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1 NFPA Technical Committee on Fire Service Training MEETING AGENDA Tampa, FL February 26-27, 2015 Chair Richard s calls meeting to order on February 26, 2015 at 8:00 am. Invocation. Welcome and Opening Remarks. Introduction of attendees. Approval of the minutes of the February 25-27, 2014, Charlotte, NC meeting. (Attachment A). Review purpose of meeting and document schedules (Attachment B). Review public inputs/develop first revision on 1401 and 1403 (Attachment C). Old business (Attachment D) Letter on SCBA to 1981 and 1500 Reorganization New business. Date and location of next meeting. Adjournment. 1

2 ATTACHMENT A 2

3 Technical Committee Fire Service Training Charlotte, NC February 25-27, 2014 MINUTES The meeting was called to order by Chair Richards at 8:00 am. Invocation by Dan Rossos. Introduction of Attendees Members Present: Kenneth Richards, Chair, Old Mystic Fire Department, CT Steven Sawyer, NFPA Staff W. Edward Buchanan, Hanover Fire & EMS, VA James Cannell, Columbus Ohio Division of Fire, OH Rick Egelin, Fireblast 451 Inc, CA William Glover, High Temperature Linings, VA Larry Hughes, North Carolina Department of Insurance, NC Roger LeBoeuf, Elliott, LeBoeuf & McElwain, VA Gordon Lohmeyer, TEEX, TX Lavern Lucas, Hilton Head Island Fire & Rescue, SC Daniel Madrzykowski, US National Institute of Standards & Technology, MD F. Patrick Mariatt, Maryland Fire and Rescue Institute, MD Brent Norwine, CAL-FIRE/Riverside County FD, CA William Peterson, IFMA, TX Robert Raheb, FAAC, Inc., NY Daniel Rossos, Oregon Department of Public Safety Standards & Training, OR Daniel Shaw, Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Department, MD Gary Simpson, E.D. Bullard Company, KY Steven Weinstein, Honeywell Safety Products Phil Welch, Gastonia Fire Department, NC Steven Williamson, UTC/Kidde Fire Trainers, Inc., NJ Corey Wilson, Portland Fire & Rescue, OR Michael Young, Volunteer Firemen s Insurance Services, Inc., PA David Britton, Alternate, Hilton Head Island Fire & Rescue, SC Derrick Clouston, Alternate, North Carolina Department of Insurance, NC Roland Fredrickson, Alternate, City of Corona FD, CA Chris Hubbard, Alternate, Hanover Fire Ems Department, WA Mark Rutherford, Alternate, Gastonia FD, NC Guests Present: Roxanne Bercik, IFSTA, OR Beverly Gulledge, Scott Safety 3

4 Members not present: Wesley Barbour, Crossbar International LLC, NY John Brown, Nassau County Fire Services Academy, NY Mike Gagliano, Seattle FD, WA Cortez Lawrence, US Department of Homeland Security, MD Kevin Munson, West Hartford Fire Department, CT Ryan O Donnell, BullEx Inc., NY James Podolske, US Department of the Air Force, FL Michael Wieder, Voting Alternate, Fire Protection Publications, OK Adam Barowy, Alternate, NIST, MD John Blackburn, Alternate, BullEx Inc., NY William Jenaway, Alternate, VFIS, Inc., PA Jeremy Jones, Alternate, Elliott, Leboeuf & McElwain, PA Steven Luftig, Alternate, UTC/Kidde Fire Trainers, Inc., NJ Douglas Mitchell, Alternate, Fire Department City of New York, NY Denis Onieal, Alternate, US Department of Homeland Security, MD Ron Peddy, Alternate, Texas Engineering Extension Service, TX Michael Yacovino, Alternate, Canton Fire Marshal Office, CT Motion made, seconded and accepted to approval of the minutes of the February 25-27, 2013 San Diego, CA meeting. Chief Phil Welch, Chief Hanna and Chief Gordon of Charlotte FD made opening and welcoming remarks. The purpose of meeting and document schedules was reviewed. Second revisions were developed and public comments acted on for 13E, 1408, 1410 and 1452, see Second Drafts. First revisions were developed for 1405, see First Draft. Old business. Task Group Reports 1402 Discussion was held on the standards council decision. Motion made, seconded and approved to make 1402 a standard to address building issues and gas props and give responsibility of development to a new committee. Motion made, seconded and approved to ask the standards council to let the fire service training committee maintain 1402 as a guide in Fall 2016 cycle until the new committee develops the draft and enters cycle. Gas Props See 1402 discussion. Letter to 1981 and 1500 Dan gave an update on the letter sent to 1981 and The TIA to 1404 has been held up waiting for direction. 4

5 Communication training standard Cory gave an update on the new radio standard. No action is needed at this time. New business. Reorganization discussed the issue of looking at reorganization of the project. A presentation on Live Fire Training was made by Brent. 1401, 1402 and 1403 Task Groups should begin looking at their documents for the next meeting. The next meeting will be held on February 24-25, 2015 in Fort Lauderdale, FL. The meeting adjourned on February 26, 2014 at 1:45 pm. Respectfully Submitted, Steven F. Sawyer Staff Liaison 5

