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1 Technical Committee on Private Water Supplies First Draft Meeting July 11, 2016 San Diego Marriott Mission Valley 8757 Rio San Diego Drive San Diego, CA AGENDA Monday July 11, Call to Order 8:00 AM 2. Introductions of Members and Staff 3. Review and Approval of A2015 Second Draft Meeting Minutes 4. Review of A2018 Revision Cycle and Meeting Schedule 5. Review of Distributed Material and Workload a. Act on Public Input b. Act on Committee First Revisions Page 1 of 80

2 Address List No Phone Private Water Supply Piping Systems Automatic Sprinkler Systems Kenneth W. Wagoner Chair Parsley Consulting Engineers 350 West 9th Avenue, Suite 206 Escondido, CA SE 8/5/2009 James B. Biggins SE 1/1/1996 Principal TUV SUD America Inc./Global Risk Consultants Corporation West Barr Road Manhattan, IL Alternate: William J. Gotto Roland A. Asp Principal National Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc. 40 Jon Barrett Road Patterson, NY National Fire Sprinkler Association Design Alternate: Jon R. Ackley James A. Charrette Principal Allan Automatic Sprinkler Corp. of So. California 3233 Enterprise Street Brea, CA National Fire Sprinkler Association Installer/Maintainer Alternate: Marinus Both 07/01/2016 David R. Hague M 07/29/2013 IM 7/26/2007 Flora F. Chen Principal Hayward Fire Department, California 777 B Street Hayward, CA E 10/20/2010 Stephen A. Clark, Jr. Principal Allianz Risk Consulting, LLC 97 Lighthouse Lane Moneta, VA Alternate: Andrew C. Higgins I 1/14/2005 Jeffry T. Dudley Principal National Aeronautics & Space Administration 503 Glenbrook Circle Rockledge, FL U 10/20/2010 Byron E. Ellis Principal Entergy Corporation 5564 Essen Lane, Mail Code L-ESSN-2M Baton Rouge, LA Edison Electric Institute Alternate: Katherine L. Vaughan U 7/23/2008 Brandon W. Frakes Principal Global Asset Protection Services 196 Shady Grove Lane Advance, NC Alternate: Mark A. Bowman I 1/15/2004 Robert M. Gagnon Principal Gagnon Engineering 2660 Daisy Road Woodbine, MD SE 4/1/1994 LaMar Hayward Principal 3-D Fire Protection, Inc. PO Box Idaho Falls, ID IM 8/2/2010 Jeff Hebenstreit Principal UL LLC 484 Tamarach Drive Edwardsville, IL Alternate: Michael G. McCormick RT 08/11/2014 Page 2 of 80 1

3 Address List No Phone Private Water Supply Piping Systems Automatic Sprinkler Systems Alan R. Laguna Principal Merit Sprinkler Company, Inc. 930 Kenner Avenue PO Box 1447 Kenner, LA IM 10/3/2002 John Lake Principal City of Gainesville 306 NE 6th Avenue, Building B Gainesville, FL /01/2016 David R. Hague E 1/31/2001 Michael Larsen Principal Amway Inc East Fulton Street Ada, MI U 03/07/2013 James M. Maddry Principal James M. Maddry, P.E Foxfire Place Martinez, GA SE 1/1/1991 Donald McGriff Principal ISCO Industries 3435 Stanwood Boulevard Huntsville, AL M 10/28/2014 Bob D. Morgan Principal Fort Worth Fire Department 1000 Throckmorton Street Fort Worth, TX E 8/2/2010 Dale H. O'Dell L 8/2/2010 Principal National Automatic Sprinkler Fitters LU Stallion Trails Victorville, CA United Assn. of Journeymen & Apprentices of the Plumbing & Pipe Fitting Industry Alternate: Charles W. Ketner Shawn C. Olson Principal Clackamas County Fire District # SE Oak Grove Boulevard Milwaukie, OR E 10/18/2011 James R. Richardson Principal Lisle Woodridge Fire District 1005 School Street Lisle, IL E 04/05/2016 Daniel Sanchez Principal City of Los Angeles Building & Safety 201 North Figueroa Street, Suite 400 Los Angeles, CA E 10/29/2012 James R. Schifiliti Principal Fire Safety Consultants, Inc Alft Lane, Suite 100 Elgin, IL Illinois Fire Prevention Association IM 1/18/2001 Peter T. Schwab Principal Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers, Inc. 222 Capitol Court Ocoee, FL IM 7/29/2005 J. William Sheppard Principal Sheppard & Associates, LLC 6726 Enclave West Bloomfield, MI Alternate: Larry Keeping SE 1/1/1984 Austin L. Smith Principal Consolidated Nuclear Security, LLC, Y-12 PO Box 2009, MS 8107 Oak Ridge, TN U 3/1/2011 Page 3 of 80 2

4 Address List No Phone Private Water Supply Piping Systems Automatic Sprinkler Systems Michael J. Spaziani Principal FM Global 1151 Boston-Providence Turnpike PO Box 9102 Norwood, MA Alternate: Angele Morcos I 12/08/2015 Chen-Hsiang Su Principal JENSEN HUGHES 4 Overlook Point Lincolnshire, IL /01/2016 David R. Hague I 07/29/2013 Luke Hilton Voting Alternate Liberty Mutual Property Ballantyne Corporate Place, Suite 525 Charlotte, NC I 10/1/1996 Martin Ramos Voting Alternate Environmental Systems Design, Inc. 175 West Jackson Blvd., Suite 1400 Chicago, IL SE 3/15/2007 Jeffrey J. Rovegno Voting Alternate Mr. Sprinkler Fire Protection 100 Derek Place Roseville, CA American Fire Sprinkler Association IM 8/5/2009 James A. Zimmerman Voting Alternate JENSEN HUGHES 600 West Fulton Street, Suite 500 Chicago, IL SE 03/05/2012 Jon R. Ackley Alternate Dalmatian Fire, Inc West 73rd Street Indianapolis, IN National Fire Sprinkler Association Design Principal: Roland A. Asp M 10/29/2012 Marinus Both Alternate Western States Fire Protection Company d.b.a. Statewide Fire Protection 3130 Westwood Drive Las Vegas, NV National Fire Sprinkler Association Installer Principal: James A. Charrette IM 12/08/2015 Mark A. Bowman Alternate XL Global Asset Protection Services Chevington Drive Pickerington, OH Principal: Brandon W. Frakes I 1/15/2004 William J. Gotto SE 8/5/2009 Alternate TUV SUD America Inc./Global Risk Consultants Corporation 100 Walnut Avenue, 5th Floor Clark, NJ Principal: James B. Biggins Andrew C. Higgins Alternate Allianz Risk Consultants, LLC 38 Kilbride Drive Pinehurst, NC Principal: Stephen A. Clark, Jr. I 3/21/2006 Larry Keeping Alternate PLC Fire Safety Solutions 3413 Wolfedale Road, Suite 6 Mississauga, ON L5C 1V8 Canada Principal: J. William Sheppard SE 03/07/2013 Page 4 of 80 3

