Tuesday, June 21 st, 16 1. Called to order at 8:07am NFPA Technical Committee on Structural and Proximity Fire Fighting Protective Clothing and Equipment NFPA 1971 SECOND DRAFT MEETING Colorado Springs, CO June 21-24, 16 2. Introductions Committee Members and Guests Principal Members Present: MINUTES Stephen King Chair, FDNY (retired) George Berger US Marine Corps Installations Command Steven Corrado Underwriters Laboratories, Inc Paul Curtis L.N. Curtis & Sons Anthoney Shawn Deaton NC State University Tim Durby Prescott Fire Department Jonathan Fesik Fire Industry Repair Maintenance Inc. Patricia Freeman Globe Manufacturing Company, LLC Richard Granger Charlotte Fire Department A. Ira Harkness U.S. Department of the Navy William Haskell NIOSH-NPPTL Earl Hayden International Association of Fire Fighters John Karban FireDex, LLC Kim Klaren Fairfax County Fire & Rescue Department Steve Lakey Verified Independent Service Providers Association Karen Lehtonen Lion Group, Inc. Michael McKenna Michael McKenna & Associates, LLC Daniel Melia Fire Department City of New York Louis Ott Gentex Corporation Tom Ragan Shelby Specialty Gloves Jim Reidy Texas State Association of Fire Fighters John Rhoades International Association of Fire Chiefs John Rihn Mine Safety Appliances Company R. Wendell Robison National Volunteer Fire Council Jeffrey Stull International Personnel Protection, Inc Tim Tomlinson Addison Fire Department Robert Tutterow Fire Industry Education Resource Organization Richard Weise Southern Area Fire Equipment Research Harry Winer HIP Consulting, LLC Voting Alternate Members Present: Douglas Sloan Honeywell First Responder Products Alternate Members Present: Roger Barker (via phone) Thomas Clark Tom Hamma Tricia Hock Pamela Kavalesky Amanda Newsom Marni Schmid (Secretary) North Carolina State University International Association of Fire Fighters Heartland Fire & Rescue Safety Equipment Institute (SEI) Intertek Testing Services Underwriters Laboratories, Inc Fortunes Collide Marketing/Alt. for F.I.E.R.O.
Jeff Sedivec Jay Tarley Daniel Theriault Don Welch Patrick Woods L.N. Curtis & Sons National Institute for Occupational Safety & Health US Department of the Navy Globe Manufacturing Company Fire Department City of New York Staff Liaison Chris Farrell Dave Trebisacci National Fire Protection Association National Fire Protection Association Guests Present: Yvonne Smith Nancy Wirtes Jessica Ambrose Tim Porch Mark Williams Matt Colatruglio Charles Dunn Eric Baker Bart McCool David Esken John E Ashley Brian Sullivan Jacques Cantin Allen Rom Tory King Brian Marenco Jim Walter Angel Sanchez, Jr Shaun Russell Bill Burke Jenny McPherson Jack Kay Scott Mackenzie Mike Salvato Robin Tutor Jennifer Wise Bill Brooks Dan Tharan Gretchen Grandt-Brown Jian Xiang Jordan Carlen David Litchfield Mark Collins Ed MacDonald Matthew Decker Allen Maples Rob Tieman Matt Ernst Tom Lochner Michelle Gervais Janeane Matvin Bob Keys Kevin Roche Jen Brust Brian Shiels Diane B Hess NFPA NFPA Globe Manufacturing Company 3M Personal Safety Division Milliken & Co Milliken & Co Safety Components Honeywell Honeywell Phenix Technology, Inc. Phenix Technology, Inc. UL UniMac Veridian PGI, Inc Stanfield s/lifeliners Stanfield s/lifeliners Bullard Bullard Fire Craft Fire Service Women Ontario, Canada Majestic Fire Apparel Fire-Research and Development of NY Consulting, LLC FACETS Consulting Honeywell First Responder Products PBI Performance Products PBI Performance Products
