NFPA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON ELECTRONIC SAFETY EQUIPMENT. July 21-23, 2015 Sacramento, CA AGENDA

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1 Tuesday, July 21, 2015 NFPA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON ELECTRONIC SAFETY EQUIPMENT July 21-23, 2015 Sacramento, CA AGENDA 1. 9:00 a.m. Call to Order - Chairman Bob Athanas 2. Introduction of Members and Guests 3. NFPA Staff Liaison Report - Dave Trebisacci 4. Approval of Minutes - March 10-12, 2015 TC meeting, Fort Lauderdale, FL (attached) 5. Chairman s Remarks 6. NFPA 1801 Image Quality TG Report Steve Townsend, Chad Morey 7. Review of 1801 Public Input (attached) 8. NFPA 1802 Task Group Reports 9. Review of NFPA 1802 Draft (version 7/1/2015 attached) Chapter 1 Jose Velo Chapter 2 Jose Velo Chapter 3 Tim Wolfe, Beverly Gulledge Chapter 4 Gordon Sletmoe Chapter 5 Gerry Tarver Chapter 6 Mike McKenna, Mike Worrell Chapter 7 Mike McKenna, Mike Worrell, Steve Townsend Chapter 8 John Morris, Chris Spoons 10. New Business Upcoming meetings October 27-29, 2015 Colorado Springs (NFPA 1802 Draft Development) March 7-9, 2016 Fort Lauderdale (NFPA 1982 First Draft) 11. Adjourn at close of business on Thursday, July 23, 2015.

2 MINUTES OF THE MEETING TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON ELECTRONIC SAFETY EQUIPMENT MARCH 2015 FT. LAUDERDALE, FL AGENDA ITEMS 1-3; CALL TO ORDER, SELF-INTRODUCTION OF MEMBERS AND GUESTS, NFPA STAFF LIAISON REPORT Chairman Athanas called the Committee to order at 09:15 on 10 March Chairman Athanas welcomed Committee members and guests and asked them to introduce themselves. David Trebisacci provided the staff liaison report and asked attendees to sign in on the appropriate Member or Guest sign-in sheet. He reviewed the following: an overview of the TC composition and balance, the timetable for the revisions of NFPA 1982 and NFPA 1801, legal issues and restrictions with which the TC must comply, and the process to submit and review NFPA 1801 public input. He later reviewed the NFPA Doc Info page for NFPA Members and Alternates Present: Robert Athanas, Chairman Steven H. Weinstein, Acting Secretary David Trebisacci, Staff Liaison Kamil Agi Joel Berger Matt Bowyer Matthew Busa Louis Chavez Matthew Cnudde Bill Forsyth Craig Gestler Beverly Gulledge Wayne Haase William Haskell Simon Hogg John Jarboe Steven Makky Brian Martens Michael McKenna Chad Morey John Morris Timothy Rehak Kevin Roche James Rose Matthew Shannon Gordon Sletmoe Steven Townsend Jose L. Velo Greg Vrablik Mike Worrell FDNY/SAFE-IR Inc. Honeywell Safety Products (representing ISEA) NFPA K&A Wireless JVC Kenwood USA Corporation NIOSH Motorola, Inc. Underwriters Laboratories Inc. (via telephone) USDA Forest Service USDA Forest Service MSA Scott Safety Summit Safety, Inc. NIOSH (via telephone) Draeger Safety Grace Industries APCO International Inc. Harris Corporation Michael McKenna & Associates Intertek Testing Services ISG Infrasys NIOSH Phoenix Fire Department SEI Scott Safety Lebanon Fire District Carrollton Fire Rescue San Francisco Fire Department Honeywell Safety Products (representing ISEA) Phoenix Fire Department Page 1 of 6

3 Guests Present: Todd Bianchi Shane Bray Michelle Donnelly Ofodike Ezekoye John Facella Sandy Florence Scott Glazer Casey Grant Luke Hollmann Jim Holthaus Chuck Jaris Joel Johnson Robert Keys Barry Leitch Kevin Lentz Nader Moayeri Judge Morgan III Dennis Mull Rebecca Norwood John Oblak John Rehayem Marcus Romba Christopher Sampl Daniel Sanchez Ben Schaefer Corina Stanescu Darin Thompson Achim Volmer Alan Wilson Preston Wilson William Young Chris Yttri D.C. Fire & EMS MSA NIST University of Texas Austin (via telephone) Panther Pines Consulting Motorola Solutions Icom America NFPA Ultra Electronics USSI Relm Wireless Motorola Solutions Savox FDNY Consulting LLC FirstNet Grace Industries NIST (via telephone) Scott Safety Ultra Electronics USSI Harris Corporation EF Johnson Technologies Otto Engineering Dräger Fairfax County Fire Rescue Motorola Solutions Underwriters Laboratories LLC Motorola Solutions Scott Safety Dräger Harris Corporation University of Texas Austin (via telephone) NIST Otto Engineering AGENDA ITEM 4; APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 2014 MEETING, TUCSON (AZ) Wayne Haase pointed out that he was present at the last meeting via telephone but was not listed as an attendee in the Minutes. He requested that the Minutes be amended to include his name. MOTION BY JACK JARBOE; SECOND BY WAYNE HAASE To approve the Amended Minutes of the November 2014 meeting in Tucson, AZ MOTION CARRIED. AGENDA ITEM 5; CHAIRMAN S REMARKS Chairman Athanas informed the TC that Jason Allen s wife, Sara, passed away. Chairman Athanas also discussed scheduling of future meetings and the agenda for the current meeting. Page 2 of 6

