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1 Hornsey Parish Church 60/60 Community Engagement Report Executive Summary and Detailed Findings Naomi Ferguson, Victoria Maynard Phase 1 Findings

2 Contents pages Executive summary 3 9 Strategy 4 5 Summary of findings : Phase Detailed Findings Phase : Comments about the existing site : Local needs : Hopes and concerns Images Note: this report is optimized for screen viewing and projection. If you need to print a hard copy, we recommend it be double sided and in colour.

3 Hornsey Parish Church 60/60 Community Engagement 1. Executive summary

4 Strategy Why engage stakeholders? And how? The purpose of the community engagement at Hornsey Parish Church ( HPC ) was to: 1. explain the need for the project Hornsey Parish Church 60/60 and generate excitement about the opportunities it offers. 2. raise awareness of current and future community resources at HPC. 3. listen to the church community and local people, p and demonstrate that their voices are welcome. 4. create the best design solution to meet the needs of the different stakeholders. 5. provide reassurance and allay fears. 6. meet the requirements of Haringey Council The methods used were: The questions posed sought to understand: PHASE 1 Sept PHASE 1 focus group discussions and structured interviews with regular current users impressions of the site as it is users their initial ideas of how it could be improved, An open meeting for local residents and businesses with ideas for new activities or facilities at Hornsey Parish Church facililtated feedback posters Stakeholders initial hopes for and concerns about the project feedback posters for congregation members to use after services PHASE 2 PHASE 2 Oct what the community thought about the architectural brief (eg. A WorldCaféstyle workshop for regular users, local residents the balance of proposed spaces community facilities, and local businesses as well as Hornsey Parish Church staff and worshipping space, residential etc and the requirements for the volunteers spaces they are likely to use) PHASE 3 Nov Jan PHASE 3 A public exhibition of preliminary proposals with facilitated what the community thought about the proposals feedback posters ALL PHASES Leaflets and posters about the project and events, coverage on the existing HPC website, a dedicated newsletter about the project, coverage in the parish newsletter and on social media, coverage in the local press. 4

5 Who was consulted?...and how? High Influenc ce Low Neighbours, businesses, HResidents Associations Low Archdeacon s Office St Mary s Primary Local schools Congregation (detached) Congregation (events) Monument Conservationists Neighbouring churches Interest PCC/ Standing Com. Congregation (regulars) Haringey Council / Local councillors GLA Hornsey Historical Society Children and youth groups Hall users High Focus groups / interviews Workshop Project newsletters Information and feedback posters following church services Focus groups Workshop Project newsletters s, phone calls, presentations and meetings Project newsletters open meeting Project newsletters Letters Meetings as appropriate All stakeholders: Exhibition of proposals p Coverage of project in/on: HPC web page Social media Parish newsletters Local press 5

6 Summary Findings phase 1 The phase 1 activities reached a wide cross section of current users congregation members and hirers of the community spaces as well as local residents, local businesses and the ward councillors, in an intense series of activities on different days and of different formatsthatwereheldbetweenthe20 th and 30 th of September Respondents were overwhelmingly positive about the opportunities presented by HPC 60/60, while they also recorded their affection for many features of the existing site and facilities. 01: Commentsabout tthe existing iti site What is it important to retain? The church building and chapels were shown to be highly valued among all groups, with participants commenting on their beauty, historical memory and the uplifting, peaceful atmosphere in them all. The chapels were seen to complement the main body of the church, offering spaces of different sizes more suitable for smaller group worship, and higher comfort levels. The church room is heavily used by the congregation and is well loved as a space for social ilactivities iti and hospitality. Its size, location, kitchen facilities, warmth, and the beauty of the Stationers window were noted as key features. The dance studio is described as beautiful. The Garden is also appreciated, although noted to be inaccessible and underused. Many features of the site were also highly valued by hirers: the location of HPC having on site parking the size and robustness of the hall the accessibility of the hall for wheelchair users having a range of spaces of different sizes the dance studio sprung floor, good size, good light affordable rents Why make changes? There was widespread consensus that HPC 60/60 represented an exciting opportunity for HPC to make some very necessary improvements. Specific drivers for change included: Building entrances trip hazards (steps / narrow staircases) and inaccessible to wheelchair users (except for hall) no buffer zone between hall entrance and the car park (dangerous for children) lack of control over people entering the site and buildings Need for useful lobby spaces in all the buildings waiting spaces, to manage flows in and out, for display buggy stores circulation across the site: Labyrinthine, difficult to navigate, lack of signage Spaces are disconnected, hence the hall does not feel part of the church inaccessible for wheelchairs and trolleys circulation between buildings is all external Insufficient storage in all areas Toilets and hall kitchen old, small, do not provide all the required facilities (e.g. baby changing facilities, disabled access) Poor control of temperature and natural lightthroughout throughout Auxiliary spaces in the church vestry too small, new spaces needed (private meeting rooms) The exterior of the site is uninviting, poorly lit and does not express either the beauty of the interior or give an indication of the activities iii happening on site. 6

