TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON FINISHING PROCESSES Second Draft Meeting Agenda February 28-March 2, 2017 8 AM-5 PM Courtyard by Marriot-Portland City Center Portland, Oregon Continental breakfast will be provided each morning at 7:30 AM. Lunch provided on Day One. 1. Call to Order-Committee Chair, Tom Euson. 2. Introduction of Attendees and Update of Committee Roster. (Attached) 3. Approval of Minutes of First Draft Meeting. (Attached) 4. Report of Staff Liaison-Presentation on Second Draft Meeting. 5. Review of Public Comments for NFPA 33. (Attached) 6. Task Group and Individual Reports Automated Electrostatic Systems-Tom George,TG Chair (Committee Input 50 and PI 91-attached) Definition of Continuous in NFPA 33-Geoff Raifsnider TG Chair Chapter 8 Review-John LeBlanc, TG Chair (includes proposed changes shown in Committee Input 42-attached) Ability of Flame Detection Below Spray Booth Grates- Tom Euson, TG Chair Flow Chart for Fire Protection NFPA 33 Geoff Raifsnider Recirculation Filters NFPA 34 Geoff Raifsnider Expansion of Figures in 6.4 NFPA 34. See Committee input 12 (attached) 7. New Business/Issues arising since FD Meeting (see attached) 8. Spray Operations Movie Education Time. 9. Formation of Task Groups for Next Revision Cycle. Research Foundation-Possible Proposal on Booth Classification for High Flash Solvents NFPA Conference Presentations CNG Compliant Spray Booths 10. Timeline for Balloting and Next Revision Cycle. 11. Adjournment.
I. ATTENDANCE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON FINISHING PROCESSES MINUTES of MEETING Technical Committee on Finishing Processes Hilton Savannah DeSoto Savannah, Georgia February 23-25, 2016 Thomas Euson, 3S Incorporated, Chair Geoffrey Raifsnider, Global Finishing Solutions, Secretary Shane Adams, Rancho Cucamonga Fire Protection District William Anderson, Approved Fire Protection Company, Inc. (Rep Natl Assoc. of Fire Equipment) Donald Ankele, Underwriters Laboratories Inc. Jeff Bennett, New-Tech Coating Automation, Inc.* John Bloomgren, Infinity Precision, Inc. Dale Bonn, Traveler s Insurance** Mark Bowman, XL Global Asset Protection Services Luc Durand, Saskatoon Fire Department * Ruby Evans, FM Global** Robert Feldkamp, Nordson Corporation Thomas Flannery, AzkoNobel Powder Coatings** Paul Gentry, Zurich Services Corporation Thomas George, Tokio Marine Management, Inc. John Gokey, Tyco Fire Protection Products James Gustin, Travelers Insurance Company Brian Haynack, Sherwin-Williams Company Richard Hild, DuPont/Axalta Coating Systems** Jeffrey Bryant, DuPont/Axalta Coating Systems Anton Jensen, Jr. Liberty Mutual Insurance Company Steven Jensen, 3M Company* Edward Jones, Nordson Corporation** Guy Jones, Amerex Corporation John Jurasic, Spray Tech Enclosures** Martin Korecky, Rohm and Haas Company John LeBlanc, FM Global John McKnight, National Marine Manufacturers Association (Rep. Society of the Plastics Industry) Lowell Miles, Miles Fiberglass & Composites (Rep. American Composites Manufacturers Association) Jarod Mosely, Toyota Engineering & Manufacturing Laura Radle, The Boeing Company Mark Rascio - Tokio Marine** Don Scarbrough Brian Schadrie, Global Finishing Solutions** James Sute, General Motors (Rep NFPA Industrial Protection Section)** Dawn Svenkeson, Graco** Barry Thomas, BECCA Incorporated Mike Thies, GEMA USA Inc., NFPA Staff Liaison *Conference call ** s FAA.2017 Meeting Minutes - 160222.doc
