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1 Agenda NFPA Technical Committee on Manufactured Housing Fall 2012 Report on Comments Tuesday, April 10, 2012 from Noon to 5:00 PM Wednesday, April 11, 2012 from 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM (CDT) Hilton Garden Inn Minneapolis Downtown th Avenue South Minneapolis, MN (Optional Microsoft Live Meeting/Teleconference) 1. Call to order Noon, April 10 J. Lake. 2. Self-introduction of members and guests, see page Approval of July 27-28, 2011 meeting minutes, see page Chair s report J. Lake. 5. Staff liaison s report T. Golinveaux 6. NFPA 225 comments, see page NFPA 501 comments, see page NFPA 501A comments, see page Other business. 10. Next meeting F2016 First Draft Meeting (New Process). 11. Adjourn by 5:00 PM on Wednesday, April 11, If you are participating via Microsoft Live Meeting, here is the web address to join the Live Meeting: Here is the Telephone Conference Information: Toll-free: Participant Code: Page 1 of 13

2 Address List No Phone Manufactured Housing 03/20/2012 Tracy L. Golinveaux John Lake Chair City of Gainesville 306 NE 6th Avenue, Building B PO Box 490, Station 9 Gainesville, FL E 11/2/2006 Fred Benn Advanced Automatic Sprinkler, Inc San Ramon Valley Boulevard San Ramon, CA National Fire Sprinkler Association Alternate: Joshua Jones M 11/2/2006 Bill Broecker Foremost Insurance Company PO Box 2450 Grand Rapids, MI I 11/2/2006 David G. Bueche Hoover Treated Wood Products West Asbury Circle Lakewood, CO M 8/9/2011 Ronald A. Crawford No-Burn, Inc High Street, Suite 211 Wadsworth, OH M 10/27/2009 Stanley C. Harbuck School of Building Inspection PO Box 1643 Salt Lake City, UT American Public Health Association Alternate: Jake Pauls C 11/2/2006 Thomas L. Harman University of Houston-Clear Lake 2700 Bay Area Blvd., Mail Stop 161 Houston, TX SE 11/2/2006 Christopher P. Jones Christopher P. Jones & Associates 5525 Jomali Drive Durham, NC FEMA/Mitigation Division Alternate: David K. Low E 11/2/2006 David Lockhart Lockhart Engineering & Development, Inc North Hubert Avenue Tampa, FL SE 8/2/2010 John V. Loscheider Loscheider Engineering Company 1618 Kennewick Avenue, NE PO Box 2440 Renton, WA Building Seismic Safety Council/Code Resource Support Committee U 11/2/2006 Michael Lubliner Washington State University Extension Energy Program 905 Plum Street SE, Bldg. 3 Box Olympia, WA Northwest Energy Efficiency Alliance U 11/2/2006 Ty J. Maltbie Viega LLC 2211 Viega Avenue McPherson, KS M 10/20/2010 Page 2 of 13 1

3 Address List No Phone Manufactured Housing 03/20/2012 Tracy L. Golinveaux Robert A. McCullough E 11/2/ Clay Street Tuckerton, NJ International Association of Electrical Inspectors Alternate: Ron B. Chilton Dennis L. Pitts American Wood Council 1721 West Plano Parkway, #224 Plano, TX American Forest & Paper Association M 11/2/2006 Bruce J. Swiecicki National Propane Gas Association South LaGrange Road, Suite 353 Frankfort, IL IM 3/4/2008 Larry J. Tanner Texas Tech University Wind Science & Engineering Research Center PO Box Lubbock, TX RT 11/2/2006 Randy E. Vogt Minnesota Department of Labor & Industry Building Codes & Standards Unit Construction Codes & Licensing Division 443 Lafayette Road North St. Paul, MN E 11/2/2006 Ron B. Chilton Alternate North Carolina Department of Insurance Office of State Fire Marshal 1202 Mail Service Center Raleigh, NC International Association of Electrical Inspectors : Robert A. McCullough E 03/05/2012 Joshua Jones Alternate Fire Protection Industries (The Moran Group) 115A Aster Drive Harrisburg, PA : Fred Benn M 3/2/2010 David K. Low Alternate D. K. Low & Associates Walnut Hill Drive Rockville, VA FEMA/Mitigation Division : Christopher P. Jones E 11/2/2006 Jake Pauls Alternate Jake Pauls Consulting Services in Building Use & Safety Winexburg Manor Drive, Suite 201 Silver Spring, MD American Public Health Association : Stanley C. Harbuck C 11/2/2006 Lawrence A. McKenna, Jr. Nonvoting Member US Department of Homeland Security US Fire Administration South Seton Avenue Emmitsburg, MD Alternate: M. Larry Maruskin C 7/23/2008 Richard A. Mendlen E 11/2/2006 Nonvoting Member US Department of Housing & Urban Development Manufactured Housing & Standards 451 7th Street SW, Room 9164 Washington, DC M. Larry Maruskin Alt. to Nonvoting Member US Department of Homeland Security US Fire Administration South Seton Avenue Emmitsburg, MD : Lawrence A. McKenna, Jr. C 11/2/2006 Page 3 of 13 2