7 Summary Findings phase 1 02: Local needs Local councillors and residents highlighted the potential for HPC to become a community hub bringing people together across this culturally and socially diverse area. The project was also seen as an opportunity to address social il problems caused by a lack of affordable housing and cuts in the public provision of services locally, especially for the elderly and young people. Current users commented that they did not feel well informed on local needs and that HPC should consult with external community organisations to find out more. Among users and local residents, the groups most commented on were teenagers / youth The homeless / precariously housed / firsttimebuyers time The elderly, especially those who are socially isolated Young children were also suggested although there were differing opinions as to whether this group was already well served locally. Other groups suggested included: local community organisations, mental health and dementia sufferers, ethnic minorities iti The idea of including residential units was well received, both in response to local need and as a logical way to finance the project. Suggestions about future revenue sources included: Concert venue / exhibition spaces for local musicians and artisans Improving the hall s usefulness as a hireable party venue Potential of the site as a good wedding venue Creating a community hub: leisure, music and social activities for all ages; a drop in café 03: Hopes and concerns Participants were very positive about the potential of the project, with hopes far outweighing concerns for both phases of the project. Concerns about tthe construction ti phase included: d Noise Disruption of activities on site and for residents Site traffic dangers Parking problems Hopes for construction: Quick and well managed Limited disruption Concerns about the outcome of the project: Loss of community spaces Rents becoming unaffordable Greater demand for parking Hopes for the project: That it will result in a more attractive and inviting site and buildings That the facilities will be better suited to the activities on site That HPC can become a community hub, reaching more people in the community Improvements in accessibility, lighting and signage throughout The chance for an attractive, modern, eco building in keeping with the architecture of the church A chance to provide affordable housing 7

8 Hornsey Parish Church 60/60 Community Engagement Phase 1 Detailed findings This section details findings from the following events and activities: Focus Groups with congregation members: Meeting point lunch (congregation members and volunteers) The Parochial Church Council (PCC) Interviews with existing hirers of the community spaces: Hornsey Pensioners Action Group (regular users) North London Conservatoire Kindergarten formerly Colourstrings (long term tenants) Hornsey Explorer Scouts Unit coordinator (regular users) Ballet School director (long term tenant) Eddie the Music Man (runs a pre school group in the hall) Organizers of the Car Boot Sale and the Vintage Market (periodic hirer) Feedback posters: congregation members attending services at HPC 24 to Barn dance (public event) Local Residents and Businesses open meeting

9 01: Comments about the existing site Regular users were asked first to explain what they liked about theexistingsiteandwhy; then the problemsthesiteand buildings had currently and then to suggest solutions and improvements to be made. The existing site 9