5 Address List No Phone Private Water Supply Piping Systems Automatic Sprinkler Systems Charles W. Ketner L 8/2/2010 Alternate National Automatic Sprinkler Fitters LU 669 Joint Apprenticeship & Training Committee 7050 Oakland Mills Road Columbia, MD United Assn. of Journeymen & Apprentices of the Plumbing & Pipe Fitting Industry Principal: Dale H. O'Dell Michael G. McCormick Alternate UL LLC 333 Pfingsten Road Northbrook, IL Principal: Jeff Hebenstreit 07/01/2016 David R. Hague RT 10/20/2010 Angele Morcos Alternate FM Global 1151 Boston-Providence Turnpike Norwood, MA Principal: Michael J. Spaziani I 07/29/2013 Katherine L. Vaughan Alternate Dominion Resources Services, Inc. 701 East Cary Street OJRP 4 Richmond, VA Edison Electric Institute Principal: Byron E. Ellis U 04/08/2015 Frans Alferink Nonvoting Member Wavin Overseas 7700 Ad Dedemsvaart Rollepaal 19 Dedemsvaart, OV 7701 BR Netherlands U 10/29/2012 David R. Hague Staff Liaison National Fire Protection Assocation 1 Batterymarch Park Quincy, MA /18/2016 Page 5 of 80 4

6 Technical Committee on Private Water Supply Piping Systems Second Draft Meeting Minutes June 17, 2014 San Diego Marriott Del Mar El Camino Real San Diego, CA The meeting was called to order by TC Chair Ken Wagoner at 8:00 AM. 2. The TC reviewed and approved the A2015 First Draft Meeting Minutes. 3. NFPA Staff (Matt Klaus) reviewed the regulations governing technical committee meetings and outlined the protocol for making motions for the Second Draft meeting. 4. TC Chair Jim Biggins reviewed the following items with the TC: a. Overview Public Comments b. Potential Committee Second Revisions based on Task Group Reports Task Group Reports 5. The Technical Committee heard the following task group reports: a. Metric Task Group b. Trench Task Group c. Flushing Task Group d. Water Supply Task Group e. NFPA 24 Rewrite Task Group Report 6. TC Chair Ken Wagoner called for new business. The following item was presented to the task group: a. The FRPF Water Supply Adjustment project has not been finalized. The TC may need to amend the water supply Second Revision with a TIA if the findings of the report differ from the Second Revision. 7. The meeting was adjourned at 2:20 PM local time. Page 6 of 80

7 SD (PRI) Attendees 6/17/2014 Principals: Kenneth Wagoner Roland Asp James Biggins Phillip Brown Stephen Clark Byron Ellis David Fuller Alan Laguna Michael Larsen Bob Morgan Shawn Olson Daniel Sanchez Peter Schwab J. William Sheppard Chen-Hsiang Su Voting Alternates: Martin Ramos Alternates Cliff Hartford Larry Keeping Matt Klaus, NFPA Staff Liaison Guests: Jeff Hebenstreit Peter Thomas Don McGriff Audrey Goldstein Page 7 of 80

8 Process Stage Comment Stage (Second Draft) 2018 ANNUAL REVISION CYCLE * Public Input Closing Dates may vary according to standards and schedules for Revision Cycles may change. Please check the NFPA Website for the most up to date information on Public Input Closing Dates and schedules at # (i.e. and click on Next Edition tab. Public Input Stage (First Draft) Process Step Dates for TC Dates for TC with CC Public Input Closing Date 6/29/2016 6/29/2016 Final date for TC First Draft Meeting 12/7/2016 9/7/2016 Posting of First Draft and TC Ballot 1/25/ /19/2016 Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot 2/15/ /9/2016 Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot recirc 2/22/ /16/2016 Posting of First Draft for CC Meeting 11/23/2016 Final date for CC First Draft Meeting 1/4/2017 Posting of First Draft and CC Ballot 1/25/2017 Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot 2/15/2017 Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot recirc 2/22/2017 Post First Draft Report for Public Comment 3/1/2017 3/1/2017 Public Comment closing date 5/10/2017 5/10/2017 Notice published on Consent Standards (Standards that receive No Comments). Note: Date varies and determined via TC ballot. Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards (15 Days) (Standards That Received No Comments) Final date for TC Second Draft Meeting 11/8/2017 8/2/2017 Posting of Second Draft and TC Ballot 12/20/2017 9/13/2017 Final date for Receipt of TC Second Draft Ballot 1/10/ /4/2017 Final date for receipt of TC Second Draft ballot recirc 1/17/ /11/2017 Posting of Second Draft for CC Mtg 10/18/2017 Final date for CC Second Draft Meeting 11/29/2017 Posting of Second Draft for CC Ballot 12/20/2017 Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot 1/10/2018 Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot recirc 1/17/2018 Post Second Draft Report for NITMAM Review 1/24/2018 1/24/2018 Tech Session Preparation (& Issuance) Notice of Intent to Make a Motion (NITMAM) Closing Date 2/21/2018 2/21/2018 Posting of Certified Amending Motions (CAMs) and Consent Standards 4/4/2018 4/4/2018 Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards (15 Days after posting) 4/19/2018 4/19/2018 SC Issuance Date for Consent Standards (10 Days) 4/29/2018 4/29/2018 Tech Session Association Meeting for Standards with CAMs 6/4 7/2018 6/4 7/2018 Appeals and Issuance Appeal Closing Date for Standards with CAMs (20 Days after ATM) 6/27/2018 6/27/2018 Council Issuance Date for Standards with CAMs* 8/14/2018 8/14/2018 Page 8 of 80

9 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 3-NFPA [ New Section after 1.4 ] A.1.4 It is the intent of the committee to recognize that future editions of this standard are a further refinement of this edition and earlier editions. The changes in future editions will reflect the continuing input of the fire protection community in its attempt to meet the purpose stated in this standard. Compliance with all requirements of a future edition could be considered as providing an equivalent level of system integrity and performance of the system. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input Many AHJ's will not recognize future editions. This annex note is intended to give guidance that use of an entire future edition of the standard could be considered an equivalency as allowed in 1.4. This language will be proposed to other sprinkler standards and has been accepted by NFPA 14 & NFPA 25. Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Tue Dec 22 10:32:25 EST 2015 Page 9 of 80