GUESTS: Don Kirkham-Molded Fiberglass Steve Gunsel John Schweitzer American Composite Mfr Association Larry Floyd, BASF Corporation Jim Parks - Lauderdale Marine Ryan Watt - Duroair Systems II. MINUTES 1. The meeting was called to order by Technical Committee Chair Tom Euson at 8:00 AM on Tuesday, February 23. 2. Attendees introduced themselves. The Technical Committee roster was corrected as necessary. 3. The Minutes of the last meeting (March 24-25, 2015 Pre-First Draft Meeting) were approved as submitted. 4. Technical Committee Chair Tom Euson reviewed the meeting agenda. 5. NFPA Staff Liaison presented on First Draft Meeting Process: 6. The Committee completed a review of 89 Public inputs for NFPA 33 and 8 public inputs for NFPA 34. First Revisions and Committee inputs were created as determined by the Committee. 7. Proposed changes to figures in both NFPA 33 and NFPA 34 were reviewed and entered as First Revisions. The Committee agreed to have John Bloomgren create drawings for NFPA 34 Figure 6.4(c) that would be submitted as a first revision or committee input. 8. Larry Floyd with BASF Corporation addressed the committee regarding electrical area classifications for a specific type of spray booth. 9. Movie Education Time was tabled for the next meeting due to lack of time. 10. Task Groups were formed for the following items: Review and create Public Comment on CI 50 (related to PI 91) Automated Electrostatic Systems. Task Group: Tom George (chair), Don Scarbrough, Don Ankele, Dawn Svenkeson, Jarod Moseley, Jim Sute Review and create Public Comment on clarification of Continuous in Chapter 9. Task Group: Geoff Raifsnider (Chair), Bryant Jeffrey, Thomas George, Bob Feldkamp, Don Scarbrough, Laura Radle, Richard Hild, John LeBlanc, Jim Sute, Jarod Mosely. Will coordinate with Marty Korecky s task group on powder. Chapter 8 Review. Task Group: John LeBlanc (Chair), Geoff Raifsnider, Brian Haynack, Jim Sute 11. Outstanding items still to be addressed include: Research Foundation proposal on booth classification for high-flash solvents NFPA 33 Ability of flame detection below spray booth grates-nfpa 33 Revise flow chart for fire protection in NFPA 33 Recirculation Filters in NFPA 34 12. The date and location for the Second Draft meeting was discussed. Possible locations included Portland or San Diego. The date was tentatively set for February 26, 2017 through March 2, 2017. 13. The Technical Committee meeting adjourned at 12:00 PM on February 25, 2016. FAA.2017 Meeting Minutes - 160222.doc
Address List No Phone Finishing Processes 01/31/2017 Thomas G. Euson Chair 3S Incorporated 8686 Southwest Parkway Harrison, IN 45030 : Matthew M. Euson IM 1/1/1988 Geoffrey A. Raifsnider Secretary Global Finishing Solutions 12731 Norway Road Osseo, WI 54758-7780 : Brian P. Schadrie M 8/5/2009 Shane A. Adams Rancho Cucamonga Fire Protection District 10500 Civic Center Drive Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730 E 08/09/2012 William C. Anderson Approved Fire Protection Company, Inc. 2513 North Burdick Street Kalamazoo, MI 49007 National Association of Fire Equipment Distributors IM 7/20/2000 Donald W. Ankele UL LLC 333 Pfingsten Road Northbrook, IL 60062-2096 : Michael A. Slowinske RT 1/14/2005 Jeffrey R. Bennett New-Tech Coating Automation, Inc. 7515 Fieldstone Court Indianapolis, IN 46254-9718 SE 08/17/2015 John D. Bloomgren Infinity Precision Systems, LLC 7850 Park Drive Chanhassen, MN 55317-9500 : Mark W. Roeber M 4/1/1993 Mark A. Bowman Global Asset Protection Services, LLC 13467 Chevington Drive Pickerington, OH 43147 : Jeffrey A. Spiesz I 10/28/2008 Mark Dubbin Las Cruces Fire Department 201 East Picacho Avenue PO Box 20000 Las Cruces, NM 88004 E 08/03/2016 Luc Durand Saskatoon Fire Department Prevention and Investigation Division 125 Idylwyld Drive South Saskatoon, SK S7M 1L4 Canada E 10/23/2013 Robert J. Feldkamp Nordson Corporation 300 Nordson Drive Amherst, OH 44001 : Edward L. Jones M 7/24/1997 Paul B. Gentry Zurich Services Corporation Risk Engineering 1047 Waldron Road La Vergne, TN 37086 : James W. Taylor I 10/4/2001 Thomas B. George Tokio Marine Management, Inc. PO Box 1414 Dublin, OH 43017 : Mark C. Rascio I 1/15/2004 John Gokey Tyco Fire Protection Products One Stanton Street Marinette, WI 54143-2542 : Jeffrey A. Breighner M 7/1/1993 1