10 Congregation members + volunteers A focus group formed of congregation members including flower arranging, bookshop, night shelter volunteers; complimented by feedback posters at the Meeting Point Lunch and at services. Lovely quality of light Sprung floor Beautiful Lockable storage Really important to have separate office space Middlesex Chapel Memories of men whogave theirlives for us Lovely place to sit Beautiful Altarpiece Garden Prayerful space not overlooked by neighbours Garden planting is a valuable resource for flower arrangements pleasant in summer Church Room Bookshop Great character for a second hand bookshop historical memory, quirky, irregular, hidden in basement Stationers window: Beautiful, historical, emotive A useful space for many small group Marian Centre Lovely space for Hall Good size, spacious Very user friendly Church activities Sunday school good feel whatever Prayerful, peaceful Lots of activities I love the church! you use it for Good disabled Beautiful, Warm, light, good Useful to have a range access straight from Lovely light size, handy kitchen of spaces of different car park Airy sizes Back of the stage Big space used for storage and I love the objects backstage space in and furniture from Lady Chapel Vestry performances earlier periods Cosy and warm Great 1950s Love the diversity of gives a feeling of Comfortable seating cupboards and details. users the hall brings continuity Love the Jesus to the site brings a lot of life and activity Beautiful woodwork, ceiling, arches, floor, choir stalls, stained glass windows, colours of the glass picked out in the ceiling decor I like the atmosphere, Good vibes Feels Prayerful + Peaceful Great Potential The existing site positives sculpture and the railings full of history Good to have a separate space for small group worship Small, intimate space for worship + prayer Wonderful atmosphere, deeply prayerful + peaceful Perfect for reflection Quiet, tranquil Car park On site parking Car park used by whole community internal and external 10

11 Hirers of community spaces Dance Studio Nice light filled space A good size for group lessons NLC A beautiful room Scouts like the wooden sprung floor lovely light airy space with gorgeous windows view from the windows up to St James would love to keep the history of this space Ballet *About the Hirers: North London Conservatoire Kindergarten [ NLC ] (formerly Colourstrings ) Ballet School [ Ballet ] Eddie the Music Man [ Eddie ] Church beautiful church, lovely light feel Events long term tenants, currently at HPC Mon Thu, music + movement activities for children ages 6mths 6yrs long term tenant [BS] Runs music sessions for preschool children in the hall Hornsey Explorer Scouts Currently using HPC 1 day/wk, Unit [ Scouts ] activities for yr olds Hornsey Pensioners Action Group [ HPAG ] Vintage market, Car boot sale organisers [ Events ] Meet in hall approx monthly, for talks by guest speakers Organise annual quarterly events in the hall Garden Nice to have a small remembrance garden Ballet Garden is nice HPAG Marian Centre GF Plenty of space Rent is manageable NLC Regular hirers and long term tenants* of the community spaces were consulted in structured interviews. we love it as it is, it s perfect! Good storage Robust, hard wearing Good size (a third smaller and we d struggle) Scouts Hall Big Well shaped Bright Hall toilets are good HPAG Plenty of space Rent is manageable NLC Like the separate stage for teas Events Impressed by sanded floor Hall Kitchen Fairly good for our needs Scouts Car park Having on site parking is important NLC, HPAG Parking is essential The Lighting is adequate Ballet Lots of natural light Good for kids I can define the space I need with furniture Stage is useful as storage out of kids reach (I don t require any other storage) Eddie Location Perfect / good location for our organisation NLC/ Ballet Very accessible by public transport + foot HPAG The existing site positives 11

12 The PCC The PCC were asked whether there was any detail missing from the comments about the existing site collected from other users, and for any other information they wished to add. Dance Studio Beautiful windows + ceiling Useful to have a space that is separated from the others on site Office Privacy easy to concentrate; appropriate when handling confidential matters Garden Quiet outdoor space Private contemplative space Nice buffer space for neighbours Important for those whose ashes are buried here Middlesex Chapel Beautiful window Significant for the military and on Remembrance Sunday Good for private prayer The existing site positives Church Beauty: the arches, windows, colours The different sizes of chapels near the entrance (Lady Chapel + Middx Chapel) provide prayer spaces of different scales this makes the church more accessible for new users I like it being used also for celebrations and performances good use of the space Church Room Congregation s social / hospitality space the secondary space that is most used by the congregation Kitchen A lot of money has been spent on it Plenty of storage, wellequipped Marian Centre Kitchen Good space and temperature for flower arranging Marian Centre GF Good size for Sunday School Useful lhaving a small space next to a large space. Useful to have dividable, smaller spaces for meetings + small group activities Useful as an occasional spill over meeting room Used as green room and backstage for performances Vestry Quality, attention to detail Built to last Car park Allowing others to use the car park earns HPC goodwillwith with local residents and businesses Whole site Useful to have a range of spaces of different scales (Church room, Marian Centre, Hall). Gives flexibility 12