10 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 1-NFPA [ Chapter 2 ] Chapter 2 Referenced Publications 2.1 General. The documents or portions thereof listed in this chapter are referenced within this standard and shall be considered part of the requirements of this document. 2.2 NFPA Publications. National Fire Protection Association, 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA NFPA 13, Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems, 2016 edition. NFPA 13D, Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems in One- and Two-Family Dwellings and Manufactured Homes, 2016 edition. NFPA 13R, Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems in Low-Rise Residential Occupancies, 2016 edition. NFPA 20, Standard for the Installation of Stationary Pumps for Fire Protection, 2016 edition. NFPA 22, Standard for Water Tanks for Private Fire Protection, 2013 edition. NFPA 25, Standard for the Inspection, Testing, and Maintenance of Water-Based Fire Protection Systems, 2014 edition. NFPA 780, Standard for the Installation of Lightning Protection Systems, 2014 edition. NFPA 1961, Standard on Fire Hose, 2013 edition. NFPA 1963, Standard for Fire Hose Connections, 2014 edition. 2.3 Other Publications ASME Publications. American Society of Mechanical Engineers ASME International, Two Park Avenue, New York, NY ASME B1.20.1, Pipe Threads, General Purpose (Inch), ASME B16.1, Gray Iron Pipe Flanges and Flanged Fittings, Classes 12, 125, and 250, ASME B16.3, Malleable Iron Threaded Fittings, Classes 150 and 300, ASME B16.4, Gray Iron Threaded Fittings, Classes 125 and 250, ASME B16.5, Pipe Flanges and Flanged Fittings NPS 1 2 through 24, ASME B16.9, Factory-Made Wrought Steel Buttweld Fittings, ASME B16.11, Forged Steel Fittings, Socket- Welded and Threaded, ASME B16.18, Cast Bronze Solder Cast Copper Alloy Solder Joint Pressure Fittings, ASME B16.22, Wrought Copper and Bronze Solder and Copper Alloy Solder - Joint Pressure Fittings, ASME B16.25, Buttwelding Ends, Page 10 of 80

11 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM ASTM Publications. ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA ASTM A234/A234M, Specification for Piping Fittings of Wrought Carbon Steel and Alloy Steel for Moderate and Elevated Temperatures, 2013e1.ASTM A53/A53M, Standard Specification for Pipe, Steel, Black and Hot-Dipped, Zinc-Coated, Welded and Seamless, ASTM A135/A135M, Standard Specification for Electric-Resistance-Welded Steel Pipe, 20 09(, reapproved 2014 ). ASTM A234/A234M, Specification for Piping Fittings of Wrought Carbon Steel and Alloy Steel for Moderate and High Temperature Service, ASTM A795/A795MStandard Specification for Black and Hot-Dipped Zinc-Coated (Galvanized)Welded and Seamless Steel Pipe for Fire Protection Use, ASTM B43, Specification for Seamless Red Brass Pipe, 2009 Standard Sizes, ASTM B75/B75M, Specification for Seamless Copper Tube, ASTM B88, Specification for Seamless Copper Water Tube, ASTM B251, Requirements for Wrought Seamless Copper and Copper-Alloy Tube, IEEE/ASTM-SI-10 ASTM SI10, Standard for Use of the International System of Units (SI): The Modern Metric System, Page 11 of 80

12 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Publications. American Water Works Association, 6666 West Quincy Avenue, Denver, CO C104/A21.4, Cement- Mortar Lining for Ductile- Iron Pipe and Fittings for Water, C105/A21.5, Polyethylene Encasement for Ductile- Iron Pipe Systems, C110/A21.10, Ductile- Iron and Gray- Iron Fittings, C111/A21.11, Rubber-Gasket Joints for Ductile- Iron Pressure Pipe and Fittings, C115/A21.15, Flanged Ductile- Iron Pipe with Ductile- Iron or Gray- Iron Threaded Flanges, C116/A21.16, Protective Fusion-Bonded Epoxy Coatings for the Interior and Exterior Surfaces of Ductile-Iron and Gray-Iron Fittings for Water Supply Service, 2003, 2009, Erratum, C150/A21.50, Thickness Design of Ductile- Iron Pipe, C151/A21.51, Ductile- Iron Pipe, Centrifugally Cast for Water, C153/A21.53, Ductile-Iron Compact Fittings for Water Service, C200, Steel Water Pipe 6 in. and (150 mm) and Larger, , Errata, C203, Coal-Tar Protective Coatings and Linings for Steel Water Pipelines Enamel and Tape Hot Applied, 2002 Pipe, C205, Cement-Mortar Protective Lining and Coating for Steel Water Pipe 4 in. and Larger Shop Applied, C206, Field Welding of Steel Water Pipe, C207, Steel Pipe Flanges for Waterworks Service Sizes 4 in. Through 144 in., 2007 (100mm Through 3,600mm), C208, Dimensions for Fabricated Steel Water Pipe Fittings, C300, Reinforced Concrete Pressure Pipe, Steel-Cylinder Type, C301, Prestressed Concrete Pressure Pipe, Steel-Cylinder Type, C302, Reinforced Concrete Pressure Pipe, Non-Cylinder Type, C303, Reinforced Concrete Pressure Pipe, Bar-Wrapped, Steel-Cylinder Type, Pretensioned, C400, Standard for Asbestos-Cement Distribution Pipe, 4 in. Through 16 in. (100 mm through 400 mm), for Water Distribution Systems, Withdrawn. C600, Standard for the Installation of Ductile Iron Water Mains and Their Appurtenances, C602, Cement-Mortar Lining of Water Pipe Lines 4 in. in Place 4 in. (100mm) and Larger in Place, C603, Standard for the Installation of Asbestos-Cement Pressure Pipe, 2005 Withdrawn. C900, Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) Pressure Pipe, 4 in. Through 12 in. (100mm Through 300mm), for Water Transmission and Distribution, 2007, Errata, C905, Standard for Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) Pressure Pipe and Fabricated Fittings, 14 in. Through 48 in. (350 mm Through 1200 mm), 2010 for Water Transmission and Distribution, 2010, Erratum, C906, Polyethylene (PE) Pressure Pipe and Fittings, 4 in. (100 mm) Through 63 in. (1575 mm) for Water Distribution Waterworks, C909, Molecularly Oriented Polyvinyl Chloride (PVCO) Pressure Pipe, 4 in. through 24 in. (100 mm through 600 mm), for Water, Wastewater, and Reclaimed Water Service, Other Publications. Merriam-Webster s Collegiate Dictionary, 11th edition, Merriam-Webster, Inc., Springfield, MA, Page 12 of 80