Address List No Phone Finishing Processes 01/31/2017 James S. Gustin Travelers Insurance Company Risk Control PO Box 473500 Charlotte, NC 28247-3500 : Dale S. Bonn I 3/1/2011 Brian K. Haynack Sherwin-Williams Company 101 Prospect Ave. NW, Midland Bldg. 400 Cleveland, OH 44115 American Industrial Hygiene Association M 7/26/2007 Bryant C. Jeffrey Axalta Coating Systems Route 141 & Henry Clay Building E308, Room 215 Wilmington, DE 19803 : Richard J. Hild M 10/23/2013 Anton Jensen, Jr. Liberty Mutual Insurance Company Regional Engineering Manager 200 Galleria Parkway, SE, Suite 550 Atlanta, GA 30339 : Skip Donnell I 03/03/2014 Steven D. Jensen 3M Company 915 Adams Street, SE Hutchinson, MN 55350-9431 U 4/1/1995 Guy L. Jones, Jr. Amerex Corporation 7595 Gadsden Highway PO Box 81 Trussville, AL 35173-0081 Fire Equipment Manufacturers' Association : William Vegso M 03/05/2012 Martin J. Korecky AkzoNobel Powder Coatings 416 Pennwyn Place Shillington, PA 19607 : Thomas Flannery M 3/15/2007 John A. LeBlanc FM Global 1151 Boston-Providence Turnpike PO Box 9102 Norwood, MA 02062-9102 : Ruby Evans I 8/5/2009 John McKnight National Marine Manufacturers Association 650 Massachusetts Avenue NW, Suite 520 Washington, DC 20001-3705 Society of the Plastics Industry, Inc. U 4/1/1996 Lowell Miles Miles Fiberglass & Composites 8855 SE Otty Road Portland, OR 97086-2327 American Composites Manufacturers Association : Donald R. Kirkham U 1/1/1986 Jarod M. Moseley Toyota Engineering & Manufacturing 37 Atlantic Avenue Erlanger, KY 41018-3151 U 04/08/2015 Jim Pakkala Durr Systems, Inc. 26801 Northwestern Highway Southfield, MI 48033 M 11/30/2016 2
Address List No Phone Finishing Processes 01/31/2017 Laura Radle The Boeing Company 9211 National Blvd., Apt 5 Los Angeles, CA 90034-8507 : Eli Horden U 08/17/2015 Don Scarbrough 550 Randall Road Elyria, OH 44035 SE 1/1/1972 James M. Sute General Motors Company 19080 Parkwood Lane Brownstown Township, MI 48183 NFPA Industrial Fire Protection Section : Dean Doherty M 07/29/2013 Mike Thies GEMA USA, Inc. 4141 West 54th Street Indianapolis, IN 46254 : Dawn Svenkeson M 10/23/2013 Barry Thomas BECCA Inc. 2010 Cobb International Blvd. Kennesaw, GA 30152 : John S. Jurasic M 1/1/1996 Jared R. Van Gammeren Midwestern Mechanical 4105 North Lewis Sioux Falls, SD 57104-5572 American Fire Sprinkler Association IM 08/17/2015 Kevin J. Wolf Voting Intertek Testing Services 3933 US Route 11 Cortland, NY 13045-9715 Intertek Testing Services RT 11/30/2016 Dale S. Bonn Travelers Insurance Companies One Tower Square, #11GS Hartford, CT 06183-0001 : James S. Gustin I 08/17/2015 Jeffrey A. Breighner Tyco/SimplexGrinnell 4301 Edro Avenue Nottingham, MD 21236 : John Gokey M 8/5/2009 Dean Doherty General Motors Company 30300 Mount Road, Mailcode 480-109-161 PO Box 9040 Warren, MI 48090 NFPA Industrial Fire Protection Section : James M. Sute U 1/16/2003 Skip Donnell Liberty Mutual Insurance Company Engineering Manager Central 3350 Carly Lane Indianapolis, IN 46235-9146 : Anton Jensen, Jr. I 03/03/2014 Matthew M. Euson 3S Incorporated 8686 Southwest Parkway Harrison, IN 45030 : Thomas G. Euson IM 10/28/2008 3