13 Congregation members + volunteers A focus group formed of congregation members including flower arranging, bookshop, night shelter volunteers; complimented by feedback posters at the Meeting Point Lunch and at services. Hall No disabled access Maintaining sprung floor costs a fortune Church The light can be blinding if you are behind the altar at midday Choir stalls: drafty in winter Poor storage Very cold in winter Marian Centre Cupboards not fully accessible Impact noise: when dance classes above, can t use GF for quiet activities Stage no longer useful too small and inflexible for drama productions only gathers dirt and junk Gloomy Run down Expensive to maintain Parish office Dark, damp, gloomy, noisy, cold, dirty, dingy No internal connection to other buildings on site Unfit for purpose Awkward layout People don t know where it is When opening door, can t see who is on other side Toilets are appalling Secondary escape route unfit for wheelchairs Lady Chapel Noise from road Steps to access Hall Kitchen Antiquated poorly laid out poorly equipped The existing site problems 13

14 Congregation members + volunteers A focus group formed of congregation members including flower arranging, bookshop, night shelter volunteers; complimented by feedback posters at the Meeting Point Lunch and at services. Could be used more Parish office Needs to be more visible Make better use of area at side of church Church Built in infrastructure for productions? eg. a discreet lighting g structure? Better lighting in the choir stalls Redecorating would add beauty and draw people in Serve the afterservice coffee at the front (South end) Permanent wheelchair ramp at entrance Garden Outdoor storage for gardening + flower equipment More accessible from church A garden suitable for use by pre schooler groups Make flatter Church Room 2 storeys meeting rooms + office connect the two Toilets Not accessed through kitchen! More WCs, and disabled WC New toilets! The existing site suggested improvements Marian Centre Create throughconnection to hall Sound protection between floors or move dance studio to a different location Storage space and room for flower arranging with running water + basin if possible It d be nice if the two Sunday School groups happened in adjacent rooms of equal size with plenty of storage. New spaces Encourage people in with cafe, bookshop o or drop in area? Ecumenical prayerful space for the contemplative prayer group Large, allocated storage space for each of the groups that need it Make hall flexible, divisible Remove stage serves no purpose Have flexible, movable staging blocks? Hall Kitchen Large, modern, with large fridge/freezer, cooker, prep space, storage and dishwasher Whole site Achieve more intensive all week use More storage everywhere Wi Fi throughout Better + accessible connections between hall + other spaces Hall Showers for the night shelter Improve heating Modernize Buggy store Make a modern, welcoming space with lots of glass so people passing can see in Need door closers Exterior Improve access from and presence on Park Road Accessible store for refuse and recycling 14