13 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM 2.4 References for Extracts in Mandatory Sections. NFPA 20, Standard for the Installation of Stationary Pumps for Fire Protection, 2016 edition. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input Referenced current SDO names, addresses, standard names, numbers, and editions. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 2-NFPA [Chapter E] Relationship Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: Aaron Adamczyk Organization: [ Not Specified ] Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Sun Dec 20 21:34:45 EST 2015 Page 13 of 80

14 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 25-NFPA [ Section No ] Publications. American Water Works Association, 6666 West Quincy Avenue, Denver, CO C104, Cement Mortar Lining for Ductile Iron Pipe and Fittings for Water, C105, Polyethylene Encasement for Ductile Iron Pipe Systems, C110, Ductile Iron and Gray Iron Fittings, C111, Rubber-Gasket Joints for Ductile Iron Pressure Pipe and Fittings, C115, Flanged Ductile Iron Pipe with Ductile Iron or Gray Iron Threaded Flanges, C116, Protective Fusion-Bonded Epoxy Coatings for the Interior and Exterior Surfaces of Ductile-Iron and Gray-Iron Fittings for Water Supply Service, C150, Thickness Design of Ductile Iron Pipe, C151, Ductile Iron Pipe, Centrifugally Cast for Water, C153, Ductile-Iron Compact Fittings for Water Service, C200, Steel Water Pipe 6 in. and Larger, C203, Coal-Tar Protective Coatings and Linings for Steel Water Pipelines Enamel and Tape Hot Applied, C205, Cement-Mortar Protective Lining and Coating for Steel Water Pipe 4 in. and Larger Shop Applied, C206, Field Welding of Steel Water Pipe, C207, Steel Pipe Flanges for Waterworks Service Sizes 4 in. Through 144 in., C208, Dimensions for Fabricated Steel Water Pipe Fittings, C300, Reinforced Concrete Pressure Pipe, Steel-Cylinder Type, C301, Prestressed Concrete Pressure Pipe, Steel-Cylinder Type, C302, Reinforced Concrete Pressure Pipe, Non-Cylinder Type, C303, Reinforced Concrete Pressure Pipe, Steel-Cylinder Type, Pretensioned, C400, Standard for Asbestos-Cement Distribution Pipe, 4 in. Through 16 in. (100 mm through 400 mm), for Water Distribution Systems, C600, Standard for the Installation of Ductile Iron Water Mains and Their Appurtenances, C602, Cement-Mortar Lining of Water Pipe Lines 4 in. and Larger in Place, C603, Standard for the Installation of Asbestos-Cement Pressure Pipe, C900, Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) Pressure Pipe, 4 in. Through 12 in., for Water Distribution, C905, Standard for Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) Pressure Pipe and Fabricated Fittings, 14 in. Through 48 in. (350 mm Through 1200 mm), C906, Polyethylene (PE) Pressure Pipe and Fittings, 4 in. (100 mm) Through 63 in. (1575 mm) for Water Distribution, C909, Molecularly Oriented Polyvinyl Chloride (PVCO) Pressure Pipe, 4 in. through 24 in. (100 mm through 600 mm), for Water, Wastewater, and Reclaimed Water Service, M11, A Guide for Steel Pipe Design and Installation, 4th edition, Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input Page 14 of 80

15 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Reference is made to the statement of problem and substantiation of Public Input No. 24-NFPA [ Section No ]. Related Public Inputs for This Document: Public Input No. 376-NFPA [ Section No ] Public Input No. 375-NFPA [ Section No ] Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 24-NFPA [Section No ] Relationship Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: Ariel Carp Organization: On my behalf Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Sun Jun 26 10:17:18 EDT 2016 Page 15 of 80

16 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 11-NFPA [ New Section after ] Where a waterflow test was conducted, the volume and pressure available for use for a fire protection system shall be determined from either or * Knowledge of the water supply and engineering judgment taking into account reasonable daily and seasonal fluctuations not extreme conditions * Use of the following formula: P = The pressure available from the water supply to use for a fire protection system that will be calculated for a given flow (Q) Q = The flow that will be used to calculate the available pressure from the water supply. P R = The residual pressure measured during the waterflow test while the flow Q R was discharging from the water supply. P S = The static pressure measured during the waterflow test. Q R = The flow discharging from the water supply when P R was measured. P L = The expected low static pressure at the location of the test results accounting for daily and seasonal fluctuations (not extreme conditions) obtained from the water utility. Where the water authority does not provide P L, see Where the water authority does not provide a value for P L, the value of P L shall be calculated from the following formula: P L = P S 10 psi Additional Proposed Changes File Name Description Approved Safety_Margin_Proposal- NFPA_24.docx Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input This is how the three proposals on this subject will look when put together. Note that this also has the formula in it, which I cannot get into Terra View There needs to be a reasonable adjustment to water supply data in order to accommodate changes due to daily and seasonal fluctuations. The fact that this is currently not a requirement allows the design of fire protection systems that are known by the designer to have an ineffective water supply almost immediately after installation. This proposal takes care of the traditional arguments against a mandated safety margin by creating a standardized method of calculating that safety margin; however, this standardized method is only used if there is no information regarding the water utility. So, those situations where the fluctuations in the water delivery are known at a particular location, then these take priority. Spelling out the fact that NFPA 24 is not expecting unusual circumstances like water main breaks and 100 year droughts should help alleviate liability concerns on the part of the water utility, which should lead to a more open dialog between the fire protection professional and the water utility representative. The reality is that extreme conditions like 100 year droughts and water main breaks are better handled by the Impairment Procedures of NFPA 25. One of the concerns about this proposal last cycle was that there was no way to account for the situation where the water utility brings more pumps on line as the flow demand increases. These situations produce a water Page 16 of 80

17 Insert new sections as follows: Water Supply Adjustment Proposals Put Together Where a waterflow test was conducted, the volume and pressure available for use for a fire protection system shall be determined from either or * Knowledge of the water supply and engineering judgment taking into account reasonable daily and seasonal fluctuations not extreme conditions * Use of the following formula: P Q Q R 1.85 PR PS PL P = The pressure available from the water supply to use for a fire protection system that will be calculated for a given flow (Q) Q = The flow that will be used to calculate the available pressure from the water supply. PR = The residual pressure measured during the waterflow test while the flow QR was discharging from the water supply. PS = The static pressure measured during the waterflow test. QR = The flow discharging from the water supply when PR was measured. PL = The expected low static pressure at the location of the test results accounting for daily and seasonal fluctuations (not extreme conditions) obtained from the water utility. Where the water authority does not provide PL, see Where the water authority does not provide a value for PL, the value of PL shall be calculated from the following formula: PL = PS 10 psi A An adjustment to the waterflow test data to account for the following should be made, as appropriate: (1) Daily and seasonal fluctuations (2) Possible interruption by flood or ice conditions (3) Large simultaneous industrial use (4) Future demand on the water supply system (5) Other conditions that could affect the water supply Page 17 of 80