6 ATTACHMENT B 6

7 2016 FALL REVISION CYCLE *Public Input Dates may vary according to standards and schedules for Revision Cycles may change. Please check the NFPA Website for the most up to date information on Public Input Closing Dates and schedules at # (i.e. and click on the Next Edition tab. Process Stage Process Step Dates for TC Dates for TC with CC Public Input Closing Date* 1/5/15 1/5/15 Final Date for TC First Draft Meeting 6/15/15 3/16/15 Public Input Posting of First Draft and TC Ballot 8/3/15 4/27/15 Stage Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot 8/24/15 5/18/15 (First Draft) Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot recirc 8/31/15 5/25/15 Posting of First Draft for CC Meeting 6/1/15 Final date for CC First Draft Meeting 7/13/15 Posting of First Draft and CC Ballot 8/3/15 Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot 8/24/15 Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot recirc 8/31/15 Post First Draft Report for Public Comment 9/7/15 9/7/15 Public Comment closing date 11/16/15 11/16/15 Final Date to Publish Notice of Consent Standards (Standards that 11/30/15 11/30/15 received no Comments) Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards (Standards that received 12/14/15 12/14/15 no Comments) Final date for TC Second Draft Meeting 5/2/16 1/25/16 Comment Posting of Second Draft and TC Ballot 6/13/16 3/7/16 Stage Final date for Receipt of TC Second Draft ballot 7/5/16 3/28/16 (Second Final date for receipt of TC Second Draft ballot recirc 7/11/16 4/4/16 Draft) Posting of Second Draft for CC Meeting 4/11/16 Final date for CC Second Draft Meeting 5/23/16 Posting of Second Draft for CC Ballot 6/13/16 Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot 7/5/16 Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot recirc 7/11/16 Post Second Draft Report for NITMAM Review 7/18/16 7/18/16 Tech Session Notice of Intent to Make a Motion (NITMAM) Closing Date 8/22/16 8/22/16 Preparation Posting of Certified Amending Motions (CAMs) and Consent 10/17/16 10/17/16 Standards (& Issuance) Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards 11/1/16 11/1/16 SC Issuance Date for Consent Standards 11/11/16 11/11/16 Tech Session Association Meeting for Standards with CAMs 6/4 7/17 6/4 7/17 Appeals and Appeal Closing Date for Standards with CAMs 6/27/17 6/27/17 Issuance SC Issuance Date for Standards with CAMs 8/10/17 8/10/17 Approved October 30, 2012 Revised 7

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10 Public Input No. 3-NFPA [ Section No ] Fire service organizations utilizing this document for the establishment, upgrade, or evaluation of their training records and report systems should be able to document clearly the performance and ability of individual and group activities related to the following: (1) Compliance with personnel performance standards (2) Documentation of both internally and externally obtained career development training and education (3) Documentation for the purposes of certification and recertification, recertification, licensure and relicensure. (4) Documentation for the purposes of accreditation through such agencies as the Commission on Fire Accreditation International (CFAI) and other such organizations (5) Cooperation with other agencies with which the organization executes joint specialty operations (e.g., emergency medical services) (6) Training required by regulatory and/or other agencies [e.g., Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), International Standards Organization (ISO) and Insurance Services Office] (7) Training required to provide emergency medical care (e.g., first responder, emergency medical technician, first aid, cardiopulmonary resuscitation, automatic external defibrillations) (8) Training and certifications for participations in regional, state, and national response teams (e.g., urban search and rescue teams, disaster medical assistance teams, disaster mortuary operational teams, incident management teams, and National Wildfire Coordination Group teams) (9) Equivalent training or experiential learning used to provide an alternative credit for department, local, state, or national training requirements, specifically comparing the experiences being accepted to the training requirements being set aside Licensure is similar but different from certification and should also be called out in the list of items that are appropriate to document. Submitter Full Name: Anthony Apfelbeck Organization: Altamonte Springs Building/Fire Safety Division Submittal Date: Tue Nov 19 19:56:58 EST of 5 1/6/2015 8:26 AM

11 of 5 1/6/2015 8:26 AM Public Input No. 5-NFPA [ New Section after ] Quality Control The organization should establish a quality control oversight system to review training records for accuracy. Quality control of training records management is important to maintain credibility and accuracy of the training program. Submitter Full Name: Anthony Apfelbeck Organization: Altamonte Springs Building/Fire Safety Division Submittal Date: Tue Nov 19 20:07:01 EST

