic mode will reduce confusion when plus mode features are available and used. Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 12:41:13 EDT 2015 Resolution: The TC believes that this text belongs in 6.4.4. See the First Revision to 6.4.4.
6 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 63-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.4.3 ] 6.4.3 TI BASIC operational format functions shall include the following: (1) Grayscale imagery with white-hot polarity (2) Power source status indicator (3) Internal electronics overheat indicator (4) Thermal imager on indicator Consistency in wording in the document Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 21:24:24 EDT 2015 Resolution: FR-28-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The technical committee is providing this change to maintain consistency in terminology throughout the standard.
7 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 9-NFPA 1801-2014 [ Section No. 6.4.3 ] 6.4.3 TI BASIC operational format functions shall include the following: (1) Grayscale imagery with white-hot polarity (2) Power source status (3) Internal electronics overheat indicator (4) Thermal imager on indicator Thermal imager "on" indicator does not add any relevant information for the user. When implemented on the screen it is already obvious that the TI is on. Not even when implemented as an additional indicator (e.g. LED) it does not add enought information to be motivated. There are e.g. cheaper ways to test batteries and if the display is broken, the camera is not functional any way. Submitter Full Name: Lea Dabiri Organization: Flir Systems Submittal Date: Wed Nov 19 13:16:00 EST 2014 Resolution: The TC believes that the LED indicator is a useful indicator for the functionality of the display.
8 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 64-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.4.4 ] 6.4.4 In addition to the requirements specified in 6.4.3, the TI BASIC operational format shall be permitted to also include the following: (1) Heat indicating color and, if so equipped with heat indicating color, a color heat color reference bar (2) Temperature bar (3) Numeric temperature measurement indicator Consistent terminology throughout the document Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 21:31:30 EDT 2015 Resolution: FR-27-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The technical committee is providing this change to maintain consistency in terminology throughout the standard. The TC also notes that new features that have become popular since the original specification was released and where these are invisible to the user should be made available within the TI BASIC operational format so that they can be maintained during power cycling. See paragraph 6.5.4.
9 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 77-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.4.4 ] 6.4.4 In addition to the requirements specified in 6.4.3, the TI BASIC operational format shall be permitted to also include the following: (1) Heat indicating color and, if so equipped with heat indicating color, a color reference bar (2) Temperature bar (3) Numeric temperature measurement indicator (4) Passive functions such as automatic background video and image recording. New features that have become popular since the original specification was released and where these are invisible to the user they should be made available within the TIBASIC operational format so that they can be maintained during power cycling. See clause 6.5.4 Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 07:03:32 EDT 2015 Resolution: See FR 27.
0 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 65-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.5.1 ] 6.5.1 TI BASIC PLUS operational format shall have at least the TI BASIC operational format functions specified in 6.4.3, and any or all of the TI BASIC operational format functions listed in 6.4.4 shall also be permitted. Consistency in wording throughout the standard Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 21:37:50 EDT 2015 Resolution: FR-26-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The technical committee is providing this change to maintain consistency in terminology throughout the standard.
1 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 103-NFPA 1801-2015 [ New Section after 6.5.2 ] TITLE OF NEW CONTENT 6.5.X Image/Audio Recording The user shall have knowledge by some means (an icon or LED) that an internal recording device is/has been turned on/ activated. The recording device shall be capable of being turned off / de activated by either deprssing the green power/-on/off button or an alternative method of selecting the operational format other than by software access via a computer. An internal "Blackbox" /recording feature may be benificial but can also be an item that can be utilized negatively in certain situations and the user/fire department may be held liable. The user should have a readily accessible option to deactivate the record feature. Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 13:47:14 EDT 2015 Resolution: The submitter was present at the meeting, and asked that it be withdrawn.
2 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 68-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.6.3.1 ] 6.6.3.1 Additional Information Area, Left Vertical Section. The left vertical section shall be reserved for additional information in both the TI BASIC and TI BASIC PLUS operational formats utilizing standard icons/symbols and locations. and In the TI BASIC operational format the Left Vertical Section shall include only the following: (1) Low sensitivity mode indicator (2) TI BASIC PLUS indicator upon activation, if so equipped In the TI BASIC PLUS operational format the Left Vertical Section shall include the following: (1) Low sensitivity mode indicator (2) TI BASIC PLUS indicator upon activation (3) Activation and status of optional TI BASIC PLUS features and functions, if so equipped In the TI basic Operational Mode the Left vertical section should only display those indicators to be used by the operator in the TI Basic mode of operation. Any additional icons can be confusing and create discrepancies to user trained to use NFPA 1801 compliant thermal imagers especially if the user does not see the TI Basic Plus operational format indicator but does see other icons. Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 22:11:29 EDT 2015 Resolution: FR-35-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The technical committee believes that the TI BASIC operational mode the left vertical section should only display those indicators to be used by the operator in the TI BASIC mode of operation. Any additional icons can be confusing and create discrepancies to a user trained to use NFPA 1801-compliant thermal imagers especially if the user does not see the TI BASIC PLUS operational format indicator but does see the other icons.