18 A The purpose of the adjustment is to take into account reasonable daily and seasonal variations in the water supply, which are easily predicted and tracked by a water utility. It is not the intent to use this section to account for unusual conditions such as 100 year droughts or water main breaks. These unusual conditions are handled through the Impairment Procedures of NFPA 25 and should not be considered when determining the ability of a water supply to meet the demand of a fire protection system under more normal circumstances. A Consider the following example. A waterflow test is conducted at a location where a city water main is going to be tapped for a new sprinkler system. During the test, the static pressure is measured at 70 psi, the residual pressure is measured at 50 psi while 1300 gpm was discharging from a nearby hydrant. The water utility is contacted and they indicate that a reasonable low static pressure accounting for typical daily and seasonal fluctuations in this area is 55 psi. The equation that describes the water supply available for a fire sprinkler system would be: P Q There are two ways to use this formula. One would be to assume two different values for Q, calculate P and then draw a graph on log 1.85 paper. Any fire sprinkler system demand falling on or below the line on this graph would be acceptable in accordance with NFPA 13 to work with this water supply. In this case, the two easiest flows to pick for Q would be 0 and 1300 gpm. When Q = 0, P is simply 55 psi. When Q = 1300 gpm, P = 35 psi. These two points can be plotted on log 1.85 paper as shown in Figure A The second way to use this formula would be to calculate the fire protection system and determine the flow necessary to make the system work. Plug this flow into the formula above and see what the available pressure from the water supply will be at that flow. For example, if a sprinkler system connected to this water supply had a demand of 580 gpm, the available pressure from the water supply would be: P P = (-20)(0.225) + 55 P = 50.5 psi So, as long as the sprinkler system has a pressure demand less than or equal to 50.5 psi, it will work with this water supply. Page 18 of 80

19 Sprinkler system demand can be anywhere in shaded region Figure A Available Water Supply Curve for Example in Section A Page 19 of 80

20 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM supply curve that looks more like a saw-tooth configuration than a line. That concern has been handled with the proposed language in the new section Another of the concerns last cycle about this proposal was the fact that the modified line was not parallel to the original test line, and might cross the test line at a high flow. This concern has been mitigated by making the line parallel to the test line, which is more representative of what will happen in the real world anyway. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 12-NFPA [Section No. A.5.1.2] Relationship Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: Kenneth Isman Organization: University of Maryland Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Thu May 26 11:47:10 EDT 2016 Page 20 of 80

21 0 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 16-NFPA [ Section No ] 5.1.2* The volume flow and pressure of a public water supply shall be determined from waterflow test data or other approved method. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input The flow (volume rate), typically measured or calculated in gallons/minute, is required to be determined of a public water supply, not the volume (gallons). Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: James Richardson Organization: Lisle Woodridge Fire District Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Fri Jun 03 16:49:41 EDT 2016 Page 21 of 80

22 1 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 30-NFPA [ Section No ] * A new connection to a municipal water supply shall be permitted to utilize a nonlisted, nonindicating valve, including a T-wrench as part of a tapping assembly, shall be permitted For new installations, where more than one nonindicating underground gate valve is installed in a water system, all underground gate valves shall be of the same opening direction. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input This proposal is offered to provide better clarification to the type of valves is to be installed. Without the reference to a new connection to a municipal water supply, the current text in the 2016 edition of the standard suggests that a nonlisted, nonindicating valve is permitted at any time, as long as it is part of a tapping assembly. Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: Larry Keeping Organization: PLC Fire Safety Solutions Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Tue Jun 28 23:42:57 EDT 2016 Page 22 of 80

23 2 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 13-NFPA [ Section No ] The connection from the hydrant to the main shall not be less than 6 in on a grid system with cross connections no greater than 600 feet. (150) (nominal). If installed on a end line the minimum size shall be 8 inch Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input Manual M31, "Distribution System Requirements for Fire Protection" states under a table heading "Typical Minimum Values", for "Smallest pipes in networks" as "6 in.", and for "Smallest branching pipes (dead ends) "8 in.". This information was found on the internet Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: Ed White Organization: Greenville Fire Rescue Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Mon May 30 01:14:15 EDT 2016 Page 23 of 80

24 3 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 31-NFPA [ Section No ] A control valve in accordance with Section 6.1 shall be installed in each hydrant connection Valves required by shall be installed within 20 ft (6.1 m) of the hydrant Valves shall be clearly identified and kept free of obstructions Where valves cannot be located in accordance with , valve locations shall be permitted where approved by the AHJ. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input This proposal is offered to provide clarification to the type of valve is to be installed to control a hydrant. Without the reference to Section 6.1, the current edition of the standard does not even specify that the valve be listed. Additionally, a separate proposal has also been offered, to change the illustrations of the hydrant connection valves Figure A.7.3.1(a) and Figure A.7.3.1(b) from the nonindicating type to the post indicator type, because as per the charging statement Section 6.1.1, indicating type valves are called for, whereas the nonindicating type are only allowed under with the permission of the AHJ. Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: Larry Keeping Organization: PLC Fire Safety Solutions Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Tue Jun 28 23:45:56 EDT 2016 Page 24 of 80

25 4 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 32-NFPA [ Section No ] Where soil is of such a nature that the hydrants will not drain properly with the arrangement specified in , or where groundwater stands at levels above that of the drain, the hydrant drain shall be plugged before installation * Hydrants with drain plugs shall be marked to indicate the need for pumping out after usage. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input Editorial correction speaks on the support of hydrants, whereas it is that deals with drainage preparation. Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: Larry Keeping Organization: PLC Fire Safety Solutions Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Tue Jun 28 23:49:02 EDT 2016 Page 25 of 80

26 5 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 24-NFPA [ Section No ] Page 26 of 80