12 Public Input No. 4-NFPA [ Section No ] These documents should relay to the reader at least five specific elements of information as follows (see Annex B for examples of training record forms): (1) Who (a) (b) (c) (d) (e) Who was the instructor? Who participated? Who was in attendance? Who is affected by the documents? Who was included in the training (individuals, company, multi-company, or organization)? (2) What (a) (b) (c) (d) (e) What was the subject covered? What equipment was utilized? What operation was evaluated or affected? What was the stated objective, and was it met? What was the length of the training? (3) When (a) (b) When will the training take place? or When did the training take place? (4) Where (a) (b) Where will the training take place? or Where did the training take place? (5) Why (a) (b) Why is the training necessary? or Why did the training occur? The length of the training is important to document. Was the training session one hour or eight hours? The length of the training is required in order for most third party organizations to recognize the training and provide credit for certification, recertification or evaluation. of 5 Submitter Full Name: Anthony Apfelbeck Organization: Altamonte Springs Building/Fire Safety Division Submittal Date: Tue Nov 19 20:02:49 EST /6/2015 8:26 AM

13 of 5 1/6/2015 8:26 AM Public Input No. 2-NFPA [ New Section after ] Public Records Requests A policy should be developed to address how public records requests are processed in the organization to ensure privacy laws and public records disclosure laws are complied with by the organziation Current employees should be notified of any public records requests that are made of their training records. Compliance and noncompliance with public records requests can be an issue of high sensitivity for employees, the agency and citizens in addition to creating liability exposure. The department should establish a policy as to how these requests are dealt with in order to limit exposure. In addition, a current employee should be notified if a public records request is filed to see an employees training records. Submitter Full Name: Anthony Apfelbeck Organization: Altamonte Springs Building/Fire Safety Division Submittal Date: Tue Nov 19 19:48:27 EST

14 Public Input No. 1-NFPA [ Section No ] Length of Time for Keeping Records or Reports * Legal counsel should be contacted concerning the length of time records or reports, or both, need to be kept available and documented in a records retention schedule. [See Figure B.1(m) for a sample schedule.] Documents should be maintained for a period of time as specified by law or as required by certain agencies and organizations A record of documents disposed of in compliance with the records retention schedule should be kept. As records are disposed of, the agency should document the records disposal process to show compliance with the adopted schedule and respond to any potential litigation. Example: Training records for the year 1995 were disposed of on January 15th 2006 after the mandatory 10 year retention. Destruction was completed by shredding methods accomplished by employee X. Submitter Full Name: Anthony Apfelbeck Organization: Altamonte Springs Building/Fire Safety Division Submittal Date: Tue Nov 19 19:37:16 EST of 5 1/6/2015 8:26 AM

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16 Public Input No. 18-NFPA [ Section No ] The purpose of this standard shall be to provide a process for conducting live fire training evolutions to ensure that they are conducted in safe in appropriate facilities and that the exposure to health and safety hazards for the fire fighters receiving the training is minimized. Safe is not measurable. Like other training guidelines and standards safe has been removed. Submitter Full Name: Brent Norwine Organization: CAL-FIRE/Riverside County Fire Submittal Date: Sat Nov 01 09:37:21 EDT of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

17 Public Input No. 19-NFPA [ Section No ] Live fire training is intended to provide the safest and best experience possible under both realistic and controlled circumstances. safest is not measurable. All training guidelines and standards have had this removed. Submitter Full Name: Brent Norwine Organization: CAL-FIRE/Riverside County Fire Submittal Date: Sat Nov 01 09:46:06 EDT 2014 of /6/2015 8:34 AM

18 of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM Public Input No. 21-NFPA [ New Section after ] TITLE OF NEW CONTENT -New definition: Type your content here XX Hyperthermic - An environment with a temperature above approximately 40 C (104 F). Hyperthermic is not currently defined in NFPA 1403 Submitter Full Name: William Peterson Organization: [ Not Specified ] Affilliation: International Fire Marshals Association Submittal Date: Wed Dec 10 14:56:51 EST

19 Public Input No. 35-NFPA [ Section No ] Specialized Training Environment. Environment using live fire where advanced, specialized training is conducted that relates to fire dynamics, rapid intervention, and thermal imaging Student. Any person who is present at the live fire training evolution for the purpose of receiving training. Adding the definition will clarify what environments are considered to encompass Specialized Training Environments. This will be necessary if the new chapter on special training environments is added to the standard. Submitter Full Name: Derrick Clouston Organization: Submittal Date: Sat Jan 03 13:43:15 EST of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

20 Public Input No. 22-NFPA [ Section No. 4.3 ] 4.3 Student Prerequisites * Prior to being permitted to participate in live fire training evolutions, the student shall have received training to meet the minimum job performance requirements for Fire Fighter I in NFPA 1001, Standard for Fire Fighter Professional Qualifications, related to the following subjects: (1) Safety (2) Fire behavior (3) Portable extinguishers (4) Personal protective equipment (5) Ladders (6) Fire hose, appliances, and streams (7) Overhaul (8) Water supply (9) Ventilation (10) Forcible entry (11) Building construction 20 of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