4 Address List No Phone Manufactured Housing 03/20/2012 Tracy L. Golinveaux Tracy L. Golinveaux Staff Liaison National Fire Protection Association 1 Batterymarch Park Quincy, MA /04/2010 Page 4 of 13 3

National Fire Protection Association 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471 Phone: 617-770-3000 Fax: 617-770-0700 www.nfpa.

5 National Fire Protection Association 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA Phone: Fax: NFPA Technical Committee on Manufactured Housing FALL 2012 ROP MEETING MINUTES July 27-28, 2011 Lake Buena Vista, FL 1. Call to Order. The meeting of the Technical Committee on Manufactured Housing was called to order on July 27, 2011 at 1:00pm. 2. Introduction of Committee Members and Guests. Self introductions of members and guests were completed. Those present included: TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT NAME Lake, John, Chair Golinveaux, Tracy, Staff Liaison Goodwin, Robert, Harbuck, Stanley, Jones, Joshua, Alternate to F. Benn McCullough, Robert, Pitts, Dennis, Swiecicki, Bruce, Tanner, Larry, Vogt, Randy, REPRESENTING City of Gainesville National Fire Protection Association Kentucky State Fire Marshal s Office School of Building Inspection Rep. American Public Health Association Fire Protection Industry Rep. National Fire Sprinkler Association Rep. International Association of Electrical Inspectors American Wood Council Rep. American Forest & Paper Association National Propane Gas Association Texas Tech University Minnesota Department of Labor & Industry GUESTS NAME Spencer, Alden Solomon, Robert REPRESENTING Tyco Fire Protection Products NFPA Page 1 of 3 Page 5 of 13

6 TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS NOT PRESENT NAME Bosch, Christopher, Broecker, Bill, Crawford, Ronald, Harman, Thomas, Jones, Christopher, Lockhart, David, Loscheider, John, Low, David, Alternate to C. Jones Lubliner, Michael, Maltbie, Ty, REPRESENTING City of Tracy Fire Department Rep. International Association of Fire Chiefs Foremost Insurance Company No-Burn, Inc. University of Houston-Clear Lake Christopher P. Jones & Associates Rep. FEMA/Mitigation Division Lockhart Engineering & Development, Inc. Loscheider Engineering Company Rep. Building Seismic Safety Council/Code Resource Support Committee D.K. Low & Associates Rep. FEMA/Mitigation Division Washington State University Rep. Northwest Energy Efficiency Alliance Viega LLC 3. Chair s Report. The chair welcomed and thanked the committee members present for attending and indicated the purpose of the meeting was to prepare the Reports on Proposals for the Fall 2012 revision cycle documents. 4. Staff Liaison s Report Staff briefly reviewed the purpose of the meeting and NFPA procedures. By the end of the meeting, an action would be completed for each of the public proposals that were received. The committee would also have the opportunity to develop any committee proposals to address any topics or issues related to the standards under revision. Staff reviewed the timelines for processing documents (NFPA 501, 501A, and 225) for the F2012 cycle. Process Step Date Proposal Closing May 23, 2011 ROP Meeting July 13, 2011 ROP Published December 23, 2011 Comment Closing March 2, 2012 ROC Published August 24, 2012 NITMAM Closing October 5, Approval of Minutes. The minutes of the April 17, 2008 meeting were approved as submitted. Page 2 of 3 Page 6 of 13

7 6. HUD Advisory Committee Update R. Solomon gave the committee an update on the HUD Advisory Committee s recent activities and gave a brief history of the relationship between HUD and the NFPA committee. 7. NFPA 501 Proposals The committee acted on the public proposals and created committee proposals. See the ROP letter ballot for the committee actions. 8. NFPA 501A Proposals The committee acted on the public proposals and created committee proposals. See the ROP letter ballot for the committee actions. 9. NFPA 225 Proposals The committee acted on the public proposals and created committee proposals. See the ROP letter ballot for the committee actions. 10. Next Meeting Date The next meeting date will be April 2012 in Minneapolis. 11. Adjournment The meeting was adjourned at 2:00 pm on July 28 th. Minutes prepared by: Tracy Golinveaux, Staff Liaison Page 3 of 3 Page 7 of 13