3 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 66-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.6.3.2 ] 6.6.3.2 Alarm and Operational Indicator Area, Center Vertical Section. The center column of the display plane shall be reserved for the alarm and operational indicators and shall include the following: (1) Power source status indicator (2) Temperature measurement zone, if so equipped (3) Internal electronics overheat indicator Consistency throughout the standard Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 21:40:57 EDT 2015 Resolution: FR-29-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The technical committee is providing this change to maintain consistency in terminology throughout the standard.
4 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 104-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.6.4.1.11 [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] In the TI BASIC mode, the heat color reference bar shall have a color scale that includes only the following colorization: (1) Transparent at the bottom of the heat color reference bar before color indication begins and shall not be more than 50% of the overall height of the heat color refernce bar. (2) Yellow at the low end of the heat color reference bar (3) Orange in the middle of the heat color reference bar (4) Red at the high end of the heat color reference bar Further clarification of the heat color refernce bar is required for standardization so as to not leave anything to interpretaion by the manufacturer. Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 14:00:21 EDT 2015 Resolution: See FR 36.
5 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 76-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.6.4.1.11 [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] In the TI BASIC mode, the heat color reference bar shall have a color scale that includes only the following colorization: (1) Transparent GreyScale at the bottom of the heat color reference bar before color indication begins (2) Yellow at the low end of the heat color reference bar (3) Orange in the middle of the heat color reference bar (4) Red at the high end of the heat color reference bar This clarifies the original intent of the standard that the reference bar should show the display content appropriate to the temperature. In the case before colour indication begins would be a greyscale. Where this has been interpreted literally the temperature bar representation could become misleading due to the scene content mixing with the bar. Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 05:41:54 EDT 2015 Resolution: FR-36-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The technical committee is clarifying the original intent of the standard that the reference bar should show the display content appropriate to the temperature. In the case before color indication begins would be a greyscale. Where this has been interpreted literally the temperature bar representation could become misleading due to the scene content mixing with the bar.
6 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 97-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.6.4.1.12 ] 6.6.4.1.12 The heat color reference bar shall be legible, shall extend to at least 75 percent of the height of the thermal imager display, and shall and can be dynamic in that it will change if necessary to correspond to the temperatures set by the manufacturer in whatever sensitivity mode the thermal imager is in. The relationship of colour to scene temperature shall be the same in all sensitivity modes. The duplication of one colour e.g. Yellow representing different temperatures eg. 150F, 400F and 800F is confusing and dangerous to the user. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 98-NFPA 1801-2015 [Section No. 6.6.4.1.13] Relationship Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 12:05:35 EDT 2015 Resolution: The TC decided to retain the language in 6.6.4.1.12, and a task group will be appointed to continue to look at this issue and provide Public Comments.
7 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 10-NFPA 1801-2014 [ Section No. 6.6.4.1.13 ] 6.6.4.1.13 Whenever any change occurs in the scale of the color reference bar, a green triangle shall be displayed for at least x seconds above and connected to the color reference bar as shown in Figure 6.6.4. Clarification in order to make the implementation easier and more standardized. Submitter Full Name: Lea Dabiri Organization: Flir Systems Submittal Date: Wed Nov 19 13:27:41 EST 2014 Resolution: The TC did not agree with the change, however, a task group was appointed to continue to investigate the issue and provide Public Comment.
8 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 98-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.6.4.1.13 ] 6.6.4.1.13 Whenever any change occurs in the scale of the color reference bar, a green triangle shall be displayed above and connected to the color reference bar as shown in Figure 6.6.4. The triangle will remain on permanently after the first change occurs. It is therefor unable to indicate any further changes of the scale to the user, including the original start up condition. This does not add any useful functionality to the camera and does to help the user. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 97-NFPA 1801-2015 [Section No. 6.6.4.1.12] Relationship Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 12:13:03 EDT 2015 Resolution: The TC did not agree with the change, however, a task group was appointed to continue to investigate the issue and provide Public Comment.