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22 Students participating in a live fire training evolution who have received the required minimum training from other than the AHJ shall not be permitted to participate in any live fire training evolution without first presenting prior written evidence of having successfully completed the prescribed minimum training to the levels specified in Replace the current section 4.3 with the following: 4.3 Participant Live Fire Training Prerequisites Prior to being permitted to participate in live fire training evolutions, all participants shall have received training to meet the (1) Live Fire Introductory training All participants shall be given classroom training that will enable them to: Recognize the need for an in-depth theoretical and practical knowledge of fire behavior for safe fire suppression operations. Understand the underlying concept of compartment fire behavior training as a basis for safe fire suppression operations. (2) Health and Safety All participants shall be given classroom training that will enable them to: Recognize the physiological stress that results from working in protective clothing and SCBA in a hyperthermic environment Understand the rationale and need for medical monitoring during physiologically stressful training operations. (3) Fundamentals of Fire Behavior All participants shall be given classroom training that will enable them to: Describe the basic chemical and physical processes involved in combustion. Explain fire phenomena using the fire triangle and tetrahedron as simple models of combustion. Explain basic concepts of thermal dynamics, including: thermal energy, temperature, and methods of heat transfer. Describe the combustion process for gaseous, liquid, and solid fuels. Explain the concepts of heat of combustion and heat release rate. Describe the influence of the fuel/oxygen mixture on combustion. Explain the concept of chemical chain reaction as it relates to flaming combustion. Recognize characteristics of common types of combustion products. Be able to use terminology related to combustion and fire dynamics. (4) Fire Development in a Compartment All participants shall be given classroom training that will enable them to: Describe the general development of a fire and extension beyond a single room or compartment, including: Heat transfer methods, pressurization within the space, stages of fire development and transition from fuel controlled to ventilation controlled combustion Identify building factors influencing fire development. Explain the concepts of fire load and ventilation profile Explain the significance of the transition from a contents fire to a structural fire Be able to use terminology related to fire development, including: plume, ceiling jet, hot gas layer, neutral plane, air track and gravity current. Explain the impact of the following factors on fire development in a compartment: Type of fuel, availability and locations of additional fuel, volume of the compartment, ceiling height, size, number, and arrangement of ventilation openings, and thermal properties of the enclosure (insulation) of 29 (5) Nozzle Techniques & Door Entry 22 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

23 All participants shall be given classroom and hands-on training that will enable them to: Identify and describe factors influencing the effectiveness of extinguishment by cooling Describe the application of indirect attack, direct attack, and 3D gas cooling Demonstrate the nozzle techniques for pulsing, penciling, and painting Recognize key door entry size-up and dynamic risk assessment factors Understand how integrated door control and gas cooling reduce the risk of extreme fire behavior during door entry Demonstrate effective door entry procedures (6) Extreme Fire Behavior (Classroom) All participants shall be given classroom and hands-on training that will enable them to: Recognize the hazards presented by extreme fire behavior Explain how the following three extreme fire behavior phenomena occur: Flashover, backdraft, smoke explosion. Explain the influence of changes in ventilation profile in each of the following burning regimes: Fuel controlled and ventilation controlled. Differentiate between the following: Ventilation, unplanned ventilation, tactical ventilation, and tactical anti-ventilation. Recognize the significance of fire behavior indicators in each of the following categories: Building, smoke, air track, heat, and flame (7) Live Fire Behavior Observation Prior to participating in a live fire evolution, all participants shall be exposed to observing fire behavior in a controlled environment, and be able to: Describe anticipated fire behavior based on conditions experienced inside a compartment under actual fire conditions. Use visual observation under actual fire conditions to identify: Evidence of pyrolysis, neutral plane, air track, and rollover. Demonstrate the following nozzle techniques under actual fire conditions: Pulsing (short pulse), penciling, and painting 4.3.2* Students participating All participants in a live fire training evolution who have received the required minimum training from other than the AHJ shall not be permitted to participate in any live fire training evolution without first presenting prior written evidence of having successfully completed the prescribed minimum training to the levels specified in Prerequisite training requirements for students participating in live fire training activities in the standard have not changed since the original requirements were included in the first edition of NFPA 1403 in In the last 5 years, fire tests conducted by both NIST and UL indicate that fire behavior in the current built environment is much different than what has been used as a basis for live fire training for the last 25 years, or more. The proposed changes will ensure that all participants of live fire training activities, both for students and particularly instructors, is based on current fire behavior conditions that are anticipated to be encountered in structural fire fighting. of 29 Submitter Full Name: William Peterson Organization: [ Not Specified ] Affilliation: International Fire Marshals Association 23 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