8 Report on Comments November 2012 NFPA Log #1 Marcelo M. Hirschler, GBH International Standards Update for the newly referenced standard ASTM E84 Printed on 3/20/ Page 8 of 13

9 Report on Comments November 2012 NFPA Log #4 Marcelo M. Hirschler, GBH International Revise text to as follows: Kitchen cabinet doors, countertops, backsplashes, exposed bottoms, and end panels, except for cabinet rails, stiles, mullions, and top strips, shall exhibit a flame spread index not exceeding 50. The smoke developed index shall not be limited. Finished surfaces of materials on surfaces of plastic bathtubs, shower units, and tub or shower doors shall exhibit a flame spread index not exceeding 200. The smoke developed index shall not be limited. The flame spread index and the smoke developed index of backsplashes not exceeding 6 in. (152 mm) in height shall not be limited. Interior trim materials 2 in. (50 mm) or less in width shall not be limited in flame spread index or smoke developed index, provided that all joints are completely supported by structural framing members or by materials exhibiting a flame spread index not exceeding 25. Backsplashes not exceeding 6 in. (152 mm) in height, provided that all joints are completely supported by a framing member, shall not be limited in flame spread index or smoke developed index. Sealants used in widths of 2 in. (50 mm) or less shall not be limited in flame spread index or smoke developed index. The text of NFPA 501 in the edition prior to 2010 (namely 2005) read as follows for this section: Finished surfaces of plastic bathtubs, shower units, and tub or shower doors shall have a flame spread index not exceeding 200. The technical committee accepted my proposal (in the 2008 cycle) and that is where I made the mistake of changing the language to require an FSI of 50 instead of 200. That proposal (and the entire section) got wiped out because of the NITMAM. I am now reinstating the old section with clarification of the fact that smoke developed index is not required and with language consistent with the remainder of the standard. This proposal/comment does not delete or replace text but simply adds text that was in place before Log #1 Kenneth E. Isman, National Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc Change When to Where and delete NFPA 13D, or from Section so that the section reads, Where water mist systems are installed, the systems shall be designed, installed and tested in accordance with NFPA 750,. The reference to NFPA 13D is completely inappropriate. Water mist nozzles are not residential sprinklers and should not be installed in accordance with NFPA 13D. The original prototype residential sprinkler was similar to a water mist device in concept, but could not pass the tests developed as a part of the Los Angeles Fire Tests due to ventilation conditions in some of the fires. A residential sprinkler needed to be developed that provided some medium size water droplets to penetrate the fire plume and pre-wet adjacent combustibles. UL standard 1626 currently forces a manufacturer to develop a product that will closely perform to the prototype that did pass the Los Angeles tests through a combination of water distribution tests and fire tests. If a water mist nozzle passes the fire tests associated with UL 1626, it still does not make the nozzle comparable to a residential sprinkler since it has not passed the water distribution tests and it may not provide fire control or suppression during ventilated fires. IF NFPA 750 wants to address water mist systems for one and two family dwellings, and if AHJ s want to agree that water mist systems can be considered equivalent to sprinkler systems, then we certainly won t disagree with their use. But to use water mist nozzles in accordance with NFPA 13D is completely inappropriate. Printed on 3/20/ Page 9 of 13

10 Report on Comments November 2012 NFPA Log #2 John F. Bender, Underwriters Laboratories Inc Revise text to read as follows: Underwriters Laboratories of Canada, 7 Crouse Underwriters Road, Toronto, ONntario M1R 3A9, Canada. CAN/ULC-S102.2-M88 10 Surface Burning Characteristics of Flooring, Floor Coverings, and Miscellaneous Materials and Assemblies, Update CAN/ULC address to current address, and update referenced standard to most current standard number, title and edition Log #5 Marcelo M. Hirschler, GBH International Revise text to read as follows: ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700,West Conshohocken, PA ASTM D 4444,, ASTM D 4635,, 2008a. ASTM E 84,, b. ASTM E 96/E96M,, ASTM E 119,, b. ASTM E 136,, ASTM E 162,, 2011a Standards update - Printed on 3/20/ Page 10 of 13