9 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 67-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.6.4.5 ] 6.6.4.5 Thermal Imager-On Indicator. A visual indication to the user user other than a usable image on the display that the thermal imager is in the powered-on operational mode shall be and shall be visible to the user any time the thermal imager is powered on. Although it may require more draw on the power supply an indicator should be available to the user to indicate the thermal imager is "on" in the case of a failure of the display or if a thermal imager is equipped with a Stand By/Sleep /Power Save feature Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 21:53:51 EDT 2015 Resolution: FR-37-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The technical committee believes that although it may require more draw on the power supply, an indicator should be available to the user to indicate the thermal imager is "on" in the case of a failure of the display or if a thermal imager is equipped with a Stand By/Sleep/Power Save feature
0 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 75-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.6.4.5 ] 6.6.4.5 Thermal Imager-On Indicator. A visual indication to the user that the thermal imager is in the powered-on operational mode shall be visible to the user any time the thermal imager is powered on. 6.6.4.5.1 This clause is satisfied by a thermal imager where the display is illuminated whenever the imager is switched powered on. The standard is not clear with regard to this clause and how it can be interpreted by manufacturers. Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 05:31:38 EDT 2015 Resolution: See FR 37.
1 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 34-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.6.4.7.2 ] 6.6.4.7.2 The TI BASIC PLUS operational format indicator shall be an indicator consisting of a solid green plus sign ( + ) enclosed in a transparent square box with a green border as shown in Figure 6.6.4. Correction of wording. Submitter Full Name: BERND SPELLENBERG Organization: DRAEGER SAFETY AG & CO KGAA Submittal Date: Wed Feb 25 09:07:39 EST 2015 Resolution: FR-38-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The technical committee is providing an editorial text correction.
2 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 99-NFPA 1801-2015 [ New Section after 7.1 ] 7.1.18 Thermal Imagers shall be tested for spot temperature accuracy, to verify design requirement in Section 6.6.4.1.6 when viewing a small object. Thermal Imagers shall be tested for relationship of colour to temperature to verify design requirement 6.6.4.2. The specification is open to certifying a camera that can show an incorrect spot temperature due to failing to change sensitivity mode. The camera may therefore show the maximum temperature of high sensitivity mode say 300F while viewing a small hot object at 800F, therefore misleading the user. The same issue applies to colour related temperature. A suitable test method will require definition, but this could also be used to validate the requirement that colours are not repeated in the temperature range Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 12:23:24 EDT 2015 Resolution: The submitter was present at the meeting, and requested that the Public Input be withdrawn.
3 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 19-NFPA 1801-2014 [ Section No. 7.1.4 ] 7.1.4 Thermal imagers shall be tested for listing listed to ANSI/ISA-12.12.01, Nonincendive Electrical Equipment for Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions 1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations, and shall meet the requirements for at least Class I, Division 2, Groups C and D hazardous locations, and with a Temperature Class of T3 or T4 or T5 or T6. For the purpose of the impact test referenced in 15.4 of ANSI/ISA 12.12.01, NFPA 1801 shall be considered the applicable standard for products in unclassified locations. "Listed" will include ongoing compliance with the UL913 requirements since factory visits are included with listed products. Saying only "tested" only requires the manufacturer to test the product once. This change will clarify the requirement that the product shall be listed for ongoing compliance for annual re-certification. Submitter Full Name: James Rose Organization: Safety Equipment Institute Submittal Date: Mon Nov 24 14:09:48 EST 2014 Resolution: See FR 17.