24 Submittal Date: Wed Dec 10 15:02:07 EST 2014 of /6/2015 8:34 AM

25 0 of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM Public Input No. 23-NFPA [ New Section after ] TITLE OF NEW CONTENT Type your content here... New 4.4 Participant Health and Safety (renumber existing sections 4.4 to 4.16) Participants engaged in live fire training shall be limited to a maximum of four (4) sessions, or evolutions, in a hyperthermic environment per day * Participation in live fire training sessions (evolutions) in a hyperthermic environment shall be given a period of rest, after each session or evolution, to allow for proper rehydration and reduction of core body temperatures to normal levels. A Consideration should be given to the accumulated physiological effects on each participant when working in a hyperthermic environment. If the work in hyperthermic environment is highly physically demanding, at very high temperatures, or if other circumstances apply, rest periods should be longer Participants in live fire training sessions (evolutions) shall not be required to work in a hypothermic environment on consecutive days Live fire training sessions (evolutions) shall not exceed a maximum of one (1) hour in duration, under any circumstances Live fire training sessions (evolutions) shall not exceed thirty (30) minutes in duration when the outside air temperature exceeds 30 C (86 F), and the outdoor relative humidity exceeds 80% * The times in and shall be reduced if the nature of the live fire evolution requires the participant to engage in highly physically demanding activity.* *A When assessing the length of a live fire training session (evolution), the following should be taken into account: (1) nature of the work to be performed by the participant, (2) physical stress of the work on the participant, (3) temperature of the work end evolution environment (4) exposure time in a hyperthermic environment, and (5) other circumstances (e.g. weather, humidity). More and more documentation is becoming available about the physiological impact on participants of live fire training activities. In 2006, a study was conducted by the Swedish Fire Service on the physiological effects of working in a hyperthermic environment. In connection with the typical training of fire fighters the study involved practical sessions in more or less realistic environments, with smoke-filled exercise facilities where ambient temperature in some parts were as high as C ( F) or even higher. The study was managed and supervised by a two interacting instructors. These study participants were repeatedly exposed, to some extent, to hard physical work in a hyperthermic environment, replicating the physiological demands typically encountered in live fire training. Results from the study indicates that the physiological impact of participating in live fire training activities may be harmful, particularly in the long term. The six study participants included five males (22-38 years old) and a female, (39 years old). The study was performed over a four day period where participants engaged in live fire training exercises four (4) times each day. Before and after each day, the study participants received a medical examination with blood pressure and ECG recording, respiratory function test, test on reaction speed, memory function and fine motor skills. Blood and urine were also analyzed, as a part of the medical screening process. Skin, rectal, and ambient temperatures were recorded continuously as well as heart rate. Fluid loss and fluid intake were recorded daily. It was found that all individuals who participated in the study exercises had raised their body temperature to between C ( F) during all tests conducted in a hyperthermic environment. The Daily fluid 25

26 loss of the participants ranged from ml. Five of the six individuals reported fatigue and three of six individuals experienced headaches. All test results, with one exception, show values within what would normally be seen as normal limits. However the study also reveals patterns in the test results that indicate transient changes which could possibly indicate that the studied activity involves a health risk, at least in the currently practiced mode of typical live fire training practices. Study results clearly implied that high physical exertion in a hyperthermic environment can result in ECG changes, effects on blood pressure and heart rate, and changes in several blood parameters (liver enzymes and pancreatic amylase, hemoglobin, white blood cells and platelets, creatinine, blood sugar, metabolism, blood lipids, myoglobin). Also seen in the test results were abnormal influences such as the presence of protein, and in one case both red as white blood cells in collected urine samples. While the study physiological testing and analysis did not indicate any immediate serious health effects, the completed study made observations that would tend to indicate that in a longer perspective, frequent exposure to hyperthermic temperatures, can result in health risks to participants engaged in live fire training. The results of the Sweden study means that it is prudent to limit participant exposure to conditions where they would experience a combination of high physical load and hyperthermic temperatures. Submitter Full Name: William Peterson Organization: [ Not Specified ] Affilliation: International Fire marshals Association Submittal Date: Wed Dec 10 15:06:14 EST of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

27 Public Input No. 24-NFPA [ Section No ] All students, instructors, safety personnel, and other personnel shall wear all protective clothing and equipment, SCBA and other equipment specified in this chapter according to manufacturer s instructions whenever they are involved in any evolution or fire suppression operation during the live all live fire training evolution(s). Fire Department personnel participating in flammable and combustible liquid props are not being required wear SCBA's and firefighters are being subjected to facial and lung burns when not wearing an SCBA in these training scenerios Submitter Full Name: Gary Simpson Organization: E. D. Bullard Company Submittal Date: Tue Dec 16 10:07:54 EST of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

28 Public Input No. 25-NFPA [ Section No ] * All students, instructors, safety personnel, and other personnel participating in any evolution or operation of fire suppression during the live fire training evolution shall breathe from an SCBA air supply whenever they operate under one or more of the following conditions: (1) In an atmosphere that is oxygen deficient or contaminated by products of combustion, or both (2) In an atmosphere that is suspected of being oxygen deficient or contaminated by products of combustion, or both (3) In any atmosphere that can become oxygen deficient, contaminated, or both (4) Below ground level (5) In any atmosphere where combustible or flammable liquids are being used burned as part of any gas or liquid prop to train firefighters Fire department personnel participating in flammable and combustible liquid props are not being required to wear SCBA's and firefighters are being subjected to facial and lung burns when not wearing an SCBA in these training environments Submitter Full Name: Gary Simpson Organization: E. D. Bullard Company Submittal Date: Tue Dec 16 10:21:01 EST of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