11 Report on Comments November 2012 NFPA Log #3 John F. Bender, Underwriters Laboratories Inc Revise text to read as follows: Underwriters Laboratories Inc., 333 Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL , ANSI/UL 94,, 1996, Revised ANSI/UL 103,, ANSI/UL 109,, , Revised ANSI/UL 127,, ANSI/UL 174,, 2004, Revised ANSI/UL 181,, 2005, Revised ANSI/UL 181A,, 2005, Revised ANSI/UL 181B,, 2005, Revised ANSI/UL 217,, 2006, Revised ANSI/UL 268,, ANSI/UL 307A,, 2009, Revised UL 307B,, 2006, Revised ANSI/UL 441,, ANSI/UL 569,, 1995, Revised ANSI/UL 723,, 2008, Revised ANSI/UL 737,, 2007, Revised ANSI/UL 923,, 2008, Revised ANSI/UL 1042,, 2009, Revised ANSI/UL 1482,, ANSI/UL 1971,, 2002, Revised ANSI/UL 1995,, 2005, Revised ANSI/UL 2021,, 1997, Revised Add ANSI approval designation to ANSI/UL 2021 and update referenced standards to most current edition. Printed on 3/20/ Page 11 of 13

12 Report on Comments November A- Log #1 NFPA 501A John F. Bender, Underwriters Laboratories Inc. 501A-7 Revise text to read as follows: Underwriters Laboratories Inc., 333 Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL ANSI/UL 80,, , 2007, Revised UL Subject 2258, ANSI/UL 142,, 2006, Revised Add ANSI approval designation to ANSI/UL 80 and update (correct) the date of the standard to the most current edition. Add reference to UL Subject 2258 and ANSI/UL 142 as these aboveground tanks are suitable for inside and outside use as referenced by NFPA 31. If appropriate by TC action, add these references to Section to update the standard to reference other acceptable tanks. 501A- Log #2 Doug Hohbein, Northcentral Regional Fire Code Development Committee 501A-29 Revise text to read as follows: Change Section to read Incinerators, Fireplaces and Rubbish Burning within Wildland/Urban Interface Areas Change to renumber to , renumber to Temporary or permanent incinerators, outdoor fireplaces, barbecues, and grills shall not be built, installed, or maintained in hazardous fire areas without prior approval of the AHJ. Add new text to read as follows: Openings in incinerators, outdoor fireplaces, barbecues, and grills shall be provided with an approved spark arrester, screen, or door. (1144: ) The intent of the original proposal was to require the requirements only within a wildland/urban interface area. Currently there are no provisions on spark arrestors or other spark producing operations. The text has been extracted from 1144 with some changes. 501A- Log #4 Bill Galloway, Southern Regional Fire Code Development Committee 501A-36 Add a new section to read as follows: Where provided public fire service hydrants shall be installed to meet the requirements of NFPA 1, Fire Code Annex E Fire Hydrant Location and Distribution. The committee did not include the proposed because they stated NFPA 1 does not address the subject. NFPA 1 does address fire hydrant location and distribution in Annex E which is an adoptable annex which permits it to be adopted and is written in code language. Printed on 3/20/ Page 12 of 13

13 Report on Comments November A- Log #3 NFPA 501A Doug Hohbein, Northcentral Regional Fire Code Development Committee 501A-39 Add new Within Wildland/Urban Interface Areas permanently located mobile and manufactured homes with an open space beneath shall have a skirt of noncombustible material. Add new Any enclosed space beneath the mobile or manufactured home shall be vented according to (1144:5.9.2) Add new Vents shall be screened with a corrosion-resistant, noncombustible wire mesh with the mesh opening not to exceed nominal ¼ in. (6.3 mm) in size. (1144:5.2.2) The proposed language adds text dealing with enclosed spaces under the home and how to protect it from brands from fires within the wildland/urban interface area. 501A- Log #5 Bill Galloway, Southern Regional Fire Code Development Committee 501A-44 Revise text to read as follows: Community Buildings The provisions of NFPA 101, Life Safety Code, regarding the construction, protection, and occupancy features of community buildings shall be followed, as applicable, to minimize danger to life from fire, smoke, or panic. Community buildings shall comply with the provisions of NFPA 101, Special attention shall be given to the number, size, and arrangement of exit facilities in community buildings used in places of public assembly. Community buildings shall comply with NFPA 1,. The current language is not enforceable as it provides no guidance on most of the provisions for fire and life safety that is a minimum level of protection in NFPA documents. The inclusion of specific sections of NFPA 101, such as construction, protection, and occupancy could be construed to mean that other provisions of NFPA 101 should not be applicable. This does not appear to be the intent. The current language in does not provide any specific guidance as to what special attention is. The manual of style does not permit unenforceable language to be in the standard which special attention is classified as unenforceable. NFPA 1 is specifically added as a reference in this section as there are numerous provisions in NFPA 1 specifically applicable to community buildings. Printed on 3/20/ Page 13 of 13

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National Fire Protection Association 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471 Phone: 617-770-3000 Fax: 617-770-0700 www.nfpa.org M E M O R A N D U M TO: FROM: NFPA Technical Committee on Merchant Vessels