27 6 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Listing. Page 27 of 80

28 7 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Piping manufactured in accordance with Table shall be permitted to be used.. Table Manufacturing Standards for Underground Pipe Ductile Iron Materials and Dimensions Cement Mortar Lining for Ductile Iron Pipe and Fittings for Water Polyethylene Encasement for Ductile Iron Pipe Systems Rubber-Gasket Joints for Ductile Iron Pressure Pipe and Fittings Flanged Ductile Iron Pipe with Ductile Iron or Gray Iron Threaded Flanges Thickness Design of Ductile Iron Pipe Ductile Iron Pipe, Centrifugally Cast for Water Standard for the Installation of Ductile Iron Water Mains and Their Appurtenances Steel Steel Water Pipe 6 in. and Larger Coal-Tar Protective Coatings and Linings for Steel Water Pipelines Enamel and Tape Hot Applied Cement-Mortar Protective Lining and Coating for Steel Water Pipe 4 in. and Larger Shop Applied Field Welding of Steel Water Pipe Steel Pipe Flanges for Waterworks Service Sizes 4 in. Through 144 in. Dimensions for Fabricated Steel Water Pipe Fittings A Guide for Steel Pipe Design and Installation Concrete Reinforced Concrete Pressure Pipe, Steel-Cylinder Type Prestressed Concrete Pressure Pipe, Steel-Cylinder Type Reinforced Concrete Pressure Pipe, Non-Cylinder Type Reinforced Concrete Pressure Pipe, Steel-Cylinder Type, Pretensioned Standard for Asbestos-Cement Distribution Pipe, 4 in. Through 16 in., for Water Distribution Systems Cement-Mortar Lining of Water Pipe Lines 4 in. and Larger in Place Plastic Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) Pressure Pipe, 4 in. Through 12 in., for Water Distribution Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) Pressure Pipe, 14 in. Through 48 in., for Water Distribution Standard C104 C105 C111 C115 C150 C151 C600 C200 C203 C205 C206 C207 C208 M11 C300 C301 C302 C303 C400 C602 C900 C905 Page 28 of 80

29 8 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Materials and Dimensions Polyethylene (PE) Pressure Pipe and Fittings, 4 in. (100 mm) Through 63 in. (1575 mm) for Water Distribution Molecularly Oriented Polyvinyl Chloride (PVCO) 4 in. Through 12 in. (100 mm Through 600 mm) for Water Distribution Brass Specification for Seamless Red Brass Pipe Copper Specification for Seamless Copper Tube Specification for Seamless Copper Water Tube Requirements for Wrought Seamless Copper and Copper-Alloy Tube Standard C906 C909 ASTM B43 ASTM B75 ASTM B88 ASTM B251 Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input Related Public Inputs for This Document: Public Input No. 25-NFPA [ Section No ] Public Input No. 376-NFPA [ Section No ] Public Input No. 375-NFPA [ Section No ] The Resolution for the Public Comment No. 2-NFPA [ Section No ] says (page 25/35 of file 24_A2015_SD_PCStatements.pdf ): The document has required steel piping for general underground service to be listed for the last few editions. The document has required steel piping for general underground service to be listed in the NFPA 13/ /7/10/13 editions. The document has required steel piping for general underground service to not be nonlisted in the NFPA 13/ /7/10/13 editions. The document has required steel piping for other than general underground service to be listed or to be nonlisted in the NFPA /7/10/13 and NFPA /10/13 editions. The current NFPA 13/ edition requires steel piping for other than general underground service to be listed. This Public Input restores the document to the requirement in the NFPA /7/10/13 and NFPA /10/13 editions: steel piping for other than general underground service is required to be listed (through ) or to be nonlisted (through Table ). Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 25-NFPA [Section No ] Relationship Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: Ariel Carp Organization: On my behalf Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Sun Jun 26 10:01:54 EDT 2016 Page 29 of 80

30 9 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 17-NFPA [ Section No ] Where piping installed in a private fire service main must be installed above grade, the piping materials shall conform to NFPA * * Underground piping shall be permitted to extend into the building through the slab or wall not more than 24 in 24 in. ( 600 mm 600 mm ). Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input Chapter 10 applies to private fire service mains installed below grade. Chapter 12 applies to private fire service mains installed above grade. Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: James Richardson Organization: Lisle Woodridge Fire District Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Fri Jun 03 17:18:57 EDT 2016 Page 30 of 80

31 0 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 33-NFPA [ Section No ] 10.3 Connection of Pipe, Fittings, and Appurtenances * Connection of all fittings and appurtenances to piping shall be in accordance with Section Threaded Pipe and Fittings. Connections of pipe and fittings indicated in Table and Table shall be in accordance with the referenced standard in the table Listed Connections. Connections utilizing listed products shall be in accordance with the listing limitations and the manufacturer s installation instructions Where listing limitations or installation instructions differ from the requirements of this standard, the listing limitations and installation instructions shall apply Threaded Pipe and Fittings. Where pipe, fittings or appurtenances are connected using threads, all threads shall be in accordance with ANSI/ASME B Grooved Connections. Where pipe, fittings, or appurtenances are connected using grooves, they shall be connected in accordance with through Pipe, fittings, and appurtenances to be joined with grooved couplings shall contain cut, rolled, or cast grooves that are dimensionally compatible with the couplings Pipe, fittings, and appurtenances that are connected with grooved couplings and are part of a listed assembly shall be permitted to be used * Pipe joined with grooved fittings shall be joined by a listed combination of fittings, gaskets, and grooves All joints for the connection of copper tube shall be brazed or joined using pressure fittings as specified in Table Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input Editorial correction speaks to all of the various types of connections, whereas it is that specifically deals with pipe threads. Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: Larry Keeping Organization: PLC Fire Safety Solutions Street Address: City: State: Page 31 of 80

32 1 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Zip: Submittal Date: Tue Jun 28 23:51:39 EDT 2016 Page 32 of 80

33 2 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 19-NFPA [ Sections , , , ] Sections , , , Where private fire service mains are installed above ground, they shall be protected from freezing in accordance with NFPA Private fire service mains installed in water raceways or shallow streams shall be installed so that the piping will remain in the running water throughout the year Where piping is installed adjacent to a vertical face, it shall be installed from the vertical face at the same distance as if the piping were buried Protection of private fire service mains from freezing using heat tracing shall be permitted when the heat tracing is specifically listed for underground use Heat tracing not listed for underground use shall be permitted when piping is installed Where an underground fire service main extends into a building in accordance with , the exposed pipe shall be protected from freezing in accordance with Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input Chapter 10 is underground requirements. Chapter 12 is aboveground requirements. Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: James Richardson Organization: Lisle Woodridge Fire District Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Fri Jun 03 23:01:26 EDT 2016 Page 33 of 80

34 3 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 15-NFPA [ Section No [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] The depth of cover for private fire service mains and their appurtenances to protect against mechanical damage shall be in accordance with Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input Correction of typo. The entire section of applies to the protection of piping from mechanical damage, not just section Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: James Richardson Organization: Lisle Woodridge Fire District Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Fri Jun 03 16:37:00 EDT 2016 Page 34 of 80