15 Hirers of community spaces Very difficult to keep warm Always dusty Only 1 toilet Toilet needs renovating Waiting lobby too small Difficult access for parents with babies and small children Not enough buggy space Noisy heater with ih inefficient thermostat NLC *About the Hirers: North London Conservatoire Kindergarten [ NLC ] (formerly Colourstrings ) Ballet School [ BS ] Eddie the Music Man [ Eddie ] Dance studio Lift for parents with pushchairs coffee + water point skylights in roof to relieve trapped heat and increase light blinds doorbell Ballet heat gets trapped in room gets very hot by afternoon if sunny light reflecting off roofs opposite can be blinding entrance dark and creepy at night Ballet long term tenants, currently at HPC Mon Thu, music + movement activities for children ages 6mths 6yrs long term tenant [BS] Runs music sessions for preschool children in the hall Hornsey Explorer Scouts Currently using HPC 1 day/wk, Unit [ Scouts ] activities for yr olds Hornsey Pensioners Action Group [ HPAG ] Vintage market, Car boot sale organisers [ Events ] Meet in hall approx monthly, for talks by guest speakers Organise annual quarterly events in the hall Church cold anddraftydrafty NLC Garden not accessible HPAG Use it more Could be a better concert venue better piano, Warmer NLC Regular hirers and long term tenants* of the community spaces were consulted in structured interviews. Scouts Marian Centre Too small for us Car park NLC carpeted or with rug for crawling babies baby changing facilities buggy park easy clean floor opening windows Eddie Cars danger for young children at entrance to hall NLC Mark the bays Scouts, Ballet Provide cycle parking HPAG Exterior Signage Sg ageto the Dance Studio Scouts Heaters don t heat the space well enough difficult to keep warm in winter Draughts (from windows, under stage) Dark and uninviting Insecure anybody can walk in Dusty, never really clean Cavernous, ceiling too high too big for us Lobby cold in winter No waiting space NLC buggy store The existing site problems, suggested improvements NLC Stage not required by us Redecorate any height is fine about 3.5m Scouts keep noticeboards inside id and out, visible from street / bus stop Eddie easier internal doors (not swing) Ballet Hall Hall Kitchen No blinds for upper windows problem seeing projections Echoey acoustics Main door is difficult to open Doors are noisy on entry Tables very difficult to get out and put away for elderly users HPAG Improve acoustics Redecorate Wi Fi please Blinds for windows Photo voltaic panels on roof (eg. from local community energy co.) HPAG blinds / curtains more and easier control over heating better lighting at entrance defibrillator keep the stage area and use it more as a theatre space for the community Events More capacity Scouts better organised and more accessible cupboards (no need for own lockable fridge) Events 15

16 The PCC The PCC were asked whether there was any detail missing from the comments about the existing site collected from other users, and for any other information they wished to add. Office Very Noisy (by boiler) Very low ceiling (history of frustrated planning application for strip of land beside church) Hot in summer, cold in winter Noise Not enough secondary spaces need meeting rooms / interview room where Fr. Bruce can talk privately with anyone Entrance lobby (at South end) dead space. Used for storing odds + ends Double glazing Blinds for sun control Lighting Ugly and uninviting Facade does not reflect the beautiful interior Awkward space in front of church entrance Remove railings along Cranley Gdns Signage Remembrance Garden People don t know it s here Church New sound system Loose pews at South end of nave (needed for big events but empty in most services) flexibility of this area Entrance: glass doors, display area for artefacts, display area for info / Exterior leaflets, importanceofof initial impression make it welcoming (see Moravian church as example) Create attractive public garden / park Create a welcoming presence Exterior should communicate: come in, we are a church Marian Centre GF Dangerous step into hall Smaller room doesn t work as a teaching room as it was intended because circulation passes through Feels like being in a cupboard None of the spaces work right Better connection to the church Alternative to a standard elevator for 2nd storey access? stairlift? Platform lift? Vestry Needs to be twice as big The Lady Chapel Opportunity to compensate for the shortcomings of the main body of the church Hall church connection Proximity? Internal corridor / covered passageway? Visual connection? Make the hall feel more like it is part of the site / connected to the church Hall kitchen Difficult to clean Difficult to access things / locked cupboards New facilities Shower + washing machine for winter night shelter The existing site problems, suggested improvements Whole site Labyrinthine circulation Disconnected spaces More storage Accessible internal connections Make it beautiful New interventions should be built to stand the test of time Bookshop Needs better location Hall Fold away stage and bar Coat/bag storage bench in allocated waiting area Knock the hall down! Need a flexible space Car park Inefficient Cars get blocked in No pedestrian path Used by people not connected to HPC Relocate underground? Park Road frontage grim Need direct access from Park Road front door to community building should be here Create a welcoming presence 16

17 02: Local Needs The congregation, hirers of the community spaces, local residents and local councillors were asked their ideas on which groups of people are in particular need in the parish and what activities or facilities could be provided at HPC for them. Group in Need Activity / facilities to provide for them Contributor Groups in need, activities or facilities HPC could provide for them 17