4 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 29-NFPA 1801-2014 [ Section No. 7.1.4 ] 7.1.4 Thermal imagers shall be tested for listing be certified to ANSI/ISA-12.12.01, Nonincendive Electrical Equipment for Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions 1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations, and shall meet the requirements for at least Class I, Division 2, Groups C and D hazardous locations, and with a Temperature Class of T3 or T4 or T5 or T6. For the purpose of the impact test referenced in 15.4 of ANSI/ISA 12.12.01, NFPA 1801 shall be considered the applicable standard for products in unclassified locations. The products should be CERTIFIED to ANSI/ISA 12.12.01. Motivation: Statement from Stephen Sanders, Technical Director SEI (Safety Equipment Institute) (ssanders@seinet.org): With regard to Section 7.1.4 of NFPA 1801-2013 and the need for certification vs. testing to the ANSI/ISA 12.12.01 standard SEI has required certification for electronics to the various intrinsic safety and/or hazloc standards, as opposed to just testing to the requirements in the applicable standard. SEI s rationale for requiring certification relies upon SEI understanding of the intent of the NFPA Technical Committees. In addition to NFPA 1801-2013, requirements for compliance of electronics with intrinsic safety standards exist in other similar NFPA standards, including both NFPA 1981-2013 (SCBA) and NFPA 1982-2013 (PASS). Both of these standards specifically require certification for electronics. While NFPA 1801-2013 may utilize the word tested in Section 7.1.4, we believe that it was the intent of both the NFPA Electronics Safety Equipment Technical Committee and its parent committee, the Correlating Committee, that a TIC s electronics be certified (which of course includes testing/evaluation and follow-up factory visits) as opposed to just being tested. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 30-NFPA 1801-2014 [Section No. 4.2.9] Relationship Submitter Full Name: Lea Dabiri Organization: Flir Systems Submittal Date: Mon Dec 15 09:27:27 EST 2014 Resolution: See FR 17.
5 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 50-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 7.1.4 ] 7.1.4 Thermal imagers shall be tested for listing to ANSI/ISA-12.12.01, Nonincendive Electrical Equipment for Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions 1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations, and shall meet the requirements for at least Class I, Division 2, Groups C and D hazardous locations, and with a Temperature Class of T3 or T4 or T5 or T6. For the purpose of the impact test referenced in 15.4 of ANSI/ISA 12.12.01, NFPA 1801 shall be considered the applicable standard for products in unclassified locations. The key aspect to this input is that it is not simply deleting 7.1.4, but instead is relocating Clause 7.1.4 to a new clause under 4.1 on general certification requirements (along with making some proposed revisions to the text as well). The rationale for relocating 7.1.4 is because compliance with ANSI/ISA-12.12.01 includes requirements for product labeling, user information, and design requirements, in addition to performance requirements. As written and located within the current edition of NFPA 1801, it could be mistakenly assumed that only compliance with the performance requirements in ANSI/ISA-12.12,01 is required. To address this issue, comparable text to 7.1.4 could be added under 5.1, 5.2 and 6.1, in addition to 7.1.4, but simply addressing the issue of compliance with ANSI/ISA-12.12.01 solely under 4.1 seemed simpler with less potential for confusion. See also Public Input No. 49-NFPA 1801-2015 (which includes details / rationale on the proposed revisions to the text). Submitter Full Name: PAUL KELLY Organization: UNDERWRITERS LABORATORIES INC Affilliation: UNDERWRITERS LABORATORIES INC Submittal Date: Fri Jun 05 09:03:54 EDT 2015 Resolution: See FR 17. TC decided to revise this paragraph and split out the requirements to other paragraphs 5.1.9, 5.2.8 and 6.1.8.
6 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 96-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 7.1.4 ] 7.1.4 Thermal imagers shall be tested for listing to ANSI/ISA-12.12.01, Nonincendive Electrical Equipment for Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions 1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations, and shall meet the requirements for at least Class I, Division 2, Groups C and D hazardous locations, and with a Temperature Class of T3 or T4 or T5 or T6. For the purpose of the impact test referenced in 15.4 of ANSI/ISA 12.12.01, NFPA 1801 shall be considered the applicable standard for products in unclassified locations. Assessment shall include all user removable parts in isolation and the action of removing them from the camera in the powered and unpowered state. Where the use of a tool secured feature is relied upon to meet the ANSI / ISA 12.12.01 compliance and this feature is not engaged the camera shall inform the user by way of a message that prevents camera normal use. Locking features that rely on the use of special tools to limit the ability to perform simple tasks such as battery replacement are often ignored by users that have not read the small print hidden in the product user guide. However the certification bodies are much more comfortable with this approach and adherence is recognised within the high risk Petrochemical / Mining Industries. Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 11:55:30 EDT 2015 Resolution: See FR 17.
7 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 24-NFPA 1801-2014 [ Section No. 7.1.6 ] 7.1.6 Thermal imagers shall be tested for electromagnetic emission as specified in IEC 61000-6-3 4, Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) Part 6-3 4 : Generic standards Emission standard for residential, commercial, and lightindustrial environments, and shall meet the emissions requirements. Any situation requiring first responder intervention more closely mimics an industrial environment where the functionality of the equipment takes precedence over any EMC concerns that might be in place in a residential environment under normal circumstances. The industrial standard allows equipment designers greater latitude in designing equipment that must perform reliably in difficult situations. Submitter Full Name: Craig Gestler Organization: MSA Safety, Inc Affilliation: MSA Safety, Inc Submittal Date: Tue Dec 02 08:12:10 EST 2014 Resolution: The TC believes that this is currently being done.