Address List No Phone Finishing Processes 01/31/2017 Ruby Evans FM Global 1151 Boston-Providence Turnpike PO Box 9102 Norwood, MA 02062-9102 : John A. LeBlanc I 12/08/2015 Thomas Flannery AkzoNobel Powder Coatings 13963 Wakefield Place Fishers, IN 46038-4516 : Martin J. Korecky M 03/03/2014 Richard J. Hild Axalta Coating Systems 1003 Bogart Circle Bel Air, MD 21014 : Bryant C. Jeffrey M 10/23/2013 Eli Horden The Boeing Company PO Box 3707 MC 17-WE Seattle, WA 98124 : Laura Radle U 08/03/2016 Edward L. Jones Nordson Corporation 300 Nordson Drive, M/S 42 Amherst, OH 44001 : Robert J. Feldkamp M 7/26/2007 John S. Jurasic Spray Tech Enclosures 1427 Noth Linden Avenue Rialto, CA 92376-8601 : Barry Thomas M 1/18/2001 Donald R. Kirkham U 04/05/2016 Molded Fiberglass Companies 1401 Brown County Road, #19N Aberdeen, SD 57401 American Composites Manufacturers Association : Lowell Miles Mark C. Rascio Tokio Marine Management, Inc. 8211 Tinkerton Court Mint Hill, NC 28227-8938 : Thomas B. George I 08/11/2014 Mark W. Roeber Infinity Precision Systems, LLC 7850 Park Drive Chanhassen, MN 55317-9500 : John D. Bloomgren M 08/11/2014 Brian P. Schadrie Global Finishing Solutions 12731 Norway Road Osseo, WI 54758-7780 : Geoffrey A. Raifsnider M 04/08/2015 Michael A. Slowinske UL LLC 333 Pfingsten Road Northbrook, IL 60062-2096 : Donald W. Ankele RT 7/22/1999 Jeffrey A. Spiesz Global Asset Protection Services, LLC 8906 Root Road North Ridgeville, OH 44039 : Mark A. Bowman I 07/29/2013 4
Address List No Phone Finishing Processes 01/31/2017 Dawn Svenkeson Graco 88 11th Avenue NE Minneapolis, MN 55413-1829 : Mike Thies M 08/17/2015 James W. Taylor Zurich Services Corporation 545 Saddle Lane Cookeville, TN 38501 : Paul B. Gentry I 3/4/2009 William Vegso Buckeye Fire Equipment Company 110 Kings Road Kings Mountain, NC 28086-2090 Fire Equipment Manufacturers' Association : Guy L. Jones, Jr. M 3/15/2007 William R. Hamilton Nonvoting Member US Department of Labor Occupational Safety & Health Administration 200 Constitution Ave. NW, Room N3609 Washington, DC 20210 E 3/4/2009 Staff Liaison National Fire Protection Association 1 Batterymarch Park Quincy, MA 02169-7471 1/11/2012 5
National Fire Protection Association Report http://submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/contentfetcher?commentpara... 1 of 2 1/31/2017 2:14 PM Public Comment No. 1-NFPA 33-2016 [ Section No. 17.7.2 ] 17.7.2 Excess catalyzed resin, while still in the liquid state, shall be drained into an open-top, noncombustible container. Enough water shall be added to the container to cover the contained resin by at least 50 mm (2 in.). Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment The water serves no purpose. Adding water violates EPA's POLYM waste treatment regulation, which allows polymerization of scrap resin in containers but does not specify the addition of water. Polymerized resin can be disposed of as ordinary waste, but the water is hazardous waste and must be disposed of accordingly. Related Item First Revision No. 32-NFPA 33-2016 [Section No. 17.6.1] Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: John Schweitzer Organization: American Composites Manufacturers Association Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Tue Oct 04 07:59:14 EDT 2016
National Fire Protection Association Report http://submittals.nfpa.org/terraviewweb/contentfetcher?commentpara... 2 of 2 1/31/2017 2:14 PM Public Comment No. 2-NFPA 33-2016 [ Section No. 17.7.3.1 ] 17.7.3.1 When the accumulated overchop Accumulated overchop shall be disposed of when it has reached an average thickness of 50 mm (2 in.), it shall be disposed of when cured. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment This revision removes the requirement for the overchop to be cured. Air inhibition prevents overchop from curing. Also many fabricators scoop up and weigh overchop frequently during each shift as a quality control measure. Related Item First Revision No. 33-NFPA 33-2016 [Section No. 17.7.3] Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: John Schweitzer Organization: American Composites Manufacturers Association Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Tue Oct 04 08:10:00 EDT 2016
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