Chris Gaudette Tom Flaherty Joey Underwood ORAFOL Americas ORAFOL Americas Safety Components 3. Opening remarks 4. The minutes from the previous meeting were reviewed and approved 5. NFPA Staff Liaison report 6. Presentations 7. Task Group Reports 1. David Litchfield, Ph.D. Research Investigator, Protection Technologies, presented Rationales to the Particulate Barrier Hood Standard Proposal 2. Steven Corrado, UL, LLC, opened the presentation by explaining what is being proposed for ASTM F2299; Holly Blake, & Associates, presented information on particulate and moisture barrier hoods 3. Matthew Decker, & Associates, presented Physiological Trial Summary 4. Michael Salvato, USA, presented Why Ret is a Misleading a. The Technical Committee acted on 134 Public Comments and created 63 Second Revisions i. There was a Call for Division on Public Comment 105. Motion to accept: 25 voted in favor, 2 opposed, 6 abstained ii. There was a Call for Division on Public Comment 128. Motion to reject: 17 voted in favor, 8 opposed, 5 abstained 8. New business a. Robert Tutterow announced the F.I.E.R.O. Fire PPE Symposium to be held March -22, 17 in Raleigh. b. Chairman King disbanded all existing NFPA 1971 task groups, the NFPA 1851 Risk Assessment and Common Chemicals task groups. c. Chairman King assigned new task groups based on additional work requirements identified during the Second Draft meeting. 9. Old business - none i. Helmets - Ear flap removal / Helmet band removal/cleaning Dick Weise, task group chair ii. Hoods - Flexing Procedure for particulate barrier hoods / Stored thermal energy / Advance Cleaning and Inspection of Barrier Hoods Rich Granger, task group chair iii. Ret Earl Hayden, task group chair (see attached for testing results shared from test methods task group) iv. Helmet eye and face protection, Robert Tutterow, task group chair v. Editorial this task group was not disbanded because the current focus is on NFPA 1851 Marni Schmid, task group chair 10. Other items - none 11. Next meeting: NFPA 1851 - February and December, 17 d. The First Draft meeting will likely be held in late February. The Public Input period closes January 5, 17. 12. Adjourned at 4:51pm, Thursday, June 23, 16
Total Heat Loss and Water Vapor Resistance Testing Organized by Test Methods Task Group Designation Composite Moisture Barrier Thermal Liner Outer Shell Ret THL ARef A 8 Steadair 00 Aralite NP Ultra 31.85 6.9 0.08 B 3 Crosstech 3 Layer 4A Defender M SL2 Kombat Flex 26.48 218.1 0.0213 C 1 RT7100 3D Glide Gold Pure Armor 7.0 45.17 219.8 0.0187 D 11 Steadair Gold Caldura Npi Gemini 53.07 222.2 0.0196 E 7 Parallon System Parallon System Advance 24.01 234 0.06 F 5 Crosstech Black 2F Q8 Gemini 27.3 249.8 0.0162 G 4 Crosstech Black 2F Glide Gold Pure Gemini 28.62 252.03 0.016703 H 10 Steadair 00 Q8 Ultra 62 255.8 0.0157 I 6 Crosstech Black 2F Caldura SL2i Pioneer 25.01 281.5 0.0149 J 9 Steadair 00 Caldura SL2i Mellenia XTL 53.46 285.2 0.0146 K 12 Steadair Gold Aralite SL2 Defender 7 49.51 296.5 0.0129 L 2 RT7100 3D Omni Synergy 2Layer Defender 7 38.21 3.38 0.012616 3 70 325 0 275 2 225 0 175 THL Compliant NFPA 1971 THL Req't 1 125 100 Proposed Ret Req't A B C D E F G H I J K L THL Ret
Comparisons Desig THL Ret A 6.9 31.85 B 218.1 26.48 C 219.8 45.17 D 222.2 53.07 E 234 24.01 F 249.8 27.3 G 252.03 28.62 H 255.8 62 I 281.5 25.01 J 285.2 53.46 K 296.5 49.51 L 3.38 38.21 65 55 45 35 25 Ret vs. THL y = 0.0836x + 17.659 R² = 0.043 0 2 2 2 280 0 3 Desig THL Aref A 6.9 0.08 B 218.1 0.0213 C 219.8 0.0187 D 222.2 0.0196 E 234 0.06 F 249.8 0.0162 G 252.03 0.016703 H 255.8 0.0157 I 281.5 0.0149 J 285.2 0.0146 K 296.5 0.0129 L 3.38 0.012616 ARef (kpa m 2 /W) 0.022 0.02 0.018 0.016 0.014 0.012 ARef vs. THL y = -9E-05x + 0.0394 R² = 0.9074 0.01 0 2 2 2 280 0 3 Desig Aref Ret A 0.08 31.85 B 0.0213 26.48 C 0.0187 45.17 D 0.0196 53.07 E 0.06 24.01 F 0.0162 27.3 G 0.016703 28.62 H 0.0157 62 I 0.0149 25.01 J 0.0146 53.46 K 0.0129 49.51 L 0.012616 38.21 65 55 45 35 25 Ret vs. ARef y = -1441.9x + 63.311 R² = 0.1106 0.01 0.012 0.014 0.016 0.018 0.02 0.022 ARef (kpa m 2 /W)