4 AGENDA ITEM 6; NFPA 1982 (PASS) & TASK GROUP BREAKOUT Chairman Athanas led a review of NFPA 1982 and assigned Task Groups for each chapter as follows: Chapter 2 Tim Rehak Chad Morey Jack Jarboe Chapter 3 Beverly Gulledge Jose Velo Chapter 4 Jim Rose Chapter 5 Steve Townsend s Hazardous Locations (HazLoc) Task Group will address any issues in Chapter 5 and Chapter 7 regarding intrinsic safety or other hazardous location testing and certification methods. Mike Worrell will make the date change for section Chapter 6 Jim Rose will submit public input for sections through to correct some inconsistencies in the definitions of Type 1, 2 and 3 chirps. Matt Busa asked that the TC consider interference with radios in the frequency requirements. Chapters 7 and 8 Jim Rose will coordinate changing section 7.6 with Steve Townsend. The RF Task Group and Bill Young will look at additional tests for RF PASS in Chapters 7 and 8. Annex Bill Young will be looking at including additional RF PASS material in the Annex. AGENDA ITEM 7; PASS AUDIBILITY PROJECT AND SMART FIRE FIGHTING CASEY GRANT, FPRF Casey Grant, from the Fire Protection Research Foundation, along with Ofodike Ezekoye and Preston Wilson from the University of Texas Austin, presented Can You Hear Me Now? The Next Generation of Fire Fighter PASS, which summarized the PASS Audibility Project conducted by the University of Texas Austin. Results of the study can be viewed at and After the presentation, Chairman Athanas broke the TC into several groups (manufacturers, audio/radio engineers/scientists, and fire service personnel) to discuss possible changes to NFPA 1982 that could be generated by the University of Texas study. After those groups met and reported back to the TC, the consensus of the TC was that there would be no immediate impact on NFPA 1982 by the University of Texas study. However, further research was encouraged on the following topics, as summarized by Kamil Agi: Page 3 of 6

5 Interoperability and optimization between radio and PASS Here we would like to see the frequency and modulation of the PASS signal that is optimized with the radio. This is based on the Motorola discussion about the interference of the PASS signal with the digital vocoder. Optimum pass signal for propagation and localization Here we would like to see the frequency and modulation of the PASS signal that optimizes for propagation and localization. Does the PASS signal change when in a non-standard environment (e.g. when the PASS is manually activated during a mayday situation)? In this case, the radio communication may be more important than the PASS signal. The suggestion was whether the radio would interact with the PASS device by turning off the signal for 3-5 seconds (for example) while the radio is keyed to optimize communication. Committee should develop optimization priority Here the comment was that you can't optimize for all scenarios, and so the committee should prioritize 5 or 10 scenarios that the PASS signal should be optimized for. Multiple PASS alarms Here the scenario of interest is trying to understand (and measure) the case when multiple PASS alarms are triggered in multiple environments. What are the limitations and how to mitigate? How to integrate the PASS with SCBA This includes a low air alarm and the PASS signal activating simultaneously. Casey reported on the Smart Fire Fighting project. The presentation can be viewed at Casey introduced Nader Moayeri from NIST, who gave a presentation on NIST Plans for Testing Indoor Localization and Tracking Systems. Chairman Athanas appointed Matt Cnudde as the TC s liaison with Nader to monitor the progress of the development of the standard Nader is working on (ISO 18305). AGENDA ITEM 8; TASK GROUP REPORTS Ambassadors Task Group Steve Townsend reported that the IAB continues to be very interested in NFPA The law enforcement community is also interested. Mike Worrell reported that he gave a presentation to the IAFF. John Oblak reported on the TIA s activities. Steve Makky reported that APCO received a federal grant to manage the P25 process. John Facella reported that he will be creating some publicity for the TC by an article he will be writing. Interoperability Task Group Task Group Chairman Mike McKenna asked Simon Hogg to report on speech quality measurement for NFPA 1802 using the PESQ test method to measure speech quality. Simon deferred to Achim Volmer, who presented Draeger s proposal. Speech Intelligibility Task Group (New) Chairman Athanas announced the disbanding of the Sound Quality Task Group (chaired by Steve Townsend) and the replacement of that Task Group by the Speech Intelligibility Task Group (chaired by Mike McKenna). Page 4 of 6

6 Task Group Chairman Mike McKenna reported that the following people are members of his Task Group: Kamil Agi Matt Busa Lou Chavez Luke Hollmann Brian Martens Chad Morey Judge Morgan John Morris John Oblak Greg Vrablik Chris Yttri Harris Radio will be donating lab time and equipment for PESQ testing to develop a baseline. Intertek will send personnel to Harris to conduct the Harris PESQ testing. This is tentatively scheduled to take place in Rochester, NY. The deadline for results is May 1. The data generated will be provided to the TC before the July meeting. The following are scheduled to participate as of the date of these Minutes, although there could be additional participants: Radio Harris Harris Motorola Motorola Kenwood Harris Harris EF Johnson Relm Motorola RSM Harris MSA Motorola Scott Kenwood Otto Savox EF Johnson Relm Dräger AGENDA ITEM 9; REVIEW OF NFPA 1802 DRAFT (V. 2/1/15) John Morris started to lead a line-by-line discussion of Chapter 8 of NFPA His Task Group established the test matrix for Chapter 4, which then drives the sequence of testing in Chapter 8. Further work will be done to complete Chapter 8. Chairman Athanas summarized the conclusions reached by an ad hoc Task Group for dealing with the SCBA interface issue. The conclusions can be summarized as follows: The radio shall be tested as an independent device to NFPA The radio and RSM shall be tested as a system to NFPA The interface cable and any other radio communication-associated components on the SCBA shall be tested as part of the SCBA to NFPA 1981 requirements. A wireless RSM shall be considered an accessory of the radio and will be tested to NFPA 1802 as an RSM. Any hard-wired or wireless device, other than an RSM, that communicates with the radio but is integrated into an NFPA-compliant product that is not a radio (e.g., a helmet, turnout gear or an Page 5 of 6

7 SCBA) shall be tested to the requirements of the standard to which that product has been certified as NFPA-compliant. The TC on ESE will work with other TCs to ensure that appropriate communications performance requirements are added to those standards. The general approach is to create performance requirements for radios and RSMs so that any NFPA 1802-compliant RSM can work interchangeably with any NFPA 1802-compliant radio, and any NFPA 1802-compliant radio can work interchangeably with any NFPA 1802-compliant RSM. An important facet of this approach is specifying standardized connectors. Chairman Athanas directed Mike McKenna, Mike Worrell and Steve Townsend to consider cable pullout requirements to include in the cable retention test requirements specified in Chapters 7 and 8, per a suggestion from Scott Glazer. AGENDA ITEM 10; OLD BUSINESS There was no old business. AGENDA ITEM 11; NEW BUSINESS Barry Leitch presented an overview of FirstNet. FirstNet will be participating in future TC meetings so that the FirstNet program can take NFPA radio performance requirements into account. AGENDA ITEM 12; ADJOURNMENT MOTION BY MATTHEW BUSA; SECOND BY STEVE TOWNSEND To adjourn. MOTION CARRIED. Chairman Athanas adjourned the meeting at 11:55 on 12 March Respectfully submitted, Steven H. Weinstein, Acting Secretary Technical Committee on Electronic Safety Equipment Page 6 of 6