35 4 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 20-NFPA [ Section No ] Where private fire service mains are installed above ground, they shall be protected with bollards or other means as approved by the AHJ when subject to mechanical damage. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input Chapter 10 is underground requirements. Chapter 12 is aboveground requirements. Relocate section to Chapter 12. Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: James Richardson Organization: Lisle Woodridge Fire District Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Fri Jun 03 23:11:53 EDT 2016 Page 35 of 80

36 5 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 14-NFPA [ Section No ] * Pipe joints and fittings shall not be located directly under foundation fittings footings. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input Change of language to be consistent with intent of section and Figure A Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: James Richardson Organization: Lisle Woodridge Fire District Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Fri Jun 03 16:29:56 EDT 2016 Page 36 of 80

37 6 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 34-NFPA [ Section No ] * Pipe joints shall not be located directly under foundation fittings footings. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input Editorial Correction. Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: Larry Keeping Organization: PLC Fire Safety Solutions Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Tue Jun 28 23:54:15 EDT 2016 Page 37 of 80

38 7 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 26-NFPA [ Section No ] * Where approved, private fire service mains supplying systems within the building shall be permitted to extend more than 10 ft (3.0 m) under the building when all the requirements of , through are met Where the piping is installed under the building, all foundations or footers over the private fire service main shall be arched to create a minimum of 24 in (600 mm) clearance It shall be acceptable to install the piping in covered trenches where the trenches are accessible from within the building All joints shall be mechanically restrained A valve shall be installed before the piping enters under the building and within 24 in. (600 mm) of where the piping enters the building. Additional Proposed Changes File Name Description Approved Trench_Task_Group.docx Trench Task Group Work Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input During the last revision, a task group was formed to work on trench language for piping running under buildings. During the second draft the task group proposed language to the committee and the language was accepted. However, the first draft language was published. Attached is the language that the task group created. Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Tue Jun 28 12:06:54 EDT 2016 Page 38 of 80

39 Private fire service mains shall not be permitted to extend more than 10 ft (3 m) under the building except as allowed in Where private fire service mains extend more than 10 ft (3 m) into the building, they shall be run in a trench The trench shall be accessible from within the building. A A grate or steel plate are common methods of accessing the trench The trench shall have rigid walls and a base The trench shall be constructed of non combustible materials Provisions for draining water shall be provided for the trench. A The intent of this requirement is to prevent the piping from being exposed to standing water. Draining can be accomplished by providing a floor drain, sloping of the trench, or other approved method Where the piping in the trench is installed under foundations or footers, the foundation or footer shall be arched to create a minimum of 24 in (610 mm) clearance Where acceptable to the Authority Having Jurisdiction, pipe sleeves shall be permitted to be used Piping in the trench shall be permitted to be in accordance with Where the trench is entirely of concrete construction, aboveground piping in accordance with NFPA 13 shall be permitted to be used Where piping installed in the trench is in accordance with , all joints shall be restrained in accordance with or Where piping is installed in a trench as allowed by , a valve shall be provided where the underground piping enters the trench. Page 39 of 80

40 A It is the intent of this section to require a valve at each point where the pipe enters the trench when the trench traverses the entire building. Generally if the piping terminates at a point within the building usually a valve is provided at a riser, allowing isolation of the pipe section in the trench. Page 40 of 80

41 8 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 27-NFPA [ Section No ] In the absence of specific guidleines, the maximum allowable particle size for backfill within 1' of the pipe should be 3/4". Nominal pipe sizes of 4" or smaller should not exceed 1/2" maximum particle size. Rocks larger than 1-1/2" shall not be used for backfill. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input The comment of Rocks shall not be used for backfill seems to be vague and without definition. I have proposed language that was borrowed from Amster Howard's book Pipeline Installation 2.0. I added the 1/2" size limitation as that is a recommendation for HDPE pipe and feel it may be appropriate for other piping materials. Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: Donald McGriff Organization: Isco Industries Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Tue Jun 28 12:51:37 EDT 2016 Page 41 of 80

42 9 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 4-NFPA [ Section No ] Approval of Underground Piping. The installing contractor shall be responsible for the following: (1) Notifying the AHJ and the owner's representative of the time and date testing is to be performed (2) Performing all required acceptance tests (3) Completing and signing the contractor's material and test certificate(s) shown in Figure Revise Figure to remove the use of a burlap bag while flushing. Figure Sample of Contractor's Material and Test Certificate for Underground Piping. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input The figure calls out the use of a burlap bag during flushing in the sample and as such becomes a defacto requirement. However, the use of this bag is not discussed in the body of the standard and should not be treated as a requirement. Other methods of inspecting for debris can be used. Page 42 of 80

43 0 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: Charles McKnight Organization: Bechtel National, Inc. Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Mon Jan 18 15:08:01 EST 2016 Page 43 of 80

44 1 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 5-NFPA [ Section No ] Page 44 of 80

45 2 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Approval of Underground Piping. The installing contractor shall be responsible for the following: (1) Notifying the AHJ and the owner's representative of the time and date testing is to be performed (2) Performing all required acceptance tests (3) Completing and signing the contractor's material and test certificate(s) shown in Figure Figure Sample of Contractor's Material and Test Certificate for Underground Piping. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input Change the test certificate to read "Have copies of appropriate instructions and care and maintenance charts been provided to the owner or owner's representative." Some AHJ's have been requiring that a copy NFPA 25 be left at Page 45 of 80

46 3 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM each building of apartment complexes. Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: Peter Schwab Organization: Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinkler Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Sun Feb 14 15:46:24 EST 2016 Page 46 of 80

47 4 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 22-NFPA [ New Section after ] A means shall be provided to verify that the flow rate required by or was achieved during the flushing operation. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input There is currently no requirement for verification that the required flow was achieved during the flush test and therefore, when the test is performed, it is unknown whether or not the correct flow was achieved. Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: James Richardson Organization: Lisle Woodridge Fire District Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Fri Jun 03 23:19:03 EDT 2016 Page 47 of 80

48 5 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 10-NFPA [ Section No ] * All piping and attached appurtenances subjected to system working pressure shall be hydrostatically tested at gauge pressure of 200 psi (13.8 bar) or 50 psi (3.4 bar) in excess of the system working pressure, whichever is greater, and shall maintain that pressure at gauge pressure of ±5 psi (0.34 bar) for 2 hours. Aternatively, pressure testing of Polyethylene piping may be conducted in accordance with the requirements and recommendations of ASTM F 2164(Field Leak Testing of Polyethylene Pressure Piping Systems Using Hydrostatic Pressure). Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input due to the viscoelastic stress relieving nature of polyethylene pipe, the actual loss as shown by gauge pressure may fall below the allowable listed in as currently written. The proposed addition of the ASTM standard would allow for a testing protocol that is commonly used with HDPE piping systems. This change may be better suited as a new subparagraph to section instead of where I proposed placement. Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: Donald McGriff Organization: Isco Industries Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Mon May 02 14:23:59 EDT 2016 Page 48 of 80