29 Public Input No. 26-NFPA [ Section No [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] Basic life support (BLS) emergency Emergency medical services shall be available on site to handle injuries with basic life support (BLS) being the minimum standard. Advanced life support (ALS) should be provided when readily available. The United States Fire Administration statistics continue to show firefighters dying in the line of duty. Stress and other medical-related issues, which usually result in heart attacks or other sudden cardiac events, continue to account for the largest number of fatalities. In 2013, one-third of the deaths resulted from overexertion, stress and related medical issues. Of the 32 deaths in this category, 29 were classified as sudden cardiac deaths (usually heart attacks). In the same year, five deaths occurred during training activities as a result of sudden cardiac death. The discussion of BLS vs. ALS on scene of live fire training has been debated for years, however the fact remains that this type of training is stressful and physically demanding. Trained ALS personnel can provide immediate airway management, cardiac monitoring, intravenous access (IV) and drug therapy when seconds count. The 1403 document should recommend ALS personnel be on scene during live fire training. Submitter Full Name: Roland Fredrickson Organization: City of Corona Fire Department Submittal Date: Thu Dec 25 23:28:00 EST of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

30 Public Input No. 34-NFPA [ Section No ] For acquired structures, BLS emergency medical services with transport capabilities shall should be available on site to handle injuries when available If BLS transport capability is not available, a parking area for an ambulance or an emergency medical services vehicle shall be designated and located where it will facilitate a prompt response in the event of personal injury to participants in the evolution. The standard requiring BLS transport is creating situations where live fire training is either being cancelled or not conducted due to the inability of a transport unit being available. In small rural communities EMS systems often do not have units they dedicate to stand by. This new verbiage would first encourage having a unit on scene if at all possible, and if one is not available, planning for its arrival, ease of access, and departure. Submitter Full Name: Derrick Clouston Organization: Submittal Date: Sat Jan 03 13:30:18 EST of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

31 Public Input No. 28-NFPA [ Section No ] Pressure-treated wood, rubber, plastic, polyurethane foam, tar paper, upholstered furniture, and chemically treated or pesticide-treated straw or hay shall not be used. there is great confusion right now about whether or not tar paper is an acceptable fuel. Submitter Full Name: JAMES MENDOZA Organization: SAN JOSE FIRE DEPARTMENT Submittal Date: Tue Dec 30 14:00:05 EST of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

32 Public Input No. 31-NFPA [ Section No ] Pressure-treated wood, rubber, plastic, tar paper, polyurethane foam, upholstered furniture, and chemically treated or pesticide-treated straw or hay shall not be used. There is great confusion about whether or not tar paper is acceptable as a fuel. This would give clarity. Submitter Full Name: JAMES MENDOZA Organization: SAN JOSE FIRE DEPARTMENT Submittal Date: Tue Dec 30 14:24:47 EST of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

33 Public Input No. 29-NFPA [ Section No ] The location of the manikin shall not be required to be disclosed, provided that the possibility of victims is discussed in the preburn briefing Victims (rescue mannequins) shalll not be dressed in firefighting personal protective clothing Victims (rescue mannequins) shall be easily identified as mannequins to prevent confusion with potential actual downed firefighters. Rescue mannequins may to be dressed in firefighting personal protective clothing for purposes of teaching rescue technqiues related to specific personal protective clothing worn by an agency. Sorry, I didn't know how to edit this part of the Tentative Interim Amedment Prohibiting the use of PPE on victims prevents agencies from practicing rescue techniques that are specific to the PPE. Some turnouts have rescue loops, and SCBA have rescue breathing devices. Practicing how to use these under more realistic conditions is very important. Submitter Full Name: JAMES MENDOZA Organization: SAN JOSE FIRE DEPARTMENT Submittal Date: Tue Dec 30 14:07:40 EST of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

34 Public Input No. 5-NFPA [ New Section after ] NOTE: This public input originates from Tentative Interim Amendment (TIA 1107) issued by the Standards Council on October 22, 2013 and per the NFPA Regs. needs to be reconsidered by the Technical Committee for the next edition of the Document Victim(s) No person(s) shall play the role of a victim inside any live fire training structure or acquired structure Victims (rescue mannequins) shall not be dressed in fire fighting personal protective clothing. Additional Proposed Changes File Name Description Approved Proposed_TIA_1107_NFPA1403.docx Balloted TIA The existing text in the proposed was in the 2007 edition of NFPA 1403 in and was deleted by mistake in the 2012 edition. Emergency Nature: The text was deleted by mistake from the current edition and needs to be added back in for safety reasons. Submitter Full Name: TC on FIY-AAA Organization: TC on Fire Service Training Submittal Date: Thu Oct 31 13:45:34 EDT 2013 Copyright Assignment I, TC on FIY-AAA, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Input (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Input in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Input and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment. By checking this box I affirm that I am TC on FIY-AAA, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature of /7/ :47 AM