8 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 53-NFPA [ Section No ] This standard shall not apply to criteria for the use of thermal imagers by the fire service, the requirements for which are specified in NFPA 1408, Standard for Training Fire Service Personnel in the Operation, Care, Use, and Maintenance of Thermal Imagers. Clarifies application. Refer to NFPA 1982 section Submitter Full Name: JOHN MORRIS Organization: ISG INFRASYS Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 16:30:50 EDT 2015

9 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 3-NFPA [ Chapter 2 ] Chapter 2 Referenced Publications 2.1 General. The documents or portions thereof listed in this chapter are referenced within this standard and shall be considered part of the requirements of this document. 2.2 NFPA Publications. National Fire Protection Association, 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA NFPA 1971, Standard on Protective Ensembles for Structural Fire Fighting and Proximity Fire Fighting, 2013 edition. 2.3 Other Publications ANSI ISA Publications. American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43d Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY ANSI/ The International Society of Automation, 67 T.W Alexander Drive, P.O Box 12277, Research Triangle Park, NC ISA , Nonincendive Electrical Equipment for Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions 1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations, ASTM Publications. ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA ASTM B 117, Standard Practice for Operating Salt Spray (Fog) Apparatus, ASTM D 1003, Standard Test Method for Haze and Luminous Transmittance of Transparent Plastics, ISO/IEC Publications. International Standards Organization, 1 rue de Varembé, Case Postale 56, CH-1211 Genéve 20, Switzerland. IEC 60529, Degrees of protection provided by enclosures (IP Code) Ed.2. 2, 2013/Cor 1 b : IEC , Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) Part 6-2: Generic standards Immunity for industrial environments, IEC , Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) Part 6-3: Generic standards Emission standard for residential, commercial, and light-industrial environments, ISO 27, Guidelines for corrective action to be taken by a certification body in the event of misuse of its mark of conformity, ISO 65, General requirements for bodies operating product certification systems, 1998, (Superseded by ISO/IEC 17065). ISO DIS 9001, Quality management systems Requirements, ISO 17011, Conformity assessment General requirements for accreditation bodies accrediting conformity assessment bodies, ISO 17025, General requirements for the competence of testing and calibration laboratories, 2005/Cor 1: ISO 17493, Clothing and equipment for protection against heat Test method for convective heat resistance using a hot air circulating oven, ISO/IEC 17021, Conformity assessment Requirements for bodies providing audit and certification of management systems, ISO/IEC 17065, Conformity Assessment - Requirements for Bodies Certifiying Products, Processes, and Services, NIST Publications. National Institute of Standards and Technology, 100 Bureau Drive, Stop 1070, Gaithersburg, MD NIST Technical Note 1630, Evaluation of Image Quality of Thermal Imagers Used by the Fire Service, February 2009.

10 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Other Publications. Merriam-Webster s Collegiate Dictionary, 11th edition, Merriam-Webster, Inc., Springfield, MA, References for Extracts in Mandatory Sections. (Reserved) Referenced current editions. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 4-NFPA [Chapter B] Relationship Submitter Full Name: Aaron Adamczyk Organization: [ Not Specified ] Submittal Date: Fri Jun 27 22:07:28 EDT 2014

11 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 12-NFPA [ Section No ] ANSI Publications. American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43d Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY ANSI/ISA , Nonincendive Electrical Equipment for Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions 1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations, Updates publication reference to latest edition of ISA Changes between the 2007 and 2013 editions do not impact existing certifications. Submitter Full Name: PAUL KELLY Organization: UL LLC Submittal Date: Thu Nov 20 16:43:24 EST 2014

12 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 44-NFPA [ Section No ] ANSI Publications. American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43d Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY ANSI/ISA , Nonincendive Electrical Equipment for Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions 1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations, The latest edition of ANSI/ISA is dated The differences between the 2013 edition and the 2007 edition only involve increased certification options, and not any increases in severity of requirements. Submitter Full Name: PAUL KELLY Organization: UNDERWRITERS LABORATORIES INC Affilliation: UNDERWRITERS LABORATORIES INC Submittal Date: Fri Jun 05 08:30:48 EDT 2015

13 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 54-NFPA [ Section No ] ANSI Publications. American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43d Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY ANSI/ISA , Nonincendive Electrical Equipment for Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions 1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations, updated Submitter Full Name: JOHN MORRIS Organization: ISG INFRASYS Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 16:36:29 EDT 2015

14 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 18-NFPA [ Section No ] ISO/IEC Publications. International Standards Organization, 1 rue de Varembé, Case Postale 56, CH-1211 Genéve 20, Switzerland. IEC 60529, Degrees of protection provided by enclosures (IP Code) Ed. 2.1 b:2001. IEC , Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) Part 6-2: Generic standards Immunity for industrial environments, IEC , Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) Part 6-3: Generic standards Emission standard for residential, commercial, and light-industrial environments, ISO 27, Guidelines for corrective action to be taken by a certification body in the event of misuse of its mark of conformity, ISO 65, General requirements for bodies operating product certification systems, 1998 ISO17065:2012, Requirements for bodies certifying products, processes and services. ISO 9001, Quality management systems Requirements, ISO 17011, Conformity assessment General requirements for accreditation bodies accrediting conformity assessment bodies, ISO 17025, General requirements for the competence of testing and calibration laboratories, 2005/Cor 1: ISO 17493, Clothing and equipment for protection against heat Test method for convective heat resistance using a hot air circulating oven, ISO/IEC 17021, Conformity assessment Requirements for bodies providing audit and certification of management systems, Update reference document to current number and title. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 16-NFPA [Section No ] Relationship Same reference document. Submitter Full Name: James Rose Organization: Safety Equipment Institute Submittal Date: Mon Nov 24 14:05:45 EST 2014

15 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 101-NFPA [ New Section after ] TITLE OF NEW CONTENT XX Model. The collective term used to identify a group of elements or items of the same basic design and components from a single manufacturer produced by the same manufacturing and quality assurance procedures that are covered by the same certification. The term Model should be added to Chapter 3 Degfinitions as it does not currently exist. The proposed wording was taken fron NFPA The committee may also want to include the Model # in this defiinition. Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 13:04:45 EDT 2015

16 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 102-NFPA [ New Section after ] TITLE OF NEW CONTENT -3.3.XX Service Life The period for which compliant product may be useful before retirement. The term SERVICE LIFE does not exist in the current standard and should be soemthing to be considerd for the end user to be informed of. This wording was taken from NFPA Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 13:14:06 EDT 2015