49 6 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 21-NFPA [ New Section after ] Aboveground private fire service mains shall be protected with bollards or other means as approved by the AHJ when subject to mechanical damage. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input Relocation of section to chapter 12 for aboveground requirements. Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: James Richardson Organization: Lisle Woodridge Fire District Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Fri Jun 03 23:13:10 EDT 2016 Page 49 of 80

50 7 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Public Input No. 12-NFPA [ Section No. A ] Page 50 of 80

51 8 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM A An adjustment to the waterflow test data to account for the following should be made, as appropriate: (1) Daily and seasonal fluctuations (2) Possible interruption by flood or ice conditions (3) Large simultaneous industrial use (4) Future demand on the water supply system (5) Other conditions that could affect the water supply.1.1 The purpose of the adjustment is to take into account reasonable daily and seasonal variations in the water supply, which are easily predicted and tracked by a water utility. It is not the intent to use this section to account for unusual conditions such as 100 year droughts or water main breaks. These unusual conditions are handled through the Impairment Procedures of NFPA 25 and should not be considered when determining the ability of a water supply to meet the demand of a fire protection system under more normal circumstances. A Consider the following example. A waterflow test is conducted at a location where a city water main is going to be tapped for a new sprinkler system. During the test, the static pressure is measured at 70 psi, the residual pressure is measured at 50 psi while 1300 gpm was discharging from a nearby hydrant. The water utility is contacted and they indicate that a reasonable low static pressure accounting for typical daily and seasonal fluctuations in this area is 55 psi. The equation that describes the water supply available for a fire sprinkler system would be: There are two ways to use this formula. One would be to assume two different values for Q, calculate P and then draw a graph on log 1.85 paper. Any fire sprinkler system demand falling on or below the line on this graph would be acceptable in accordance with NFPA 13 to work with this water supply. In this case, the two easiest flows to pick for Q would be 0 and 1300 gpm. When Q = 0, P is simply 55 psi. When Q = 1300 gpm, P = 35 psi. These two points can be plotted on log 1.85 paper as shown in Figure A The second way to use this formula would be to calculate the fire protection system and determine the flow necessary to make the system work. Plug this flow into the formula above and see what the available pressure from the water supply will be at that flow. For example, if a sprinkler system connected to this water supply had a demand of 580 gpm, the available pressure from the water supply would be: P = (-20)(0.225) 55 P = 50.5 psi So, as long as the sprinkler system has a pressure demand less than or equal to 50.5 psi, it will work with this water supply. Sprinkler system demand can be anywhere in shaded region A tiff Figure A Available Water Supply Curve for Example in Section A Figure Page 51 of 80

52 9 of 48 7/1/2016 1:49 PM Additional Proposed Changes File Name Description Approved Safety_Margin_Proposal- NFPA_24.docx This is what the proposal will look like if both PI's are accepted. Note that this also has the formulas and figures that I could not figure out how to get into Terra View. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input This is the annex companion to the adjustment issues proposed for the body of the standard. The examples are helpful in explaining how to perform the calculations and use the formula. Related Public Inputs for This Document Related Input Public Input No. 11-NFPA [New Section after 5.1.2] Relationship Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: Kenneth Isman Organization: University of Maryland Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Thu May 26 11:53:35 EDT 2016 Page 52 of 80

53 Insert new sections as follows: Water Supply Adjustment Proposals Put Together Where a waterflow test was conducted, the volume and pressure available for use for a fire protection system shall be determined from either or * Knowledge of the water supply and engineering judgment taking into account reasonable daily and seasonal fluctuations not extreme conditions * Use of the following formula: P Q Q R 1.85 PR PS PL P = The pressure available from the water supply to use for a fire protection system that will be calculated for a given flow (Q) Q = The flow that will be used to calculate the available pressure from the water supply. PR = The residual pressure measured during the waterflow test while the flow QR was discharging from the water supply. PS = The static pressure measured during the waterflow test. QR = The flow discharging from the water supply when PR was measured. PL = The expected low static pressure at the location of the test results accounting for daily and seasonal fluctuations (not extreme conditions) obtained from the water utility. Where the water authority does not provide PL, see Where the water authority does not provide a value for PL, the value of PL shall be calculated from the following formula: PL = PS 10 psi A An adjustment to the waterflow test data to account for the following should be made, as appropriate: (1) Daily and seasonal fluctuations (2) Possible interruption by flood or ice conditions (3) Large simultaneous industrial use (4) Future demand on the water supply system (5) Other conditions that could affect the water supply Page 53 of 80

54 A The purpose of the adjustment is to take into account reasonable daily and seasonal variations in the water supply, which are easily predicted and tracked by a water utility. It is not the intent to use this section to account for unusual conditions such as 100 year droughts or water main breaks. These unusual conditions are handled through the Impairment Procedures of NFPA 25 and should not be considered when determining the ability of a water supply to meet the demand of a fire protection system under more normal circumstances. A Consider the following example. A waterflow test is conducted at a location where a city water main is going to be tapped for a new sprinkler system. During the test, the static pressure is measured at 70 psi, the residual pressure is measured at 50 psi while 1300 gpm was discharging from a nearby hydrant. The water utility is contacted and they indicate that a reasonable low static pressure accounting for typical daily and seasonal fluctuations in this area is 55 psi. The equation that describes the water supply available for a fire sprinkler system would be: P Q There are two ways to use this formula. One would be to assume two different values for Q, calculate P and then draw a graph on log 1.85 paper. Any fire sprinkler system demand falling on or below the line on this graph would be acceptable in accordance with NFPA 13 to work with this water supply. In this case, the two easiest flows to pick for Q would be 0 and 1300 gpm. When Q = 0, P is simply 55 psi. When Q = 1300 gpm, P = 35 psi. These two points can be plotted on log 1.85 paper as shown in Figure A The second way to use this formula would be to calculate the fire protection system and determine the flow necessary to make the system work. Plug this flow into the formula above and see what the available pressure from the water supply will be at that flow. For example, if a sprinkler system connected to this water supply had a demand of 580 gpm, the available pressure from the water supply would be: P P = (-20)(0.225) + 55 P = 50.5 psi So, as long as the sprinkler system has a pressure demand less than or equal to 50.5 psi, it will work with this water supply. Page 54 of 80

55 Sprinkler system demand can be anywhere in shaded region Figure A Available Water Supply Curve for Example in Section A Page 55 of 80

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