35 NFPA Standard on Live Training Solutions TIA Log No Reference: 4.16 Comment Closing Date: July 19, 2013 Submitter: Kenneth Richards, Old Mystic Fire Department 1. Add a new Section 4.16 to read as follows: 4.16 Victim(s) No person(s) shall play the role of a victim inside any live fire training structure or acquired structure Victims (rescue mannequins) shall not be dressed in fire fighting personal protective clothing. Submitter s Substantiation: The existing text in the proposed was in the 2007 edition of NFPA 1403 in and was deleted by mistake in the 2012 edition. Emergency Nature: The text was deleted by mistake from the current edition and needs to be added back in for safety reasons. 35

36 Public Input No. 7-NFPA [ New Section after ] The owner of the structure shall acknowldge to the AHJ that any remaining debris shall be removed within a time specified by the AHJ after the training evolution is complete. Live fire training evolutions leave debris on the lot that is hazardous and potentially a public nuisance. An understanding that this debris needs to be removed after the training evolution and is the responsibility of the owner needs to be acquired in writing by the AHJ. Otherwise, debate will ensue over responsibility for the condition of the property and the removal of the debris. Submitter Full Name: Anthony Apfelbeck Organization: Altamonte Springs Building/Fire Safety Division Submittal Date: Sun Dec 22 00:33:17 EST of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

37 Public Input No. 6-NFPA [ New Section after ] A hazardous environmental assessment shall be conducted of the building by an approved testing agency prior to the use of the structure for live fire training evoluations or any demolition of building components. In order to know if hazardous environmental conditions exist, an assessment needs to be conducted. Requiring the removal of such hazards, as the standard currently requires, is only effective if an identification step is required to identify such hazards. If no assessment identification step is required, then unidentified hazards will remain. Submitter Full Name: Anthony Apfelbeck Organization: Altamonte Springs Building/Fire Safety Division Submittal Date: Sun Dec 22 00:24:19 EST of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

38 Public Input No. 8-NFPA [ Section No ] 9.1.2* For acquired structures, records pertaining to insurance cancellation, environmental assessment/abatement, evidence of ownership and authorization from the owner of the structure to conduct the training shall be completed and maintained by the AHJ. The current language is very vague in stating records relating to the structure. Greater guidance needs to be provided as to what records should be completed and maintained. Submitter Full Name: Anthony Apfelbeck Organization: Altamonte Springs Building/Fire Safety Division Submittal Date: Sun Dec 22 00:41:03 EST of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

39 Public Input No. 33-NFPA [ New Section after ] Chapter 10 Specialized Live Fire Training Environments 10.0 Requirements Fire Dynamics Training Environment 10.1 Training for the purpose of fire dynamics shall meet the requirements of Chapters 4, 5, 6, and 7 and provisions of this section When specifically training for fire dynamics, the fuel type provisions contained in and shall not apply Chemically treated hay, straw, and wood shall not be used Only fuels such as carpeting, furniture, and fixtures shall be allowed in order to develop training fires to train in modern fire environments Wood products such as oriented strand board shall not be used as fuel material Instructor Requirements Instructor to student ratios for training in this type of environment shall be 3:1 or one instructor per functional group Only those instructors approved by the AHJ shall be utilized to train in this type of environment Specific Evolutions for Environment Only evolutions that are designed to observe fire growth and development in modern environments shall be conducted with the provisions of this chapter Evolutions that are allowable shall include Impacts and proper/improper ventilation, flow path recognition/management, and proper fire stream application Suitable Training Sites Acquired structures shall not be used for this type of training Fire training centers shall be the only allowable environment to conduct training contained in Requirements for Live Fire Training for Rapid Intervention Operations and Thermal Imagers Training for the purpose of Rapid Intervention Operations and Thermal Imaging shall meet the requirements of Chapters 4, 5, 6, and Training for the purpose of Rapid Intervention Operations and Thermal Imaging shall not be subject to and There shall only be one Instructor playing the role of a victim per scenario There shall be another instructor with the instructor playing the role of victim at all times and within five feet of an exit A thermal imager shall be used to observe the crew and victim at all times during the evolution(s) Instructor Requirements Instructor to student ratios for training in these type of environments shall be 3:1, or one instructor per functional group Only those instructors approved by the AHJ shall be utilized to train in this type of environments Instructors shall be trained to the requirements of NFPA 1407 Standard for Training Fire Service Rapid Intervention Crews specifically Chapter 5, 6.2.1, and Instructors shall be trained to the requirements of NFPA 1408 Standard Thermal Imaging Training specifically Chapter of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