17 0 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 16-NFPA [ Section No ] All certification shall be performed by a certification organization that meets at least the requirements specified in Section 4.2, Certification Program, and that is accredited for personal protective equipment in accordance with ISO , General requirements Requirements for bodies operating product certification systems certifying products, processes and services. The accreditation shall be issued by an accreditation body operating in accordance with ISO 17011, Conformity assessment General requirements for accreditation bodies accrediting conformity assessment bodies. Update document number and title to current version. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 17-NFPA [Section No ] Public Input No. 18-NFPA [Section No ] Relationship Submitter Full Name: James Rose Organization: Safety Equipment Institute Submittal Date: Mon Nov 24 13:56:40 EST 2014

18 1 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 49-NFPA [ New Section after ] Thermal imagers shall be listed to ANSI/ISA , Nonincendive Electrical Equipment for Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions 1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) L ocations, and shall meet the requirements for at least Class I, Division 2, Groups C and D and Class II, Division 2, Groups F and G hazardous locations, and with a Temperature Class of T3, T3A, T3B, T3C, T4, T4A, T5 or T6. For the purpose of the impact test referenced in 15.4 of ANSI/ISA , NFPA 1801 shall be considered the applicable standard for products in unclassified locations. There are three key aspects to this input - - 1) Relocate Clause to a new clause under 4.1 on general certification requirements, 2) Expand the Division 2 certification requirement to include Class II, Division 2, Groups F and G, in addition to the existing Class I, Division 2 requirements, and 3) Include reference to the T3 and T4 temperature classifications that have "A" suffixes, in addition to the existing reference to T3, T4, T5 and T6. The rationale for 1) is because compliance with ANSI/ISA includes requirements for product labeling, user information, and design requirements, in addition to performance requirements. As written and located within the current edition of NFPA 1801, it could be mistakenly assumed that only compliance with the performance requirements in ANSI/ISA-12.12,01 is required. To address this issue, comparable text to could be added under 5.1, 5.2 and 6.1, in addition to 7.1.4, but simply addressing the issue of compliance with ANSI/ISA solely under 4.1 seemed simpler with less potential for confusion. The rationale for 2) is because exposure to Class II explosive dust atmospheres is a concern for this equipment, in addition to exposure to Class I explosive gas atmospheres. Compliance with these Class II, Division 2 requirements mostly involves use of a NEMA Type 12 or better enclosure. The rationale for 3) is because T3A, T3B, T3C and T4A are permitted temperature classifications between T3 and T6 in both ANSI/ISA and in the NEC. See also Public Input No. 50-NFPA Submitter Full Name: PAUL KELLY Organization: UNDERWRITERS LABORATORIES INC Affilliation: UNDERWRITERS LABORATORIES INC Submittal Date: Fri Jun 05 08:58:15 EDT 2015

19 2 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 17-NFPA [ Section No ] The certification organization shall be accredited for personal protective equipment in accordance with ISO , General requirements Requirements for bodies operating product certification systems certifying products, processes and services. The accreditation shall be issued by an accreditation body operating in accordance with ISO 17011, Conformity assessment General requirements for accreditation bodies accrediting conformity assessment bodies. Update ISO document number and title to current version. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 16-NFPA [Section No ] Relationship Same reference document to be updated. Submitter Full Name: James Rose Organization: Safety Equipment Institute Submittal Date: Mon Nov 24 14:02:13 EST 2014

20 3 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 30-NFPA [ Section No ] The certification organization shall have a follow-up inspection program of the manufacturer s facilities of the compliant product with at least two random and unannounced visits per 12-month period to verify the product s continued compliance As part of the follow-up inspection program, the certification organization shall select sample compliant product at random from the manufacturer s production line, from the manufacturer s in-house stock, or from the open market Sample product shall be evaluated by the certification organization to verify the product s continued compliance in order to ensure that the materials, components, and manufacturing quality assurance systems are consistent with the materials, components, and manufacturing quality assurance that were inspected and tested by the certification organization during initial certification and recertification The certification organization shall be permitted to conduct specific testing to verify the product s continued compliance For products, components, and materials where prior testing, judgment, and experience of the certification organization have shown results to be in jeopardy of not complying with this standard, the certification organization shall conduct more frequent testing of sample product, components, and materials acquired in accordance with against the applicable requirements of this standard. Whole chapter can be removed. If chapter is clarified so that certification to ANSI/ISA is required, no follow-up inspection program is needed for NFPA1801.The ANSI/ISA Factory audit inspection program, together with chapter annual recertification will give the same effect. ANSI/ISA requires 4 yearly factory audit inspections. There is no need for additional NFPA1801 follow-up inspections above the annual NFPA1801 recertification and four factory audit inspections for ANSI/ISA. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 29-NFPA [Section No ] Relationship If ANSI/ISA certification is required, is unnecessary Submitter Full Name: Lea Dabiri Organization: Flir Systems Submittal Date: Mon Dec 15 09:32:22 EST 2014

21 4 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 55-NFPA [ Section No ] The following compliance statement shall be legibly printed on the product label: THIS THERMAL IMAGER MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF NFPA 1801, STANDARD ON THERMAL IMAGERS FOR THE FIRE SERVICE, XX EDITION. DO NOT REMOVE THIS LABEL! The date on the standard needs to be updated and corrected to the next edition Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 20:30:40 EDT 2015

22 5 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 56-NFPA [ Section No ] Each thermal imager shall be marked directly with the serial number and the with a serial number and the year and month of manufacture. New verbiage indicates that both a serial number and the year and month of manufacture shall be marked. Hopefully this will prevent the year and month from being embedded somewhere in in the serial number. This verbiage also is closer to similar wording in section making them more consistent. Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 20:35:02 EDT 2015

23 6 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 81-NFPA [ Section No ] Information and materials regarding pre-operational use shall be provided on at least the following areas: (1) Safety considerations (2) Pre-use checks (3) Limitations of use (4) Power source requirements, type, and brand (5) Estimated operation time on fully charged power source in each available mode (6) Estimated operational time associated with each of the four segments on the Power Source Satus Indicator (7) Low-power source signals and power supply replacement, where applicable (8) Charging and recharging procedures (9) Marking recommendations and restrictions (10) Warranty information (11) Recommended storage practices (12) Mounting on/in vehicles or fire apparatus (13) Explanation and identification of the features and functions of TI BASIC/TI BASIC PLUS (14) Symbols and functions with associated temperature references in available operating modes (15) If equipped with a temperature bar, adequate description of the use of the temperature bar (16) If equipped with a numeric temperature indicator, adequate description of the use of the numeric temperature indicator (17) If equipped with colorization, adequate description of the temperature thresholds for colorization Although the standard specifies percentage of power availablepercentage means nothing to the user. We specify in section that the the thermal imager shall be capable of continuously operationg for a minimum of 120 minutes in TI BASIC mode. If the manufacturer supplies a power source that is capable of operating for a minimum of 120 minutes or greater they should be able to provide the estimated level of power associated with each of the four segments in time. It should be noted that the operating time of a fully charged power source currently supplied in many thermal imagers far exceeds 120 minutes. Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 08:15:06 EDT 2015