18 Hirers and Congregation NLC Local musicians Concert venue Music festival for local musicians Pre school children Homeless / precariously housed Elderly All parish residents Congregation Properly equipped nursery Showers, clothes washing facilities, cooking facilities, wifi + computer access Somewhere warm to go in winter + have a cooked meal Music group Need to consult non users! Things to do in the evening, eg. Poetry group, book club, drama classes Publicise activities happening inside hall on the street front Elderly on low incomes Mitigate some of the loss of services through cuts in public sector: local daycentres have closed Affordable non medicalfoot care Affordable lunch clubs Community organisations Q i t f ll i ti HPAG Quiet venue for small evening meetings Consult local community organisations to find out about local needs: Duke save. Soup Kitchen Salvation Army Methodist Centre Pages Lane (they have lots of community facilities) Muswell Hill Council of Churches (run a soup kitchen) Bridge Renewal Trust (manage grants for community and voluntary sector locally) Muswell Hill and Portis Green Association Met Police Safer Neighbourhood Team Hornsey + Muswell Hill wards (metpolice.co.uk) Groups in need, activities or facilities HPC could provide for them 18

19 Local Councillors Ethnic minorities iti We need to integrate and support all residents in our diverse community English lessons Families Goodfamily housing Isolated elderly In need of regular and supported contact with outside world Provide services to mitigate recent cut backs in public provision Exercise classes eg. chairordance hi based followed by cake + coffee Social gathering place Teens / Youth Youth clubs have been lost Quiet places to study Safe places to hang out Dementia sufferers Hub for people with early stage dementia to meet and access services Local community groups eg. WAVE (local learning disabilities organisation) is looking for space to host a café and put on art events Spaces for meetings and events Local businesses More good office / work spaces Local Councillors Groups in need, activities or facilities to provide for them 19

20 Local residents + businesses See example of the Whittington Community Centre spacesto rent, café, activities forelderlyetc etc Creating a community centre is a great idea To find out more about sports demand locally, contact the cricket club Publicise spaces and activities better on the street front and to local organisations Ethnic minorities East West ethnic and economic divide across the Borough of Haringey No more gyms, no more crèches! there are enough already! Young families Opportunity for HPC to promote social cohesion across the Borough already attracts many afro Caribbean residents Nursery, playgroup Dance classes Weight watchers Creative community / artisans Mental health sufferers (consult HCCG) Concert and exhibition venues (Don t duplicate Music practice spaces Haringey Music. Are they still Small recital spaces looking for premises? ) Mental health crisis café (Isolated) elderly Homeless Local community groups Teens / Youth Don t have enough to do Place to socialize / social activities Locally raised first time buyers Affordable housing Exercise classes? Free classes for OAPs already provided at Park Road Showers for the night shelter (Showers could also be used by cycling commuters) Hireable spaces for meetings and events Film club as cinema is too expensive for many Dance and drama classes Safe place to go with interesting + fun activities (youth club, ping pong) Local Residents + Businesses Everyone / all ages Already lots of cafés nearby, but all commercial. A café at the church would need a unique slant. Groups in need, activities or facilities to provide for them Good to have the hireable space of the churchhallhall useful venue for parties, lots of demand if lighting, toilets, kitchen were improved. And could it be licensed? Public toilets Creative writing / poetry group Art classes Singing groups Café + garden of reflection? Drop in for a chat Keep the bookshop! Keep doing the book sales, car boot + vintage sales! 20

21 03: Hopes and concerns The PCC, hirers of the community spaces, local councillors and local residents were asked about their hopes for and concerns about: the construction phase ofthe project when the new buildings are in operation during construction......when finished HOPES CONCERNS HOPES CONCERNS Hopes and concerns 21