40 10.7 Student Requirements Students participating in thermal imaging training shall meet the requirements of NFPA 1408 Chapter Students participating in rapid intevention training shall meet the requirements of NFPA Specific Evolutions for Environment Only evolutions that are designed to teach skills in accordance with NFPA 1407 Chapter 7 shall be conducted within the provisions of this chapter Only evolutions that are designed to measure performance in accordance with NFPA 1407 Chapter 8 shall be conducted within the provisions of this chapter Only evolutions that are designed to teach the use of Thermal Imagers in accordance with NFPA 1408 Chapter 8 shall be conducted Suitable Training Sites Acquired structures shall not be used for training for 1407 or 1408 evolutions Fire training centers shall be the only allowable environment to conduct training contained in Minimum of two compatible RIC Packs shall be available and designated one for training and one for the instructor playing the role of victim. As a result of training accidents over the last three decades, the current and previous editions of NFPA 1403 have progressively become more restrictive since the inception of the standard as to the types of evolutions that can be conducted. The restrictions have made it more difficult to adequately train for the various modern environments and operations firefighters are encountering. The intent of the proposed new chapter on Specific Training Environments is to provide options for which specific types of evolutions could be conducted in order to meet requirements of NFPA 1001, 1407, and Submitter Full Name: Derrick Clouston Organization: Submittal Date: Sat Jan 03 12:48:04 EST of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

41 Public Input No. 30-NFPA [ Section No. A ] A Acceptable fuels include pine excelsior, wooden pallets (not contaminated by chemicals or paint), OSB (oriented strand board), particle board, straw, hay, shredded paper, cardboard and other wood-based products. Better clarity about what fuels are and are not acceptable. Submitter Full Name: JAMES MENDOZA Organization: SAN JOSE FIRE DEPARTMENT Submittal Date: Tue Dec 30 14:21:52 EST of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

42 Public Input No. 10-NFPA [ Section No. B.1 ] Under note 1., add a new check box as follows: Acknowledgement of owner's responsibility to abate conditions left after the live fire evolution is complete. B.1 Sample Checklist. Figure B.1 provides a checklist for a live fire evolution. Figure B.1 Sample Checklist for Procedures for a Live Fire Evolution. Figure B.1 Continued 42 6 of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

43 Debris and other hazardous conditions are frequently left on the lot after live fire training evolutions. Acknowledgement from the owner that they are responsible for abating such conditions should be received prior to the evolutions to ensure no misunderstanding exists regarding the parties responsibilities for mitigating any post evolution conditions on the property. Submitter Full Name: Anthony Apfelbeck Organization: Altamonte Springs Building/Fire Safety Division Submittal Date: Sun Dec 22 00:49:17 EST of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

44 Public Input No. 9-NFPA [ Section No. B.1 ] Insert a new note 2 in the Permits section as follows and renumber the reamining: 2. Local demolition permit received. B.1 Sample Checklist. Figure B.1 provides a checklist for a live fire evolution. Figure B.1 Sample Checklist for Procedures for a Live Fire Evolution. Figure B.1 Continued 44 8 of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

45 A permit from the building department to demolish the structure is a common requirement in most jurisdictions. This should be included in the checklist. Submitter Full Name: Anthony Apfelbeck Organization: Altamonte Springs Building/Fire Safety Division Submittal Date: Sun Dec 22 00:46:32 EST of 29 1/6/2015 8:34 AM

46 ATTACHMENT D 46

47 TO: FROM: Technical Committee on Fire Service Training Linda Fuller DATE: September 12, 2014 SUBJECT: Request to Transfer Responsibility for NFPA 1402, Guide to Building Fire Service Training Centers I am transmitting to you herewith the following action of the Standards Council (August 11- August 14, 2014): The Council reviewed the request of the Fire Service Training Committee (TC) to transfer the responsibility for NFPA 1402, Guide to Building Fire Service Training Centers and to create a new committee. The Council reviewed the scope and title for the new committee, which will be entitled, Facilities for Fire Training and Associated Props. After review of all the material before it, the Council voted to publish a notice to solicit public comments for the need of the project, information on subject matter resources, those interested in participating, if established, and other organizations actively involved with the subject. At the request of the Fire Service Training Committee, the Council voted to allow NFPA 1402 to skip the Fall 2016 revision cycle and enter into the Fall 2021 revision cycle so that the newly formed TC has time to revise NFPA PROPOSED COMMITTEE TITLE: Facilities for Fire Training and Associated Props PROPOSED COMMITTEE SCOPE: This committee shall have primary responsibility for the design, construction, and maintenance of facilities for fire training and for fire training props. Responsibilities of the committee include standards relating to gas-fire props; training structures, props, and simulators used for live fire training rescue training and related tactical and skill training exercises. c: S. Sawyer, K. Willette, D. Baio, C. Cronin, P. Foley, C. Peterson, Y. Smith

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