24 7 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 93-NFPA [ New Section after ] All power sources consisting of battery cells and battery packs should be evaluated by a national recognized testing laboratory (NRTL) in accordance with the regulations outlined in UL 1642, Standard for Lithium Batteries, or UL 2054, Standard for Household and Commercial Batteries, or.iec62133 Safety requirements for portable sealed secondary cells, and for batteries made from them, for use in portable applications Promotion of note hidden in the appendix to the main specification. Includes proposed amendment to A Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 11:02:06 EDT 2015

25 8 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 94-NFPA [ New Section after ] All power sources consisting of battery cells and battery packs should have passed the UN38.3 T1 to T8 battery safety tests at a 3rd party laboratory. In order to ensure air transport safety, and to meet customer demand for transport of cargo containing lithium batteries, according to IATA "Dangerous Goods Rules, any Lithium batteries must have passed UN38.3 testing at a 3rd party laboratory. Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 11:10:58 EDT 2015

26 9 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 8-NFPA [ Section No ] 6.1.2* All thermal imagers shall be capable of continuously operating for a minimum of 120 minutes in TI BASIC mode in room temperature without the power source being changed or recharged. Specifying environmental conditions for this requirement. Submitter Full Name: Lea Dabiri Organization: Flir Systems Submittal Date: Wed Nov 19 13:07:44 EST 2014

27 0 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 92-NFPA [ Section No ] * All thermal imagers shall be capable of continuously operating for a minimum of 120 minutes in TI BASIC mode without the power source being changed or recharged. The continuous operating time should be measured with any passive functions such as automatic background video and image recording active. Passive functions such as automatic background video and image recording may reduce the running time of the thermal imager preventing it from offering the required 120 minutes minimum of operating time. Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 11:00:23 EDT 2015

28 1 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 2-NFPA [ New Section after ] Minimum video refresh rate All thermal imagers shall have a minumum video refresh rate of 30 frames per second. The original intent of the document was to require video refresh rates of 30Hz or higher. This was discussed and included in the pre-nfpa technical document but was lost somewhere along the line. A low refresh rate camera will pass the NFPA 1801 image quality tests since all the NFPA testing is done on static images. A refresh rate of less than 30Hz can make navigation more difficult and may lead to firefighter disorientation. Submitter Full Name: Craig Gestler Organization: MSA Affilliation: MSA Submittal Date: Fri Apr 25 15:58:02 EDT 2014

29 2 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 79-NFPA [ Section No ] All thermal imagers shall be provided with a method of with all of the methods/devices of attaching the thermal imager to the user, and the method of attachment shall not that the manufacturer may offer. Each method/device shall be attached to the thermal imager and the user as intended. When attached to both the user and the thermal imager they shall not degrade the function or performance of the thermal imager. We require that the thermal imager shall be provided with a method of attaching the thermal imager to the user, and the method of attachment shall not degrade the function or performance of the thermal imager but no where in the standard do we test for this. It is importaint to have have as today most thermal imagers should and are intended to be attached to the user, possibly by a retractable lanyard or strap rather than to just be hand held. It is understood that there are several methods of attachement and it would be counterproductive to the process to have a manufactuer submitt all specimens with all the attachement variations for all the testing. It is recommended that each means of attachment that a manufacturer offers be be supplied to the testing lab and that the testing lab simply attach them to the thermal imager as intended and then to the person as intended by the manufactuer to determine if either the attachement point on the thermal imager and/or the method of attachement degrades the function or performance of the thermal imager. Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 07:41:22 EDT 2015

30 3 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 57-NFPA [ Section No [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] The thermal imager shall have a power on/off button that cycles the thermal imager s power. The power power on/off button shall be located in an easily accessible area of the thermal imager. provides consistency in verbiage Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 20:56:00 EDT 2015

31 4 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 105-NFPA [ Section No ] The power on/off button shall be capable of being switched by a gloved hand. The gloves used for this function test shall be contructed from American cow hide and include a PTFE moisture barrier and shall comply with structural fire-fighting glove requirements of NFPA 1971, Standard on Protective Ensembles for Structural Fire Fighting and Proximity Fire Fighting. The requirements for the gloves used for the power button test are not specific enough. The NFPA 1971 requirement for a structural fire fighting glove is a minimum requirement. Many firefighters choose to wear gloves that offer additional protection but are less compliant (flexible), making it more difficult to push buttons on the TIC. The "gloved hand" requirement should not be based on just the minimum glove requirements. Submitter Full Name: Craig Gestler Organization: MSA Safety Affilliation: MSA Safety Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 15:07:51 EDT 2015

32 5 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 32-NFPA [ Section No ] The power on/off button shall be capable of being switched by a gloved hand. The gloves used for this function test shall comply with structural fire-fighting glove requirements of NFPA 1971, Standard on Protective Ensembles for Structural Fire Fighting and Proximity Fire Fighting. Requirement for power-button is already covered by section which covers all 'operational selection devices' Submitter Full Name: BERND SPELLENBERG Organization: DRAEGER SAFETY AG & CO KGAA Submittal Date: Wed Feb 25 08:56:32 EST 2015

33 6 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 58-NFPA [ Section No ] The power-on/off button shall be green in color. No other button(s) on the outside of the thermal imager shall be green in color. provides consistency in verbiage Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 21:00:45 EDT 2015

34 7 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 59-NFPA [ Section No ] The power-on/off button shall only turn the thermal imager on, turn the thermal imager off, and revert the thermal imager to the TI BASIC operational format from TI BASIC PLUS operational format. provides consistency in verbiage Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 21:02:57 EDT 2015

35 8 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 60-NFPA [ Section No [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] Where the power-on/off button is used to power up the thermal imager, the power-on process shall require the power button to be pressed and held for no more than 1 second. provides consistency in verbiage Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 21:06:37 EDT 2015