8 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 69-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 8.1.3.5 ] 8.1.3.5 Specimens are permitted to shall be optimally focused to 1 m by the manufacturer for this test. SR targets are designed for testing at 1 meter therefor thermal imagers should be focused at 1 meter. Submitter Full Name: JOHN MORRIS Organization: ISG INFRASYS Submittal Date: Thu Jul 02 08:02:54 EDT 2015 Resolution: FR-42-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The technical committee believes that SR targets are designed for testing at 1 meter, therefore thermal imagers should be focused at 1 meter.
9 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 85-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 8.1.3.5 ] 8.1.3.5 Specimens are permitted to be optimally focused to 1 m by the manufacturer for this test The specimens must be focused to 1m. The test chart was designed to be viewed at 1m. The results obtained from a camera not focused at 1m may lead to the analysis program producing rogue values that may indicate better or worse performance than the camera is actually capable of. A relatively low spatial resolution camera may still achieve the minimum pass criterial of SR = 0.06. In addition a camera whose focus point moves, to (2m to 3m) may also show an improvement in the SR value. (data can be presented to show this but is much too big to attach.) Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 10:07:57 EDT 2015 Resolution: See FR 42.
0 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 35-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 8.1.4.6 [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] The thermal imager positioning device shall position the thermal imager facing the spatial resolution source target at a distance of 1 m ± 5 mm (40 39.4 in. ± 0.2 in) from the outermost optical element to the stencil. The originally mentioned ranges 1m+/-5mm and 40in +/-0.2in did not even overlap. Submitter Full Name: BERND SPELLENBERG Organization: DRAEGER SAFETY AG & CO KGAA Submittal Date: Wed Feb 25 09:10:47 EST 2015 Resolution: FR-43-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The technical committee is making these conversion changes. The currently referenced ranges 1m+/-5mm and 40in +/-0.2in do not overlap.
1 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 36-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 8.1.5.11 ] 8.1.5.11 The image processing software shall scan each of the four regions of interest for the lightest pixel intensity (I max) and the darkest pixel intensity (I min). The software shall then find the contrast of each of the four regions of interest using Equation 8.1.5.11. (8.1.5.11) Additional Proposed Changes File Name Description Approved eg8_1_5_11.tif Corrected equation 8.1.5.11 Correction of math. Submitter Full Name: BERND SPELLENBERG Organization: DRAEGER SAFETY AG & CO KGAA Submittal Date: Wed Feb 25 09:13:11 EST 2015 Resolution: FR-44-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The technical committee is correcting an error in the equation.
2 of 96 9/25/2015 3:03 PM Public Input No. 37-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 8.1.5.18 ] 8.1.5.18 Each of the four sets of converging lines shall be rotated such that the center line is vertical before selecting a region of interest and performing calculations. The region of interest shall be selected from index 1 to 5 on the low frequency bars, and from index 5 to 9 on the high frequency bars. The region of interest shall be drawn along the lines as specified in Figure 8.1.5.18. No symbology shall be included in the ROI. In the case where symbology interferes with the target, the ROI shall be drawn around the interference such that horizontal lines are perpendicular to the center line and equal portions of white and dark areas are included. Figure 8.1.5.18 Region of Interest Selection. Additional Proposed Changes File Name Description Approved ROI-selection.tif original figure 8.1.5.18, rotated by 90 degrees ClockWise. Section 8.1.5.18 is asking 'that Each of the four sets of converging lines shall be rotated such that the center line is vertical before selecting a Region of interest', figure 8.1.5.18 is showing a set of converging lines with a horizontal center line. It might be clearer to Show Image with orientation that is in line with wording, i.e. rotated 90 degrees. Submitter Full Name: BERND SPELLENBERG Organization: DRAEGER SAFETY AG & CO KGAA Submittal Date: Wed Feb 25 09:25:22 EST 2015 Resolution: FR-45-NFPA 1801-2015 Statement: The technical committee believes that paragraph 8.1.5.18 is requiring that each of the four sets of converging lines shall be rotated such that the center line is vertical before selecting a region of interest. Figure 8.1.5.18 is showing a set of converging lines with a horizontal center line. It might be clearer to show the image with an orientation that is in line with the wording, i.e. the figure should be rotated 90 degrees.