AGENDA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTION OCTOBER 7, 2010 TELECONFERENCE (10:00 A.M. ET) Item No. Subject 10-10-1 Call to Order (10:00 A.M.) 10-10-2 Roll Call 10-10-3 Staff Remarks 10-10-4 Approval of the January 26-28, 2010 Meeting Minutes [Enclosure] 10-10-5 Processing of Comments [Enclosure] 10-10-6 Discussion of TIA (if needed) 10-10-7 Proposals to NFPA 72 10-10-8 New Business 10-10-9 Adjournment
Meeting Minutes of the Technical Committee on Carbon Monoxide Detection January 26-28, 2010 Tampa, FL Item 10-1-1 Call to Order Chair Tom Norton (Norel Service Company, Inc) called the meeting to order at 8:00 AM on January 26, 2010. Item 10-1-2 Roll Call In addition to the chair, the following committee members were present: Art Black (P) Wayne Boyd (P) Jeffrey Brooks (P) Shane M. Clary (P) Scott Davis (P) Lee DeVito (P) Wendy Gifford (P) Dan Gottuk (P) Rick Heffernan (P) Rick Kabele (P) James Petersen (P) Larry Ratzlaff (P) Richard Roberts (P) Jason Sutula (P) David Bush (A) Shane Courbier (A) Richard Culwell (A) Adam Hilton (A) Paul Patty (A) Rodger Reiswig (A) Carmel Fire Protection Assoc. U.S. Safety & Engineering Corp. Tyco Safety Products - TYCO Bay Alarm Company - AFFA GexCon US Firepro Inc (Consultant) Hughes Associates, Inc. SDi - NEMA Clark County Development Services Lodging Sect Peterson Engineering UTC/Kidde Safety Honeywell Life Safety Combustion Science and Engineering, Inc. UTC/Kidde Safety Gentex - NEMA 3M Company Code Consultants, Inc. Underwriters Laboratories, Inc. Tyco/SimplexGrinnell - TYCO The following committee members were not present: Bill Arron (P)* Blair Ames (P)* Brad Cronin (P) Lou Fiore (P) Philip Gauthier (P) Debra Hanson (P) John Knecht (P) John Parssinen (P)* Anthony Pierce (P) Michael Pokorny (P) James Rowland (P) Code Consultants, Inc Montgomery Ames Associates Newport Fire Department LT Fiore CSAA Gas Appliance Manufacturers Assoc AHRI First Alert BRK Brands, Inc Intertek Testing Services Underwriters Laboratories, Inc. Forsyth County (GA) Planning & Development Montgomery County, MD Quality Electric Services, LLC 1
Ed Van Walraven (P) & Jim Mundy (A) # Kurt Ruchala (A) # Don Switzer (NV) Aspen Fire Protection District, CO Asset Protection Associates, Ltd AFFA Firepro, Inc. U.S. Consumer Products Safety Commission *Alternate attended # Principal attended & Advanced notice of conflict The following NFPA Staff was present: Lee F. Richardson Item 10-1-3 Schedule and Meeting Planning The schedule for the A2011 Cycle was reviewed. The committee selected San Antonio for the ROC meeting on October 5-7, 2010. Staff reminded committee members not to make final travel arrangements until a meeting notice is sent out. (Potential exists that the meeting could be via teleconference depending on the workload.) Item 10-1-4 Processing of Proposals The committee processed 19 public proposals and 37 committee proposal. Item 10-1-5 CO Alarm Signal In conjunction with deliberations over Proposal 720-15, the committee recognized a conflict between NFPA 720 and NFPA 72 with regard to the designation and treatment of a CO alarm signal as a supervisory or other type of signal. See 4.4.3.1.1 and 5.5.4.7 of NFPA 720-2009 and 23.8.4.7 of NFPA 72-2010. The committee recognized that there can be various types of alarm signals (e.g. fire, CO, MNS, burglar) and that some systems being produced do not have the capability to distinguish between different types of alarms, while others do. A task group was formed to address this conflict and prepare a TIA for 23.8.4.7 of NFPA 72-2010. Task group members are Art Black, Shane Clary (chair), Richard Roberts, Rodger Reiswig, Paul Patty, Tom Norton and Bob Schifiliti. This TG will work with the TCC Glossary of Terms TG. Item 10-1-6 Adjournment The meeting was adjourned at approximately 4:45 PM on January 27th. (The meeting was scheduled for 2 ½ days but was completed in 2 days.) Respectfully Submitted, Lee F. Richardson, Staff Liaison 2