36 9 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 61-NFPA [ Section No ] Both the power-on/off button activation and the automatic activation shall present a useful thermal image on the display in 60 seconds or less. provides consistency in verbiage Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 21:09:59 EDT 2015

37 0 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 62-NFPA [ Section No ] Both the power button activation and the automatic activation shall present a useful thermal image on the with all the icons required in the TI Basic Operational Format on the display in seconds or less. The time of 60 seconds was originally allocated for older technology (BST) thermal imagers that required a "warm up/start up" time. The BST technology is no longer manufactured. As the use of thermal imagers becomes more user friendly through training and simplification of use as allotted with this standard the presentation of a useful image on the display and the icons required by the TI Basic Operational Format should not be longer than 30 seconds Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 21:11:16 EDT 2015

38 1 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 78-NFPA [ Section No ] Both the power button activation and the automatic activation shall present a useful thermal image on the display in 60 in 10 seconds or less. Should the thermal Imager for any reason need to have power reapplied, 60 seconds is much too long a period of time to be without an image. This reduced time of 10 seconds should be easily achievable. Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 07:39:28 EDT 2015

39 2 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 33-NFPA [ Section No ] The power on/off button shall be protected from accidental change of operation and impact damage. Requirement of protection from 'accidental Change of mode of operation' is already covered by section which requires for all 'operational selection devices' to be 'designed to prevent unintentional activation, deactivation, and change of operation' Submitter Full Name: BERND SPELLENBERG Organization: DRAEGER SAFETY AG & CO KGAA Submittal Date: Wed Feb 25 09:03:33 EST 2015

40 3 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 100-NFPA [ Section No ] TI BASIC operational format functions shall include the following: (1) Grayscale imagery with white-hot polarity (2) Power source status (3) Internal electronics overheat indicator (4) Thermal imager on indicator (5) Icons related to normal operation are permitted to be displayed Manufactures display Icons on display e.g. current colour mode to help the user. Permitting these in TI Basic mode will reduce confusion when plus mode features are available and used. Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 12:41:13 EDT 2015

41 4 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 63-NFPA [ Section No ] TI BASIC operational format functions shall include the following: (1) Grayscale imagery with white-hot polarity (2) Power source status indicator (3) Internal electronics overheat indicator (4) Thermal imager on indicator Consistency in wording in the document Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 21:24:24 EDT 2015

42 5 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 9-NFPA [ Section No ] TI BASIC operational format functions shall include the following: (1) Grayscale imagery with white-hot polarity (2) Power source status (3) Internal electronics overheat indicator (4) Thermal imager on indicator Thermal imager "on" indicator does not add any relevant information for the user. When implemented on the screen it is already obvious that the TI is on. Not even when implemented as an additional indicator (e.g. LED) it does not add enought information to be motivated. There are e.g. cheaper ways to test batteries and if the display is broken, the camera is not functional any way. Submitter Full Name: Lea Dabiri Organization: Flir Systems Submittal Date: Wed Nov 19 13:16:00 EST 2014

43 6 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 64-NFPA [ Section No ] In addition to the requirements specified in 6.4.3, the TI BASIC operational format shall be permitted to also include the following: (1) Heat indicating color and, if so equipped with heat indicating color, a color heat color reference bar (2) Temperature bar (3) Numeric temperature measurement indicator Consistent terminology throughout the document Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 21:31:30 EDT 2015

44 7 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 77-NFPA [ Section No ] In addition to the requirements specified in 6.4.3, the TI BASIC operational format shall be permitted to also include the following: (1) Heat indicating color and, if so equipped with heat indicating color, a color reference bar (2) Temperature bar (3) Numeric temperature measurement indicator (4) Passive functions such as automatic background video and image recording. New features that have become popular since the original specification was released and where these are invisible to the user they should be made available within the TIBASIC operational format so that they can be maintained during power cycling. See clause Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 07:03:32 EDT 2015

45 8 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 65-NFPA [ Section No ] TI BASIC PLUS operational format shall have at least the TI BASIC operational format functions specified in 6.4.3, and any or all of the TI BASIC operational format functions listed in shall also be permitted. Consistency in wording throughout the standard Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 21:37:50 EDT 2015

46 9 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 103-NFPA [ New Section after ] TITLE OF NEW CONTENT 6.5.X Image/Audio Recording The user shall have knowledge by some means (an icon or LED) that an internal recording device is/has been turned on/ activated. The recording device shall be capable of being turned off / de activated by either deprssing the green power/-on/off button or an alternative method of selecting the operational format other than by software access via a computer. An internal "Blackbox" /recording feature may be benificial but can also be an item that can be utilized negatively in certain situations and the user/fire department may be held liable. The user should have a readily accessible option to deactivate the record feature. Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 13:47:14 EDT 2015

47 0 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 68-NFPA [ Section No ] Additional Information Area, Left Vertical Section. The left vertical section shall be reserved for additional information in both the TI BASIC and TI BASIC PLUS operational formats utilizing standard icons/symbols and locations. and In the TI BASIC operational format the Left Vertical Section shall include only the following: (1) Low sensitivity mode indicator (2) TI BASIC PLUS indicator upon activation, if so equipped In the TI BASIC PLUS operational format the Left Vertical Section shall include the following: (1) Low sensitivity mode indicator (2) TI BASIC PLUS indicator upon activation (3) Activation and status of optional TI BASIC PLUS features and functions, if so equipped In the TI basic Operational Mode the Left vertical section should only display those indicators to be used by the operator in the TI Basic mode of operation. Any additional icons can be confusing and create discrepancies to user trained to use NFPA 1801 compliant thermal imagers especially if the user does not see the TI Basic Plus operational format indicator but does see other icons. Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 22:11:29 EDT 2015

48 1 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 66-NFPA [ Section No ] Alarm and Operational Indicator Area, Center Vertical Section. The center column of the display plane shall be reserved for the alarm and operational indicators and shall include the following: (1) Power source status indicator (2) Temperature measurement zone, if so equipped (3) Internal electronics overheat indicator Consistency throughout the standard Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 21:40:57 EDT 2015

49 2 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 104-NFPA [ Section No [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] In the TI BASIC mode, the heat color reference bar shall have a color scale that includes only the following colorization: (1) Transparent at the bottom of the heat color reference bar before color indication begins and shall not be more than 50% of the overall height of the heat color refernce bar. (2) Yellow at the low end of the heat color reference bar (3) Orange in the middle of the heat color reference bar (4) Red at the high end of the heat color reference bar Further clarification of the heat color refernce bar is required for standardization so as to not leave anything to interpretaion by the manufacturer. Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 14:00:21 EDT 2015