22 Local Residents and Businesses ; duringconstruction construction......when finished That the construction is well managed and speedy Lorries turning at already busy and dangerous road junction. Danger for pedestrians That facilities at HPC can be made more useful and serve a wider Providecontinuity forthe operation of the church pedestrians community and other site users Noise and disruption HOPES other comments Opportunity for social housing Site has potential as a good wedding venue revenue potential CONCERNS Church is a good example of 50s architecture and is beginning to be appreciated Main hall has great acoustics and holds a great barn dance! It could lift the whole area An exciting opportunity for the church to contribute more to the local community Opportunity to raise the profile of HPC in the area Something more attractive and interesting than the current hall building! A chance to build a striking modern building That the scheme enhances the Create flexible, versatile architecture of the spaces that could suit a Opportunity to create links church and provides a range of potential users with local sports facilities better environment eg. North Middx. Cricket An eco friendly building, Considering an Club, Wood Vale Tennis please! not just underground car park? insulation but eg.a green Highwatertable whynotmove thechurch table potential expense and complication Will the finances stack up? Proposals need to be fully costed back to its original site? build houses where the current church is, build a new hall and new church incorporating the old church htower wall striking, to draw people in, rainwater to flush toilets etc Green space for site users and also along street front Homely, creative facade Easier to see into the buildings hence more inviting Improve accessibility More toilets! And unisex to equalize queuing Better kitchen, catering facilities External lighting Link new building to church with a covered way Some residential units would be a good thing there is a lot of space, always a need for more housing, relate to the existing council housing if housing is to be built it should be social housing That new buildings will have same square meterage of community spaces Loss of community spaces The size of any residential scheme and car parking requirements The church is lovely as it is More traffic? Parking is already a nightmare manage by avoiding parking heavy events Noisy activities, cooking smells removal of green strip along Park Road would change character of area. Natural green corridors etc smaller car park would reduce hiring i of hall hlland affect local businesses Could be too posh! lack of affordability will the housing meet minimum size, design standards? Will the finances stack up? Hopes and concerns for the project in construction and once finished 22

23 Hirers of community spaces* and Local councillors during construction... All Would HPC help us find alternative venues? Eddie Opening windows in new hall Events Flats would be good there is a general shortage of housing...when finished Would having residents on site limit community buildings usage? Eg. parking, noise limits etc. Ballet School To be kept informed of decisions and timings Where would my equipment be stored? Finding alternative venue Losing pupils Ballet School That new building is in keeping with church and is beautiful Rents will be higher in keeping with the improvement in facilities That the Dance studio may still be used How long would classes be disrupted? One more toilet in dance studio Would new facilities be as good as the existing? Scouts Retain storage during construction Scouts Hope for not too much disruption to our activities Having to move during construction Scouts Retention of size of hall Neater Catering facilities HPC will become too posh! Rents will be unaffordable Local Councillors Potential congestion at junction of Park Rd and Cranley Gdns That HPC can be a community hub that brings people together Local Councillors The church and hall are a fixture of our community The church is welcoming, accessible, calming Hopes and concerns for the project in construction and once finished 23

24 The PCC duringconstruction construction......when finished Quickly done High standard of finishes Minimum noise + disruption That the challenges of the construction period bring the HPC community closer together Blitz spirit That the church doesn t need to shut at all Loss of income during construction Disruption to servicesand hall tenants That we are not listened to Not finishing construction on time That it meets our needs with useful spaces that enable us to do all that we want to Modern looking That the new buildings reflect the old Beautiful inside and out Enhance the church s presence Issues yet to manifest Failing to create a reliable revenue stream That the end product does not serve our needs and objectives That our investment of money and energy doesn t result in a site that does what we want it to. HOPES other comments CONCERNS Durable Create a steady, reliable revenue stream by attracting long term tenants That it will be well utilised Revenue car park is a big draw. During activities such as Noah s Ark (playgroup) it is often full. As a charity we will have to charge market prices when renting out the new spaces a pleasant, inviting space a good relationship between residents of the new flats on site and church goers HOPES CONCERNS Hopes and concerns for the project in construction and once finished 24

25 Images: Meeting Point Lunch focus group + Hornsey Pensioners Action Group Feedback Session Hornsey Pensioners Action Group Feedback Session Introductory talk about the project Focus group: discussion Focus group: recording ideas Focus group: recording ideas feedback posters in lunch room Hornsey Pensioners Action Group Feedback Session 25

26 Images: Local Residents and Businesses Open Meeting Informing about the project Gathering feedback Graphic recording of comments Discussions 26

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