720- Log #4 SIG-CAR Jon Woodard, Seward, AK 720-4 Accept the revised text of 720-4 Log #15, but revise as follows: Example/Excerpt: "[c]omprising of an assembly that incorporates at least a sensor, control components..." Advises that supplemental components may be integrated into single-or-multiple-station carbon monoxide alarms, so as not to limit the components mentioned in the revised definition. See, related Comment to A.3.3.1.1. 1
720- Log #1 SIG-CAR Technical Correlating Committee on Signaling Systems for the Protection of Life and Property, 720-10e The Technical Correlating Committee advises that the proposed revision of 5.5.5.3.1 is grammatically incomplete and suggests that the words accordance with be added in the lead-in sentence as follows: "Carbon monoxide detectors shall be installed in accordance with manufacturer s published instructions in accordance with 5.5.5.3.1(1) and 5.5.5.3.1(2) or with 5.5.5.3.1(3) [remainder unchanged]. This is a direction from the Technical Correlating Committee on Signaling Systems for the Protection of Life and Property in accordance with 3.4.2 and 3.4.3 of the Regulations Governing Committee Projects. 2
720- Log #2 SIG-CAR Technical Correlating Committee on Signaling Systems for the Protection of Life and Property, 720-14c The Technical Correlating Committee advises that the term supplementary is not defined in NFPA 720 and suggests that the definition of supplementary in 3.3.272 of NFPA 72-2010 be added in NFPA 720. This is a direction from the Technical Correlating Committee on Signaling Systems for the Protection of Life and Property in accordance with 3.4.2 and 3.4.3 of the Regulations Governing Committee Projects. 3
720- Log #3 SIG-CAR Technical Correlating Committee on Signaling Systems for the Protection of Life and Property, 720-18a The Technical Correlating Committee recognizes that rewinding or resetting of CO alarms might not be needed but resetting of system-based apparatus might still be applicable. It is suggested that the committee reconsider the action on this proposal to retain the provisions for resetting. This is a direction from the Technical Correlating Committee on Signaling Systems for the Protection of Life and Property in accordance with 3.4.2 and 3.4.3 of the Regulations Governing Committee Projects. 4
720- Log #6 SIG-CAR Jon Woodard, Seward, AK N/A 9.6.8.1 [leave existing text, but revise the following] (1) Where required, immediately retransmit indication of the carbon monoxide alarm signal to the communications center. Retransmission of the carbon monoxide alarm signal may comprise a alarm data signal transmitted via a computer network interface between the supervisory station and the communications center. Encourages the use of the ANSI/APCO External Alarm Interface Information Exchange Packet Documentation ("IEPU") standard developed by the Richmond, VA. Department of Information Technology. The problems to be solved include eliminating manual phone calls from central stations to communications centers, reducing 2-3 minutes of call processing time, information errors, address errors, linguistic issues. IEPD is being adopted by over 100 jurisdictions. 5
720- Log #5 SIG-CAR Jon Woodard, Seward, AK 720-4 Add new text to read as follows: Carbon monoxide alarms may include supplemental components including visual notification appliances, LCD displays, and integrated wireless telecommunications components (e.g. cellular modules, wireless IP networking modules) for transmission of the alarm beyond the dwelling unit to a supervising station or a communications center. Explains a number of supplemental components commonly available in carbon monoxide alarms. The integration of wireless telecommunications components may increase the effectiveness of single-or multiple-station alarms, adding a supplemental function when household alarm/fire/co detection systems are unavailable to a dwelling unit for economic reasons or other factors. 6