50 3 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 76-NFPA [ Section No [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] In the TI BASIC mode, the heat color reference bar shall have a color scale that includes only the following colorization: (1) Transparent GreyScale at the bottom of the heat color reference bar before color indication begins (2) Yellow at the low end of the heat color reference bar (3) Orange in the middle of the heat color reference bar (4) Red at the high end of the heat color reference bar This clarifies the original intent of the standard that the reference bar should show the display content appropriate to the temperature. In the case before colour indication begins would be a greyscale. Where this has been interpreted literally the temperature bar representation could become misleading due to the scene content mixing with the bar. Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 05:41:54 EDT 2015

51 4 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 97-NFPA [ Section No ] The heat color reference bar shall be legible, shall extend to at least 75 percent of the height of the thermal imager display, and shall and can be dynamic in that it will change if necessary to correspond to the temperatures set by the manufacturer in whatever sensitivity mode the thermal imager is in. The relationship of colour to scene temperature shall be the same in all sensitivity modes. The duplication of one colour e.g. Yellow representing different temperatures eg. 150F, 400F and 800F is confusing and dangerous to the user. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 98-NFPA [Section No ] Relationship Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 12:05:35 EDT 2015

52 5 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 10-NFPA [ Section No ] Whenever any change occurs in the scale of the color reference bar, a green triangle shall be displayed for at least x seconds above and connected to the color reference bar as shown in Figure Clarification in order to make the implementation easier and more standardized. Submitter Full Name: Lea Dabiri Organization: Flir Systems Submittal Date: Wed Nov 19 13:27:41 EST 2014

53 6 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 98-NFPA [ Section No ] Whenever any change occurs in the scale of the color reference bar, a green triangle shall be displayed above and connected to the color reference bar as shown in Figure The triangle will remain on permanently after the first change occurs. It is therefor unable to indicate any further changes of the scale to the user, including the original start up condition. This does not add any useful functionality to the camera and does to help the user. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 97-NFPA [Section No ] Relationship Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 12:13:03 EDT 2015

54 7 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 67-NFPA [ Section No ] Thermal Imager-On Indicator. A visual indication to the user user other than a usable image on the display that the thermal imager is in the powered-on operational mode shall be and shall be visible to the user any time the thermal imager is powered on. Although it may require more draw on the power supply an indicator should be available to the user to indicate the thermal imager is "on" in the case of a failure of the display or if a thermal imager is equipped with a Stand By/Sleep /Power Save feature Submitter Full Name: ROBERT ATHANAS Organization: FDNYSAFE-IR INCORPORATED Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 21:53:51 EDT 2015

55 8 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 75-NFPA [ Section No ] Thermal Imager-On Indicator. A visual indication to the user that the thermal imager is in the powered-on operational mode shall be visible to the user any time the thermal imager is powered on This clause is satisfied by a thermal imager where the display is illuminated whenever the imager is switched powered on. The standard is not clear with regard to this clause and how it can be interpreted by manufacturers. Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 05:31:38 EDT 2015

56 9 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 34-NFPA [ Section No ] The TI BASIC PLUS operational format indicator shall be an indicator consisting of a solid green plus sign ( + ) enclosed in a transparent square box with a green border as shown in Figure Correction of wording. Submitter Full Name: BERND SPELLENBERG Organization: DRAEGER SAFETY AG & CO KGAA Submittal Date: Wed Feb 25 09:07:39 EST 2015

57 0 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 99-NFPA [ New Section after 7.1 ] Thermal Imagers shall be tested for spot temperature accuracy, to verify design requirement in Section when viewing a small object. Thermal Imagers shall be tested for relationship of colour to temperature to verify design requirement The specification is open to certifying a camera that can show an incorrect spot temperature due to failing to change sensitivity mode. The camera may therefore show the maximum temperature of high sensitivity mode say 300F while viewing a small hot object at 800F, therefore misleading the user. The same issue applies to colour related temperature. A suitable test method will require definition, but this could also be used to validate the requirement that colours are not repeated in the temperature range Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 12:23:24 EDT 2015

58 1 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 19-NFPA [ Section No ] Thermal imagers shall be tested for listing listed to ANSI/ISA , Nonincendive Electrical Equipment for Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions 1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations, and shall meet the requirements for at least Class I, Division 2, Groups C and D hazardous locations, and with a Temperature Class of T3 or T4 or T5 or T6. For the purpose of the impact test referenced in 15.4 of ANSI/ISA , NFPA 1801 shall be considered the applicable standard for products in unclassified locations. "Listed" will include ongoing compliance with the UL913 requirements since factory visits are included with listed products. Saying only "tested" only requires the manufacturer to test the product once. This change will clarify the requirement that the product shall be listed for ongoing compliance for annual re-certification. Submitter Full Name: James Rose Organization: Safety Equipment Institute Submittal Date: Mon Nov 24 14:09:48 EST 2014

59 2 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 29-NFPA [ Section No ] Thermal imagers shall be tested for listing be certified to ANSI/ISA , Nonincendive Electrical Equipment for Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions 1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations, and shall meet the requirements for at least Class I, Division 2, Groups C and D hazardous locations, and with a Temperature Class of T3 or T4 or T5 or T6. For the purpose of the impact test referenced in 15.4 of ANSI/ISA , NFPA 1801 shall be considered the applicable standard for products in unclassified locations. The products should be CERTIFIED to ANSI/ISA Motivation: Statement from Stephen Sanders, Technical Director SEI (Safety Equipment Institute) (ssanders@seinet.org): With regard to Section of NFPA and the need for certification vs. testing to the ANSI/ISA standard SEI has required certification for electronics to the various intrinsic safety and/or hazloc standards, as opposed to just testing to the requirements in the applicable standard. SEI s rationale for requiring certification relies upon SEI understanding of the intent of the NFPA Technical Committees. In addition to NFPA , requirements for compliance of electronics with intrinsic safety standards exist in other similar NFPA standards, including both NFPA (SCBA) and NFPA (PASS). Both of these standards specifically require certification for electronics. While NFPA may utilize the word tested in Section 7.1.4, we believe that it was the intent of both the NFPA Electronics Safety Equipment Technical Committee and its parent committee, the Correlating Committee, that a TIC s electronics be certified (which of course includes testing/evaluation and follow-up factory visits) as opposed to just being tested. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 30-NFPA [Section No ] Relationship Submitter Full Name: Lea Dabiri Organization: Flir Systems Submittal Date: Mon Dec 15 09:27:27 EST 2014

60 3 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 50-NFPA [ Section No ] Thermal imagers shall be tested for listing to ANSI/ISA , Nonincendive Electrical Equipment for Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions 1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations, and shall meet the requirements for at least Class I, Division 2, Groups C and D hazardous locations, and with a Temperature Class of T3 or T4 or T5 or T6. For the purpose of the impact test referenced in 15.4 of ANSI/ISA , NFPA 1801 shall be considered the applicable standard for products in unclassified locations. The key aspect to this input is that it is not simply deleting 7.1.4, but instead is relocating Clause to a new clause under 4.1 on general certification requirements (along with making some proposed revisions to the text as well). The rationale for relocating is because compliance with ANSI/ISA includes requirements for product labeling, user information, and design requirements, in addition to performance requirements. As written and located within the current edition of NFPA 1801, it could be mistakenly assumed that only compliance with the performance requirements in ANSI/ISA-12.12,01 is required. To address this issue, comparable text to could be added under 5.1, 5.2 and 6.1, in addition to 7.1.4, but simply addressing the issue of compliance with ANSI/ISA solely under 4.1 seemed simpler with less potential for confusion. See also Public Input No. 49-NFPA (which includes details / rationale on the proposed revisions to the text). Submitter Full Name: PAUL KELLY Organization: UNDERWRITERS LABORATORIES INC Affilliation: UNDERWRITERS LABORATORIES INC Submittal Date: Fri Jun 05 09:03:54 EDT 2015

61 4 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 96-NFPA [ Section No ] Thermal imagers shall be tested for listing to ANSI/ISA , Nonincendive Electrical Equipment for Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions 1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations, and shall meet the requirements for at least Class I, Division 2, Groups C and D hazardous locations, and with a Temperature Class of T3 or T4 or T5 or T6. For the purpose of the impact test referenced in 15.4 of ANSI/ISA , NFPA 1801 shall be considered the applicable standard for products in unclassified locations. Assessment shall include all user removable parts in isolation and the action of removing them from the camera in the powered and unpowered state. Where the use of a tool secured feature is relied upon to meet the ANSI / ISA compliance and this feature is not engaged the camera shall inform the user by way of a message that prevents camera normal use. Locking features that rely on the use of special tools to limit the ability to perform simple tasks such as battery replacement are often ignored by users that have not read the small print hidden in the product user guide. However the certification bodies are much more comfortable with this approach and adherence is recognised within the high risk Petrochemical / Mining Industries. Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 11:55:30 EDT 2015

62 5 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 24-NFPA [ Section No ] Thermal imagers shall be tested for electromagnetic emission as specified in IEC , Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) Part : Generic standards Emission standard for residential, commercial, and lightindustrial environments, and shall meet the emissions requirements. Any situation requiring first responder intervention more closely mimics an industrial environment where the functionality of the equipment takes precedence over any EMC concerns that might be in place in a residential environment under normal circumstances. The industrial standard allows equipment designers greater latitude in designing equipment that must perform reliably in difficult situations. Submitter Full Name: Craig Gestler Organization: MSA Safety, Inc Affilliation: MSA Safety, Inc Submittal Date: Tue Dec 02 08:12:10 EST 2014

63 6 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 69-NFPA [ Section No ] Specimens are permitted to shall be optimally focused to 1 m by the manufacturer for this test. SR targets are designed for testing at 1 meter therefor thermal imagers should be focused at 1 meter. Submitter Full Name: JOHN MORRIS Organization: ISG INFRASYS Submittal Date: Thu Jul 02 08:02:54 EDT 2015

64 7 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 85-NFPA [ Section No ] Specimens are permitted to be optimally focused to 1 m by the manufacturer for this test The specimens must be focused to 1m. The test chart was designed to be viewed at 1m. The results obtained from a camera not focused at 1m may lead to the analysis program producing rogue values that may indicate better or worse performance than the camera is actually capable of. A relatively low spatial resolution camera may still achieve the minimum pass criterial of SR = In addition a camera whose focus point moves, to (2m to 3m) may also show an improvement in the SR value. (data can be presented to show this but is much too big to attach.) Submitter Full Name: JON TURNER Organization: E2V LTD Submittal Date: Mon Jul 06 10:07:57 EDT 2015

65 8 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 35-NFPA [ Section No [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] The thermal imager positioning device shall position the thermal imager facing the spatial resolution source target at a distance of 1 m ± 5 mm ( in. ± 0.2 in) from the outermost optical element to the stencil. The originally mentioned ranges 1m+/-5mm and 40in +/-0.2in did not even overlap. Submitter Full Name: BERND SPELLENBERG Organization: DRAEGER SAFETY AG & CO KGAA Submittal Date: Wed Feb 25 09:10:47 EST 2015

66 9 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 36-NFPA [ Section No ] The image processing software shall scan each of the four regions of interest for the lightest pixel intensity (I ) max and the darkest pixel intensity (I ). The software shall then find the contrast of each of the four regions of min interest using Equation ( ) Additional Proposed Changes File Name Description Approved eg8_1_5_11.tif Corrected equation Correction of math. Submitter Full Name: BERND SPELLENBERG Organization: DRAEGER SAFETY AG & CO KGAA Submittal Date: Wed Feb 25 09:13:11 EST 2015

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68 0 of 93 7/8/ :23 AM Public Input No. 37-NFPA [ Section No ] Each of the four sets of converging lines shall be rotated such that the center line is vertical before selecting a region of interest and performing calculations. The region of interest shall be selected from index 1 to 5 on the low frequency bars, and from index 5 to 9 on the high frequency bars. The region of interest shall be drawn along the lines as specified in Figure No symbology shall be included in the ROI. In the case where symbology interferes with the target, the ROI shall be drawn around the interference such that horizontal lines are perpendicular to the center line and equal portions of white and dark areas are included. Figure Region of Interest Selection. Additional Proposed Changes File Name Description Approved ROI-selection.tif original figure , rotated by 90 degrees ClockWise. Section is asking 'that Each of the four sets of converging lines shall be rotated such that the center line is vertical before selecting a Region of interest', figure is showing a set of converging lines with a horizontal center line. It might be clearer to Show Image with orientation that is in line with wording, i.e. rotated 90 degrees. Submitter Full Name: BERND SPELLENBERG Organization: DRAEGER SAFETY AG & CO KGAA Submittal Date: Wed Feb 25 09:25:22 EST 2015

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